5. THE TWO PANDEMICS Interview with Dr Rochelle Menzies and Miriama Aoake.

6. CITIZENS AND STATES DURING CRISIS with Professor Susanna Trnka, medical anthropologist.

Professor Susanna Trnka, a professor of social and medical anthropology, and leader of the Pandemics Past, Present, and Future Research Hub talks to us about her body of work examining citizen state relationships in the context of political upheaval and health, and how her COVID-19 research was a natural extension from this. We also discuss what led to the formation of the research hub and how this fostered truly transdisciplinary conversation.

5. THE TWO PANDEMICS Interview with Dr Rochelle Menzies and Miriama Aoake.

Dr Rochelle Menzies and Miriama Aoake discuss the importance and flexibility of indigenous research methods like kaupapa Māori research and the challenges and successes experienced over the COVID-19 lockdowns. Dr Rochelle Menzies. Te Aitanga-ā-Māhaki, Ngāti Kahungunu. Senior Advisor Māori - Equity, Mental Health and Addiction Directorate, Ministry of Health. Miriama Aoake. Ngāti Mahuta, Ngāti Hinerangi and Waikato-Tainu. Woolf Fisher Scholar, Cambridge University.

4. FEAR AND FORGETTING IN AN ONGOING PANDEMIC Interview with Dr Heather Battles, biological anthropologist.

In this episode of Pandemics Reflected, Dr Heather Battles joins us to talk about her ongoing research on infectious disease epidemics and pandemics and the correlations she has found with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

3. Everything is Touched By Politics with Dr Maria Armoudian, Senior Lecturer in Politics and International Relations

Dr Maria Armoudian joins us on Pandemics Reflected to talk about retribution for human rights violations, how access to medical care relates directly to who lives and who dies and how her research plans were scuppered due to the COVID-19 lockdown.

2. The Dangerous World of Data Analysis Conversation with Dr Andrew Chen, Research Fellow

Today on Pandemics Reflected Pauline is talking to Dr. Andrew Chen, a former computer systems engineer, current data ethics specialist and Research Fellow at Koi Tū: The Centre for Informed Futures, based at the University of Auckland. In this episode we discuss how this huge disciplinary shift came about as a result of the pandemic, the COVID tracker system.