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What began as a family quarrel within socialism would become a permanent schism that would shape every revolution that followed. When sailors at Kronstadt rose to demand “All power to the soviets, not the parties,” they believed they were defending the true legacy of 1917. Instead, they were crushed by the Red Army on the frozen ice of the Gulf of Finland, exactly fifty years after the Paris Commune had first been declared. For many revolutionaries watching in horror, Kronstadt marked the moment when the promise of socialism hardened into one-party rule. This episode traces the long road to that rupture. From the ashes of the Paris Commune to the collapse of the First International, socialism’s first generation wrestled with a question that would define the modern left: Can the state be used to liberate the working class? Or must it be abolished altogether? Through the ideas and conflicts of Karl Marx and Mikhail Bakunin, and through the lived experiences of figures like Louise Michel, Emma Goldman, and Alexander Berkman, we follow how a shared revolutionary tradition fractured into two opposing visions. Marx and his allies argued that capitalism’s centralized power could only be defeated by an organized, disciplined workers’ movement capable of seizing the state and transforming it from within. Bakunin and the anarchists insisted that power itself was the enemy—that any revolutionary state would inevitably reproduce domination, hierarchy, and terror. These disagreements, once theoretical, were forged into doctrine by defeat, exile, and bloodshed. From The Hague Congress of 1872 to the repression of Kronstadt in 1921, and from the Bolshevik victory in Petrograd to the anarchist collectives of Spain, this episode follows the hardening of that divide and the human costs on both sides. The question of the state was never settled. But its consequences would carry across centuries and continents. This is Season One—The Origins of Socialism: Paris and the Making of Modern Revolution Next: Season Two—The Age of Anarchism: Chicago and the American Labor Revolt Written and produced by Matt Payne. Original Musical score by Ian Payne. Support, Subscribe, Read on Substack: https://ismhistorypodcast.substack.com/ [https://ismhistorypodcast.substack.com/] Original Musical Compositions by Ian Payne: https://www.jamesianpayne.com/ [https://www.jamesianpayne.com/] Support the Show: PayPal [https://www.paypal.com/donate/?business=CLKDEFJA5MR5U&no_recurring=0¤cy_code=USD] Contact: ismhistorypodcast@gmail.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit ismhistorypodcast.substack.com [https://ismhistorypodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]
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