Bill Wrigley (pt. 1) on Telling Lou Reed It's the Wrong Decade, Art School in NYC and Richard Serra

DiCo on the Power of Speech & Debate, Brooklyn Debate League, and Finding Trust When Things Change

"Over and over the narratives that we commit to will crash...so how do we move on in a way that is a bit more crash-proof?" DiCo is a Speech & Debate coach and history teacher at Stuyvesant High School. He graduated from the school in '03 and from Yale in '07. He also founded Brooklyn Debate League, a Speech & Debate nonprofit, featured on Humans of New York. We talked about processing trauma and identity through public speaking, letting go of the need to be the smartest to start crushing it, and not giving up on trust when things change. Also, Lin-Manuel Miranda, living in the borderlands, and speaking up. Things mentioned: Brooklyn Debate League [https://www.brooklyndebateleague.org] "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" [https://www.amazon.com/Pedagogy-Oppressed-Anniversary-Paulo-Freire/dp/0826412769]by Paulo Freire Rabbi Benay Lappe's TED Talk [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdeIFK7VSc] Gloria E. Anzaldúa [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_E._Anzaldúa] "The Talent Code" [https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Code-Greatness-Born-Grown/dp/055380684X] by Daniel Coyle Jonathan Livingston Seagull [https://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull-Richard-Bach/dp/0743278909] by Richard Bach Lin-Manuel Miranda [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin-Manuel_Miranda] The West Wing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_West_Wing]

Cyrus Cursetjee on Learning to Love Violin, Spanish, and Practicing with Intention

"Hey you, remember what you love!" One day in late March I sat down with Cyrus Cursetjee to talk about his passion for violin, table tennis, and computer science, how he would distribute apples in his classes and how grateful he is for his mother teaching him Spanish. (My favorite moment of the episode is when I convince him to call her and tell her...) Cyrus Cursetjee is a senior at Stuyvesant High School and an incoming freshman at Yale. Thank you for listening!

Bill Wrigley (pt. 2) on Impostor Syndrome, Teaching Art in a Stem School, and Parallels Between Coffee and Life

"The space for perfectionism is in the last 10% of the project, not the first 40%" This episode is a second installment with Bill Wrigley, a visual arts teacher at Stuyvesant High School, and this time we talked more about impostor syndrome, Mr. Wrigley’s lukewarm coffee metaphor for the way we make art and live our lives, as well as broader takes on education, self-sabotage, politics, not having space to cry, and Wes Anderson movies. Things mentioned: Adam Ellis [https://www.instagram.com/adamellisart/] "If you go for it, you'll live" Marcel Duchamp's Fountain [https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/duchamp-fountain-t07573] Kazimir Malevich's Black Square [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown] James Brown [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown] "I want to thank you" [https://hudsonriverpark.org/i-want-to-thank-you/]pier in Lower Manhattan (we see it from our school's windows) Jimmy Carter [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter] Overton window [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window] Actor David Thewlis [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thewlis] Wes Anderson's film [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_Aquatic_with_Steve_Zissou] The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

Anjini Katari on Being Okay with Not Being Okay, Memes, and Patience

"We need to take a collective deep breath and realize not everyone is out to get us" I sat down with my friend and classmate Anjini Katari to talk about how none of us actually have it all together, and how that's okay, too. Things mentioned: Studio 666 [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15374070/] "Something Bright, Then Holes" [https://www.amazon.com/Something-Bright-Holes-Maggie-Nelson/dp/1933368802] by Maggie Nelson TKS [https://www.tks.world] "Six of Crows" [https://www.amazon.com/Six-Crows-leigh-bardugo/dp/162779509X] by Leigh Bardugo "Arc of a Scythe" [https://www.mcnallyjackson.com/book/9781442472464] by Neal Shushterman

Bill Wrigley (pt. 1) on Telling Lou Reed It's the Wrong Decade, Art School in NYC and Richard Serra

Bill Wrigley is a visual arts teacher at Stuyvesant High School. We talked about his Columbia grad school thesis on Richard Serra, the nature of creative talent, electronic music, Andy Warhol, being chased by the Italian military police after too many espressos, and studying painting at Pratt Institute in the 90s. “There’s a saying in my home county-- you move to Boston to find yourself and to New York to lose yourself” Bill Wrigley's website: https://www.likethegum.com [https://www.likethegum.com/about-bill-wrigley] Things mentioned: Movie [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115632/] about Jean-Michel Basquiat I Shot Andy Warhol [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116594/] From A to B and Back Again [https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Andy-Warhol-Back-Again/dp/0156717204] book 4 hour documentary [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDIdjvezp2U] on Warhol (Youtube) Patti Smith and Robert Mapplethorpe [https://www.npr.org/2010/01/15/122582840/patti-smith-remembers-life-with-mapplethorpe] Richard Serra's The Matter of Time [https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/the-collection/works/the-matter-of-time] and Torqued Ellipse [https://www.diaart.org/collection/collection/serra-richard-torqued-ellipse-i-1996-1997-001] James Turrell [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/arts/design/james-turrell-pace-gallery-reinhardt.html] "Subsequent Performances" [https://www.amazon.com/Subsequent-Performances-J-Miller/dp/0571139280/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=] by Jonathan Miller The Creative Act [https://www.themarginalian.org/2012/08/23/the-creative-act-marcel-duchamp-1957/], a lecture by Marcel Duchamp Music mentioned: "Let's Go" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEuUovOpfKc] by The Reducers Techno Animal [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugNtpe48jEs] John Cage [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cage] Gogol Bordello [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogol_Bordello] Dresden Dolls [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUViPOrnfvU] Autechre's "Gantz Graf" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev3vENli7wQ] Portishead [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1f5eTHnxXk] Thelonious Monk [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshrtLXBdl8] David Bowie's album "Low" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv7Y7F-Q2KE&list=PLiN-7mukU_REnx_JyyDIB0ZnV7i6c6mIv&index=6] Brian Eno's "Music for Films" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5VIJor61uM] Surf Guitar Iggy Pop's theme [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_dYDwCdz_U] for Repo Man