Being Someone Becoming Someone Who Can Be - Michael Sartori

Being Someone Becoming Someone Who Can Be - Michael Sartori

Exploring the nature of culture, institutions, and the metaphor of tents and temples in shaping human life and society. The conversation gets into how we preserve core values, the fragility of modern infrastructure, and the spiritual significance of community and growth. In this engaging conversation, Ian and Michael explore the deep metaphors of tents and temples, the nature of faith, the importance of relational knowledge, and the lessons from biblical stories like Exodus and Babel. They discuss how these themes relate to culture, spirituality, fatherhood, and the development of a resilient, adaptive life philosophy.Buy Michael's books here: https://sites.google.com/view/michael-sartori-books [https://sites.google.com/view/michael-sartori-books]

Connecting to the Other through Language - Al Ohm

In this insightful conversation, Al and Ian explore the depths of language, culture, and self-discovery. They discuss the importance of multilingualism, the nuances of translating and understanding sacred texts, and the journey of self-awareness through philosophical and spiritual traditions. This conversation explores identity, community, spirituality, and the search for authentic self-understanding through philosophical and religious perspectives. It emphasizes the importance of love, humility, and continuous practice in personal growth.

The Process of Learning to Articulate Yourself - Analyzing the Jordan Peterson Genesis Lectures (1)

This episode explores Jordan Peterson's Genesis Lectures, delving into themes of individual responsibility, the nature of the divine, and the power of stories and myths in understanding human existence. The conversation covers the relationship between the state and the individual, the role of mystics and artists, and the significance of speech and action in shaping reality.;

Being Good is Better Than Appearing Good

Ian Campbell and James Wilkins discuss Ezekiel 13, analyzing both trust and distrust of institutions in the modern culture.

Staying Human within a Church System - Aaron Parker

In this raw, wide-ranging conversation, Aaron Parker (worship leader, musician, and Morning Talk Show host) opens up about his journey out of shame-based, institutional faith and into a more human, relational Christianity. Aaron's music: https://aaronparkersongs.bandcamp.com/album/o-candyland00:00 – Greeting and setting the tone 00:13 – Aaron: “What brought you to Christ?” – His anti-institutional mindset, Baptist roots, and the crisis that made faith feel real at ~37 02:56 – Ian’s story: Re-encountering Jesus after destructive teen years via Jordan Peterson 04:26 – Shared church-kid childhoods, family in ministry, and early longing for confirmation =08:31 – Ivan Illich’s “church as she” vs. “church as it,” scarcity mentality, and total depravity theology 11:07 – “Useful but untrue” theology (Derek Sivers / Chris Williamson) and manipulative evangelism tactics 13:34 – Why gospel-as-marketing feels rotten; the Kingdom isn’t built on tricks 15:10 – No villains — even the kind people delivering harmful messages were acting in love 21:41 – Institutions exist because of people (Paul Allen conversation); the Reformation tension 23:49 – Are all institutions inherently demonic? The strong claim and why Ian both questions and agrees 25:58 – Self-negation’s appeal in large groups; the Reformation’s original heart 30:48 – Why size matters: Dunbar’s number, abstractions, and the tweet that started this talk 33:21 – Schools and churches turn people into abstractions; ideologies thrive when we stop seeing faces 36:01 – Ideologies as pathogens; healthy cultures vs. constant prescriptions 37:26 – Owen Barfield, evolution of consciousness, and why we experience institutions differently than our ancestors 42:55 – Modern individuality as aesthetic; collective identity through the lens of self 45:01 – Abstraction = idolatry; institutions claiming to be the “end” instead of a trellis 48:11 – Saving the Appearances and Barfield’s study in idolatry 50:25 – Institutions substituting the original spirit (Calvary Chapel story, Jesus Revolution, ordination reading lists) 53:45 – Capturing lightning in a bottle; why churches cling to past revival models 56:02 – Healthy leadership must imagine decline; endless growth mindset corrupts faith 57:21 – Real-world examples: Ravi Zacharias and church-camp cover-ups 01:00:49 – The 99 vs. the 1 — Christ rejects cost-benefit analysis 01:01:38 – An institution is only as great as how it treats the least of its members 01:03:12 – Narratives can’t permanently house spirits; parables stay alive 01:06:08 – Othering, politics, and locating the devil in the “other team” 01:09:03 – The spirit behind actions (immigration/deportation example) — efficiency vs. sorrow 01:11:29 – Institutions cannot be kind; only humans in the Spirit can (Good Samaritan) 01:14:20 – Subjectivism + Scientism = culture war children of the Enlightenment; idealism as third way 01:16:53 – Protesting as prayer to an institution that can never be a person 01:18:38 – We are the temple; building tabernacles to trap the Spirit is the wrong impulse 01:20:35 – Jesus rejected earthly power and chose mercy to the point of death 01:21:44 – Church “as she” in daily life: parenting as microcosm of authority 01:22:23 – Aaron’s Enneagram-8 son and learning not to assert will as “father suit” 01:25:19 – Authenticity over performance; liturgy as helpful structure 01:28:51 – Drop the institutional/ideology suit — be present 01:30:55 – Judging the “troublemaker” vs. seeing the person right in front of you 01:35:34 – Allow yourself to feel the sorrow of the role (dad suit + weeping) 01:37:23 – Jesus wept even when He knew He was about to raise Lazarus 01:39:40 – Joe Hudson’s question: “If you couldn’t judge this person, what would you have to feel?” 01:40:08 – Outro, plugs, and final encouragement