How Do We Care Inside the Systems We Create with Mairi Mackay

Outsmarting Pain Through Awareness

In this episode of Mindfulness in Action, Dalida Turkovic reflects on Outsmart Your Pain by Christiane Wolf and explores the role of interoceptive awareness in pain management. What happens when we stop fighting the body and begin listening to it? Through mindfulness, embodiment, and compassionate attention, this conversation invites a different relationship to pain, stress, and the signals our nervous system continuously sends us. Mindfulness in Action is broadcast live Fridays at 11AM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Mindfulness in Action is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Mindfulness in Action Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.

In Service of Living Systems with Tristan Macquet

In this episode of Mindfulness in Action, Dalida Turkovic speaks with Tristan Macquet, an engineer, educator, and project facilitator bridging ecology, innovation, and human connection. Together, they explore what it means to work in service of living systems — restoring marine ecosystems, engaging communities, and responding to climate challenges — while reflecting on how mindfulness, responsibility, and action can meet in times of environmental change. Mindfulness in Action is broadcast live Fridays at 11AM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Mindfulness in Action is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Mindfulness in Action Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.

How Do We Care Inside the Systems We Create with Mairi Mackay

In this episode of Mindfulness in Action, Dalida speaks with Mairi Mackay, founder of MettaEconomics, whose work connects leadership, systems thinking, spirituality, and a more compassionate vision of economics. Drawing on experience in diplomacy, impact finance, and social innovation, Mairi explores what becomes possible when economics is shaped not only by growth and performance, but by care, relationship, and human values — and what leadership asks of us in times of global uncertainty. Mindfulness in Action is broadcast live Fridays at 11AM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Mindfulness in Action is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Mindfulness in Action Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.

Unpacking Emotions: Bittersweet

In this reflective episode, Dalida Turkovic explores the emotional landscape of bittersweetness — those moments when gratitude and longing, tenderness and loss, joy and sadness quietly coexist. Inspired by reflections from Atlas of the Heart and resonating with insights shared by Christopher Germer and the understanding that compassion often carries both tenderness and ache this episode invites a gentle exploration of emotions that are difficult to separate, yet deeply human. Mindfulness in Action is broadcast live Fridays at 11AM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Mindfulness in Action is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Mindfulness in Action Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.

The Art of Power

In this episode, Dalida reads an introduction to Thich Nhat Hanh's book The Art of Power and invites you into reflection on what power means in our time. In a world where success is often measured by speed, performance, and external results, this opening offers a different question: what helps us stay balanced, human, and deeply connected while moving through modern life? An invitation to pause, listen, and consider what kind of inner qualities are needed for success to remain rooted in wisdom. Mindfulness in Action is broadcast live Fridays at 11AM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Mindfulness in Action is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Mindfulness in Action Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.