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Prospecting hasn’t gotten easier—but it has gotten more human. In this episode of the My Sales Day podcast, Michael Hess welcomes back Susan Unger, a career prospector who quite literally does this work for a living. Susan is a senior “door opener” at Kopp Consulting, where her sole focus is securing first meetings with C-level decision makers when no prior relationship exists. If anyone understands the emotional grind of cold outreach in today’s market, it’s Susan. Recorded in mid-January—peak prospecting season—this conversation tackles why so many sellers avoid prospecting, what’s changed post-COVID, and how being prepared actually gives you permission to be more spontaneous, human, and effective. Susan breaks down how phone, email, and voicemail work together to tell a story over time, why vulnerability disarms resistance, and how small shifts—like asking permission or slowing down your delivery—can dramatically improve results. You’ll also hear why improv classes can sharpen selling skills, how listening to your own recorded calls accelerates growth, and why attitude, energy, and consistency matter more than clever scripts. This is a practical, confidence-building episode for sellers who want to stop dreading prospecting and start owning it. Featuring: Susan Unger Host: Michael Hess, My Sales Day Timestamps 00:01 Welcome back + why this episode matters right now 01:08 Why prospecting feels harder in today’s market 02:32 Kopp Consulting explained: pure cold outreach and “door opening” 03:14 Cold calling C-level execs with no prior relationship 04:36 What changed after COVID—and why clients are more open now 06:23 How Susan hands meetings off and secures the next meeting 08:13 Why locking the follow-up meeting before ending the call matters 09:26 Why sellers avoid prospecting (even when they know better) 10:03 Preparation as the gateway to confidence and authenticity 11:38 Being human on cold calls: vulnerability that works 14:23 Breaking the ice and buying time with empathy 16:03 You can think on your feet—practice makes it natural 18:27 Why improv training improves sales conversations 20:29 Authenticity, self-deprecation, and knowing your limits 24:07 “Show up prepared, then allow your personality” 27:24 Listening to your own calls: self-evaluation that pays off 30:12 Asking permission on cold calls—and why it works 33:31 Gamifying prospecting to beat resistance 36:22 Burst prospecting and building daily momentum 37:55 Why email + voicemail still create impressions 39:22 How managers can coach prospecting through real examples 42:20 Referral-based prospecting: the habit sellers forget 45:39 Motivation, mindset, and confidence rituals that stick 49:14 Quieting the inner voice and just starting 50:11 Final takeaway: better habits, better selling Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy [https://ausha.co/privacy-policy] for more information.
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