Building Trust Through Turnaround: Christina Gibson on Systems, Courage, & Community Voice

Spencer Byrd on Strategic Planning, CTE Expansion, and Building Community Trust

In this episode of the Lebra Podcast, host Nate Lichte sits down with Spencer Byrd, Superintendent of Cheboygan Area Schools, to discuss leadership, rural education, and the importance of building school systems that students genuinely enjoy being part of. Drawing on more than 35 years in education, Spencer reflects on his journey from teacher and coach in Illinois to superintendent in Northern Michigan. Along the way, he shares how athletics, mentorship, and meaningful relationships with teachers shaped his own path into leadership and continue to influence how he leads today. The conversation explores the unique realities of leading a rural district in Northern Michigan, including seasonal economies, declining enrollment, staffing shortages, and the increasing impact of online learning. Spencer explains why listening tours were critical during his first year in Cheboygan and how intentional community engagement helped shape a strategic plan that now guides every major district decision. Nate and Spencer also dive into Cheboygan’s growing focus on Career and Technical Education (CTE), early middle college opportunities, and building pathways that align with the district’s blue-collar community roots. Spencer shares how the district is expanding middle school CTE programming, creating workforce-ready experiences, and helping first-generation college students access affordable postsecondary opportunities. They close with leadership advice for aspiring superintendents: listen before acting, stay patient with long-term change, invest in succession planning, and intentionally grow the next generation of educational leaders. Timestamps 05:26 Planning for retirement and mentorship 09:42 Challenges of winter in our town 12:49 Advice for new superintendents 15:22 Getting involved in the community 19:22 Creating a strategic plan 22:38 Creating actionable strategic goals 25:02 Fostering a growth mindset 29:43 Teacher shortages and online schools 34:09 Advice for new superintendents 35:08 Mentoring future superintendents 38:38 Discussing superintendent succession planning Why You’ll Love This Episode If you care about rural education, strategic leadership, or building school systems that truly reflect their communities, this episode offers practical insights from a superintendent who believes schools should be places where students want to be. Spencer shares thoughtful strategies for community engagement, long-term planning, leadership development, and adapting to the changing realities of public education. Connect with Spencer Byrd LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-byrd-825084b5 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-byrd-825084b5] Website: https://www.chebschools.org/ [https://www.chebschools.org/] Follow Us Nate Lichte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/] Lebra Website: https://www.lebrahq.com/ [https://www.lebrahq.com/] Lebra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq [https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq] About Lebra Podcast The Lebra Podcast is where host Nate Lichte speaks with education leaders and innovators about the future of schools, uncovering stories and strategies that create meaningful impact. 👉 Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to the Lebra Podcast for more conversations on leadership, culture, and the future of learning.

Healing-Centered Leadership and the Power of Community with Dr. Barbara Mullen

In this episode of the Lebra Podcast, host Nate Lichte sits down with Dr. Barbara Mullen, Superintendent of Rush-Henrietta Central School District, to explore healing-centered leadership, organizational transformation, and what it truly means to lead schools through care, trust, and community voice. Drawing on a career that spans special education, communications, public relations, and district leadership across multiple major systems, Barbara reflects on the question that has guided her entire career: who gets to decide what high-quality learning experiences look like for children? She shares how that question ultimately shaped her leadership philosophy and led her to the superintendency. Barbara and Nate dive deeply into the inspiration behind Barbara’s upcoming book on healing-centered leadership in schools. She explains how experiences with organizational harm, power dynamics, and leadership trauma reshaped her thinking about school transformation, moving away from “turnaround” language and toward frameworks rooted in healing, restoration, and community agency. The conversation also explores Rush-Henrietta’s ambitious Vision 2037 strategic plan, which Barbara developed to ensure the district’s long-term direction would remain grounded in community values rather than shifting political pressures. She shares how transparency, authentic relationship-building, leadership pipelines, and professional learning communities are helping the district strengthen instructional leadership while creating systems that support both adults and students. Throughout the episode, Barbara offers thoughtful reflections on leadership sustainability, professional wellness, vulnerability, and why superintendents must learn to care for themselves if they hope to lead others effectively. They close with a powerful reminder that the superintendency is ultimately about loving and supporting the adults who dedicate their lives to children. Timestamps 03:10 About Rush-Henrietta Central School District 06:45 Healing-centered leadership explained 09:48 Organizational harm and leadership trauma 13:58 The Rooted Leadership Framework 15:47 Personal healing and self-awareness 17:54 Leadership wellness and sustainability 19:47 Mentoring and leadership pipelines 22:03 Leadership Learning Lab overview 24:34 Vision 2037 strategic planning 27:03 Leading beyond political noise 29:02 Building community trust 30:22 Aligning school and district goals Why You’ll Love This Episode If you care about authentic leadership, organizational culture, or building school systems rooted in healing and trust, this episode offers powerful insights from a superintendent rethinking how educational leadership can support both adults and students. Barbara brings honesty, vulnerability, and practical wisdom to conversations around leadership sustainability, community engagement, and system transformation. Connect with Barbara Mullen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-a-mullen-ph-d-91bb4116 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-a-mullen-ph-d-91bb4116] Website: https://www.rhnet.org/ [https://www.rhnet.org/] Follow Us Nate Lichte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/] Lebra Website: https://www.lebrahq.com/ [https://www.lebrahq.com/] Lebra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq [https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq] About Lebra Podcast The Lebra Podcast is where host Nate Lichte speaks with education leaders and innovators about the future of schools, uncovering stories and strategies that create meaningful impact. 👉 Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to the Lebra Podcast for more conversations on leadership, culture, and the future of learning.

Building Trust Through Turnaround: Christina Gibson on Systems, Courage, & Community Voice

In this episode of the Lebra Podcast, host Nate Lichte sits down with Christina Gibson, Superintendent of Eastpointe Community Schools, to explore what it takes to lead systemic turnaround in a district shaped by deep challenges, shifting demographics, and hard-earned resilience. Christina shares her path from artist and YMCA leader to educator, principal, assistant superintendent, and now superintendent. Across her career, she has been drawn to hard work in high-need schools, especially where systems need to be rebuilt for students who have historically been underserved. Nate and Christina discuss Eastpointe’s complex history, including broken trust, financial hardship, state intervention pressures, and the long-term impact of policy decisions on public schools. Christina explains why turnaround cannot happen through one lever alone. It requires aligned work across board governance, talent management, instructional infrastructure, community partnerships, facilities, finance, and leadership practice. The conversation also highlights how Eastpointe is rebuilding pride and belonging by listening to families and staff, creating a clear strategic plan, investing in athletics and activities, improving safety and security, strengthening curriculum, and choosing to “find the good” even when public criticism is loud. Key Moments 05:41 Challenges in public education 08:53 Facing district challenges and RICO charges 11:25 School district survives economic crisis 15:39 Evaluating talent management data 19:19 Leadership and culture building challenges 20:50 Building trust with teachers 23:20 Rebuilding community trust and partnerships 28:25 Addressing safety and security concerns 30:31 Discussing strategic priorities 33:44 Training team for relationship building 36:20 Seeing the best in everyone 39:38 Building relationships with the board 42:54 Challenges for superintendents in smaller districts Why You’ll Love This Episode If you care about district turnaround, public trust, or systems-level leadership, this episode offers a candid look at what real change requires. Christina brings honesty, urgency, and practical wisdom to the work of rebuilding a district around students, staff, and community voice. Connect with Christina Gibson  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinaagibson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinaagibson]Website: https://www.eastpointeschools.org/ [https://www.eastpointeschools.org/]  Follow Us Nate Lichte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/]Lebra Website: https://www.lebrahq.com/ [https://www.lebrahq.com/]Lebra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq [https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq] About Lebra Podcast The Lebra Podcast is where host Nate Lichte speaks with education leaders and innovators about the future of schools, uncovering stories and strategies that create meaningful impact. 👉 Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to the Lebra Podcast for more conversations on leadership, culture, and the future of learning.

Alicia D. Koster on How to Rebuild District Stability with a 10-Year Plan

In today’s episode, host Nate Lichte sits down with Alicia D. Koster, Superintendent of Schools of Greater Johnstown School District (NY). Koster shares her leadership journey—from corporate finance and business into public education—and how that nontraditional background shaped her strategic approach to district leadership. Together, Nate and Alicia explore why strategic planning is not just an operational tool, but a culture builder that strengthens trust, creates clarity, and helps communities stay aligned through difficult seasons. Alicia also unpacks Greater Johnstown’s context, the district’s past financial instability and enrollment decline, and the intentional systems used to rebuild staffing, programming, and community confidence over time. They close with practical advice for aspiring and first-year superintendents: build networks, seek leadership development opportunities, learn finance and long range planning, and invest in the relationships that make sustainable leadership possible. Key Moments 02:17 Strategic planning mindset and preparing for the superintendency 04:21 Why districts function like organizations—and why business acumen matters 07:24 How strategic planning strengthens communication, trust, and long term support 09:07 District context: rural NY, enrollment, budget, and student demographics 11:23 Leading through instability: rebuilding after financial disruption and staffing loss 16:18 Why revisiting the plan each year “keeps leaders honest” 17:43 Shared decision making structures and transparent communication systems 24:07 Rebuilding internal culture through relationships, visibility, and consistency 28:28 The next phase: graduation pathways, future ready skills, and student-centered opportunity 34:04 Advice for aspiring superintendents: associations, development programs, and finance skills Why You’ll Love This Episode If you are leading in a district where trust must be rebuilt—or trying to make strategic planning more than a compliance exercise—this conversation delivers practical clarity. Learn how consistent planning strengthens culture, how transparency builds long term support, and why relationships remain the core leadership lever in hard seasons. Follow Us Nate Lichte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/]Lebra Website: https://www.lebrahq.com/ [https://www.lebrahq.com/]Lebra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq [https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq] About Lebra Podcast The Lebra Podcast is where host Nate Lichte speaks with education leaders and innovators about the future of schools, uncovering stories and strategies that create meaningful impact. 👉 Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to the Lebra Podcast for more conversations on leadership, culture, and the future of learning.

Leading Through Growth and Constraints: Trent Provo on Strategy and Partnerships

In this episode of the Lebra Podcast, host Nate Lichte sits down with Trent Provo, Superintendent of the Monroe-Gregg School District, to explore leadership at the intersection of small-town culture and big-district pressures. Trent shares his non-traditional start as a pre-dentistry major before pivoting into education, then working his way from the classroom to school leadership and ultimately the superintendency. The conversation focuses on how Monroe-Gregg is balancing staffing and budget realities with long-term vision. Trent outlines his approach to financial stewardship, being proactive, evaluating every vacancy, and exploring outsourcing options without abandoning current staff. He also explains why transparency is non-negotiable, from openly discussing costs in board meetings to educating the public on how school funding actually works. Nate and Trent also explore community alignment and partnership strategy, including expanded work with Hendricks Regional Health (athletic training and nursing services), mental health partnerships supported by the Kendrick Foundation, and Bulldog Blessings, an in-district food pantry supporting families. On the academic side, Trent highlights initiatives like the Monrovia School of Integrated Technology (alternative education), Project Lead The Way, laser engraving and hands-on STEM work, online school expansion, and growing dual credit opportunities. Timestamps 06:28 "District Vision and Community Focus" 07:04 Strategic Plan: Vision for Graduates 12:51 Transparent Communication on Finances 14:40 "Family Forum for Graduate Input" 19:25 "Strategic Partnerships and Community Goals" 21:19 Alternative Education Saves Students 25:47 Servant Leadership in Action 30:23 "Acceptance and Faith Matter" 31:00 "Letting Go of Overthinking" 34:49 "Communication and Chain of Command" Why You’ll Love This Episode If you’re leading in a district that’s trying to grow while facing budget pressure and staffing competition, this episode offers grounded, real-world leadership strategies. Trent shares how to stay transparent without creating panic, build community trust proactively, and keep initiatives aligned to a strategic plan—while still protecting culture, staff, and student outcomes. Connect with Trent Provo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trent-provo-70ba8623 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/trent-provo-70ba8623]Website: https://www.m-gsd.org/ [https://www.m-gsd.org/]  Follow Us Nate Lichte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-lichte/]Lebra Website: https://www.lebrahq.com/ [https://www.lebrahq.com/]Lebra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq [https://www.linkedin.com/company/lebrahq] About Lebra Podcast The Lebra Podcast is where host Nate Lichte speaks with education leaders and innovators about the future of schools, uncovering stories and strategies that create meaningful impact. 👉 Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to the Lebra Podcast for more conversations on leadership, culture, and the future of learning.