Inference by Turing Post
"The numbers of people who are going to be able to become AI builders is going to explode. It's gonna go from maybe a few hundred thousands or low millions… to maybe tens of millions, fifties of millions, maybe a hundred million at some point." Clément Delangue, co-founder and CEO of Hugging Face, believes we are entering a new phase of AI – one where building models, fine-tuning systems, running local AI, and even experimenting with robotics may no longer be limited to a small technical elite. His passion for open source is very contagious! I enjoyed chatting with him about: Why the next wave of AI builders won't be traditional engineers – and how that could push the field beyond slop toward biology, medicine, and climate What open source actually solves in cybersecurity – and why "safety" is often a cover story for business strategy Why lobbying against open source in the US would be a strategic mistake that could cost the country its AI leadership Why comparing open weights to closed APIs is irrelevant and why benchmarks miss what really matters What Hugging Face is learning as agents become a new kind of user How LeRobot and Reachy Mini are turning AI into something people lile Why training, fine-tuning, and post-training on your own data are becoming the real differentiators as building apps gets trivial What three months of paternity leave taught Clem We also talk about fear-based AI marketing, how public perception shifts the moment people build with AI, what's missing in robotics datasets, and why Clem keeps coming back to Camus' Sisyphus as a metaphor for being a founder right now A conversation about agency, openness, and what it means to democratize AI before it gets locked down. Watch it. *Chapters:* 00:00 AI Builders Are About to Explode 00:35 Why Coding Agents Still Struggle with AI 02:23 100 Million AI Builders 03:30 Non-Technical People Entering AI 05:15 How Building AI Can Change Public Perception 06:22 Who Can Make AI More Open? 08:02 Fear-Based Marketing in AI 09:33 Open Source, Cybersecurity, and Risk 12:31 Why Companies Don’t Open Source 14:30 Lobbying Against Open Source 17:24 What Changed During Paternity Leave 19:11 Making Hugging Face Agent-Native 21:00 Hugging Face Robotics and LeRobot 23:01 Local AI, Open Models, and the Future *Did you like the episode? Do the following:* 📌 Subscribe here and here (https://www.turingpost.com/subscribe) for more conversations with the builders shaping real-world AI. 💬 Leave a comment 👍 Like it 🫶 Thank you for watching and sharing! *Guest:* Clément Delangue, co-founder & CEO of Hugging Face https://x.com/ClementDelangue https://www.linkedin.com/in/clementdelangue https://huggingface.co/clem https://huggingface.co/ *Projects discussed:* ML Intern LeRobot SO-101 / LeRobot docs 📰 Want the transcript and edited version? Subscribe to Turing Post: https://www.turingpost.com/subscribe Turing Post is a newsletter about AI’s past, present, and future. Publisher Ksenia Se explores how intelligent systems are built – and how they’re changing how we think, work, and live. Follow us - Ksenia and Turing Post: https://x.com/TheTuringPost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ksenia-se https://huggingface.co/Kseniase #HuggingFace #ClemDelangue #OpenSourceAI #LocalAI #AIAgents #RoboticsAI #LeRobot #MLIntern #AIBuilders #FutureOfAI
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