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If you Googled something terrifying about your baby and ended up here, you're in the right place. This week Jess and Laura are talking about one of the most misunderstood and underdiagnosed presentations of OCD — perinatal OCD. Whether you're pregnant, postpartum, or supporting someone who is, this one's for you. We get into why OCD loves to latch onto the thing you love most, what's actually happening in your brain and body during the perinatal period, and why so many people suffer in silence. We talk about that fear directly, and what advocating for you actually looks like. From the most common perinatal presentations to what therapy actually looks like in this season of life — including why regulation comes before challenging OCD — this episode covers the full picture. We also talk maternity leave grief, secure attachment, parenting values, and we close with a note from someone who has been where you might be right now, and come out the other side. You are not a bad parent. Your thoughts are not your character. And you are not alone in this. Podcast by Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Time stamps 00:36 Shout out to followers 01:10 Things you might have Googled with perinatal OCD 02:26 Introductions and shout out to Josh Fletcher 09:48 Introduction to perinatal OCD 10:44 Brain Spam 13:30 Prioproceptive input 15:50 Matrescence and mental health 20:00 Increased responsibility and vulnerability to OCD 22:05 Hormone shifts and OCD 23:52 Why OCD latches to the baby 24:30 Traumatic births and what you expect to feel 26:50 Birth planning and expectations 29:40 Preparing for pregnancy with OCD 31:30 Perinatal mental health team involvement 23:45 Building a village 36:07 Main OCD presentations in OCD 38:30 How common these intrusive thoughts are 39:20 What makes it OCD 42:30 Why we need more awareness of this 44:00 What if they report things to social services? 46:00 How we can advocate for you 48:00 What risk do we check more? 49:33 Options for support 50:55 Therapy for perinatal OCD; how it looks 52:00 Regulation before challenging OCD 54:00 Grieving maternity leave ideas and living like you value 58:21 Secure attachments and OCD 1:01:50 Prioritising parenting values 1:04:03 Responsive self-care lists 1:04:40 A note from someone who is recovered from perinatal OCD 1:05:23 Questions from the listeners 1:08:25 Key takeaways for perinatal OCD 1:09:00 Helpful resources and support websites 1:10:24 Exposure Lab 1:12:48 Weekly Wins Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd and her perinatal page @jess_the_therapy_mum Please check out our privacy policy https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to. Disclaimer This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support. Resources mentioned: Jess’ perinatal mental health Instagram: @jess_the_therapy_mum Birth Rights: Birthrights - your human rights during pregnancy and maternity care [https://birthrights.org.uk/] OCDUK: OCD-UK | A national OCD charity, run by, and for people with lived experience of OCD [https://www.ocduk.org/] IOCDF Perinatal OCD Resource Centre: Perinatal OCD Resource Center To Help People Find Relief [https://iocdf.org/perinatal-ocd/] Maternal OCD UK: Welcome to Maternal OCD [https://maternalocd.org/] Postpartum Support International: Postpartum Support International - PSI [https://postpartum.net/] The Breastfeeding Network (medication guidance): Drugs in Breastmilk factsheets - The Breastfeeding Network [https://www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/drugs-factsheets/]
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