Jules Terpak
Sat down with Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, to discuss all things artificial intelligence. Few have been as embedded in AI's modern era, as he co-founded both DeepMind in 2010 (acquired by Google in 2014) and Inflection AI in 2022. So, down the rabbit hole we go. Chapters 0:00 - If an AI-focused career path was clear to him 2:11 - The relationship between Microsoft and OpenAI 4:51 - AI research labs vs AI companies 7:16 - Elaborating on response to protestors 9:22 - AI’s use in the government 15:24 - The relationship between tech and government leaders 17:25 - The pros and cons of open-source models 22:48 - Will AI be “winner takes all” 26:08 - Gatekeeping 27:28 - Optimism and pessimism as limiting biases 30:31 - How our time online may change 33:29 - Are AI companions helping or hurting current human voids 38:21 - Advising young people’s emotional relationship with AI 41:56 - How human-to-human interaction may change 46:16 - How the average person can use the “Think deeper” feature 48:05 - What you shouldn’t tell your AI 49:32 - AI’s social intelligence 50:52 - The future of opting in and out of your relationship with AI 54:43 - The potential of humans not needing to “work” 59:23 - Future income, incentives, and payment structures 1:03:22 - What you should know about containment 1:06:14 - Outro You can also find Mustafa on Twitter: https://x.com/mustafasuleyman [https://x.com/mustafasuleyman] Intro animation by Black Book Studio: https://www.blackbook.studio/ You can also find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julesterpak Twitter: https://twitter.com/julesterpak TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@julesterpak Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/julesterpak/ Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/julesterpak Substack: https://www.julesterpak.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/user/31cv2j5da4stkrv6mysp5xfetb3m Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jules-terpak/id1772071442 You can find "Fishbowl with Jules Terpak" on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fishbowlpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fishbowlpod Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fishbowlpod/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4WkJ18YFr9s8OSXGIx1fM9 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fishbowl-with-jules-terpak/id1787042781 Other: https://discord.gg/8ueURBRvc7 My production gear: https://amzn.to/3OFWWJv Business inquiries: julesterpak@gmail.com ____________________ Key terms from “The Coming Wave” → Can't fit in the character count, so pause on-screen visual at 27:33 The 10 steps toward containment → Can't fit in the character count, so pause on-screen visual at 1:03:57
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