The Compulsive Liar at Your Desk: A Conversation About AI and Reading

The Case for Abandoning Your Book (For Now)

📋 WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! Pen Pals has a listener survey and we need your feedback to make the show even better. Fill it out at: https://form.typeform.com/to/kIosWT3L [https://form.typeform.com/to/kIosWT3L] — it takes just a few minutes and means the world to us. In this late-season check-in, Krisserin and Kelton answer a listener letter from Paige, a new mom asking whether to return to her pandemic-era novel or start one of her shiny new ideas. Their answer surprises even them — and leads to an honest conversation about burnout, creative momentum, and how to use stolen writing time when life refuses to pause. Plus: Dungeon Crawler Carl, and the listener survey you really should fill out. Books mentioned in this episode: - Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman - Nora Goes Off Script by Annabelle Monaghan - Unstuck by Ramona Ausubel  - The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss - The Easter Parade by Richard Yates - Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry Write to us: officialpenpalspod@gmail.com Follow us: Instagram: @penpalspod [https://www.instagram.com/penpalspod] TikTok: @penpalspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@penpalspod] YouTube: @PenPalsPod [https://www.youtube.com/@PenPalsPod] SubStack: penpalspod.substack.com [https://penpalspod.substack.com/] Follow Krisserin and Kelton: TikTok: @krisserin [https://www.tiktok.com/@krisserin], @keltonwrites [https://www.tiktok.com/@keltonwrites] Instagram: @keltonkin [https://www.instagram.com/keltonkin], @keltonwrites [https://www.instagram.com/keltonwrites] Kelton's Substack: Shangrilogs [https://shangrilogs.substack.com/] Krisserin's Substack: krisserin.substack.com [https://krisserin.substack.com/] Music by Golden Hour Oasis Studios

What Breathwork Unlocks for Writers with Amanda Fletcher

Krisserin and Kelton are running on fumes — sleep-deprived, burned out, and staring down a summer deadline that feels impossible. Enter Amanda Fletcher: writer, breathwork practitioner, PEN Center USA Emerging Voices fellow, and one of the most magnetic people in the Los Angeles literary community. Amanda shares her winding path from born storyteller to mathlete to kinesiology major, and the losses that knocked her off course — including her mother's death by suicide when Amanda was 24. What followed was over a decade of addiction, a broken neck, and eventually the writing classes and recovery community that brought her back to the page. Amanda explains how she discovered breathwork in early sobriety, why she believes our stories are imprinted on our nervous systems, and how the same limiting beliefs that block our creativity can be unlocked through intentional breathing. She guides listeners through a simple breathwork exercise they can use before a writing session, and makes the case that getting unstuck as a writer might start with getting out of your head and into your body. Follow Amanda: Instagram: @theamandafletcher Email: theamandafletcher@gmail.com Website: amandafletcher.me [http://amandafletcher.me/]Amanda's upcoming virtual breathwork sessions: Tuesday, June 2 at 6pm PT [https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/gzyeziJzRS-cjGyRA5kV7A] Saturday, June 6 at 8am PT [https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/ONtdZOY7RxaGSOX5LFrAXQ] Saturday, June 20 at 8am PT [https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/O9kaObATQ9y3_9MZTtVrXQ] Saturday, June 27 at 10am PT [https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/_CCKC7cySCyTXVkCvnoFAg] Tuesday, June 30 at 6pm PT [https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/TFBT1CwrQl-sNVUIJ9Rp3w] Books Mentioned in this Episode: "The Ogress and the Orphans" by Kelly Barnhill  "Piranesi" by Susanna Clarke  "White Oleander" by Janet Fitch  "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield  "A Million Little Pieces" by James Frey  "Agnes Aubert's Mystical Cat Shelter" by Heather Fawcett Write to us: officialpenpalspod@gmail.com Follow us: Instagram: @penpalspod [https://www.instagram.com/penpalspod] TikTok: @penpalspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@penpalspod] YouTube: @PenPalsPod [https://www.youtube.com/@PenPalsPod] SubStack: penpalspod.substack.com [https://penpalspod.substack.com/] Follow Krisserin and Kelton: TikTok: @krisserin [https://www.tiktok.com/@krisserin], @keltonwrites [https://www.tiktok.com/@keltonwrites] Instagram: @keltonkin [https://www.instagram.com/keltonkin], @keltonwrites [https://www.instagram.com/keltonwrites] Kelton's Substack: Shangrilogs [https://shangrilogs.substack.com/] Krisserin's Substack: krisserin.substack.com [https://krisserin.substack.com/] Music by Golden Hour Oasis Studios

ER Visits, Cozy Reads, and the Grace of Not Writing

Krisserin checks in from a Kansas City hotel room fresh off an unexpected ER visit in St. Louis — chest pains, a CT scan, and a lot of unanswered questions — while Kelton battles a household plague of sickness, broken blow-dryers, and postpartum burnout. The two trade brutally honest book reviews: Krisserin DNFs the buzzy bestseller Yesteryear (great concept, rough execution), while Kelton grinds through the literary sci-fi of The Other Valley and falls head over heels for Heather Fawcett's Agnes Aubert's Mystical Cat Shelter. They dig into what makes good writing actually good — from research depth to character arcs to the controversial no-quotation-marks device — and commiserate over nepo babies in Hollywood, the guilt of not writing, and the importance of just taking care of yourself when life is beating you up. This week's goals: a spa treatment in Vegas and some middle grade fiction in the mountains. Books Mentioned in this episode: "Yesteryear" by Caro Claire Burke "The Other Valley" by Scott Alexander Howard "Agnes Aubert's Mystical Cat Shelter" by Heather Fawcett "Piranesi" by Susanna Clarke "Dungeon Crawler Carl" by Matt Matt Dinniman "The Ogress and the Orphans" by Kelly Barnhill "The Bear and the Nightingale" by Katherine Arden Write to us: officialpenpalspod@gmail.com Follow us: Instagram: @penpalspod [https://www.instagram.com/penpalspod] TikTok: @penpalspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@penpalspod] YouTube: @PenPalsPod [https://www.youtube.com/@PenPalsPod] SubStack: penpalspod.substack.com [https://penpalspod.substack.com/] Follow Krisserin and Kelton: TikTok: @krisserin [https://www.tiktok.com/@krisserin], @keltonwrites [https://www.tiktok.com/@keltonwrites] Instagram: @keltonkin [https://www.instagram.com/keltonkin], @keltonwrites [https://www.instagram.com/keltonwrites] Kelton's Substack: Shangrilogs [https://shangrilogs.substack.com/] Krisserin's Substack: krisserin.substack.com [https://krisserin.substack.com/] Music by Golden Hour Oasis Studios

Alli Hoff Kosik on Writing Christian Influencers with Heart in Too Blessed to Stress

This week on Pen Pals, Krisserin and Kelton sit down with debut novelist Alli Hoff Kosik to discuss her buzzy new novel, Too Blessed to Stress — a sharp, funny, and unexpectedly tender story about Christian influencers, megachurch culture, and the complicated women behind perfectly curated feeds. Alli shares how a pandemic-era fascination with influencer culture inspired the book, why she wanted to approach her characters with empathy instead of judgment, and how social media, capitalism, faith, and performance intersect online. They also discuss writing motherhood into real life, balancing creativity with burnout, MFA programs, multiple POV novels, and the challenge of building a writing life while raising small children. Plus: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives comparisons, parasocial internet rabbit holes, writing routines, podcasting, and whether Krisserin and Kelton actually sound the same. Books Mentioned in This Episode The Other Valley by Scott Alexander Howard The Giver by Lois Lowry Prep by Curtis Sittenfeld Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid Come and Get It by Kiley Reid Maame by Jessica George Love by the Book by Jessica George Confessions of a Shopaholic by Sophie Kinsella Long Bright River by Liz Moore Nightshade by Eli Raphael Find Alli Hoff Kosik Website: Alli Hoff Kosik Official Website [https://allihoffkosik.com/] Instagram: @allihoffkosik Substack: https://allihoffkosik.substack.com/ [https://allihoffkosik.substack.com/] Podcast: Is This a Thing? [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-this-a-thing/id1819214635] with Abby Wolfe Buy Too Blessed to Stress [https://bookshop.org/p/books/too-blessed-to-stress-alli-hoff-kosik/aa6dfb993b9448b2?ean=9781538771969&next=t] on Bookshop.org Write to us: officialpenpalspod@gmail.com Follow us: Instagram: @penpalspod [https://www.instagram.com/penpalspod] TikTok: @penpalspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@penpalspod] YouTube: @PenPalsPod [https://www.youtube.com/@PenPalsPod] SubStack: penpalspod.substack.com [https://penpalspod.substack.com/] Follow Krisserin and Kelton: TikTok: @krisserin [https://www.tiktok.com/@krisserin], @keltonwrites [https://www.tiktok.com/@keltonwrites] Instagram: @keltonkin [https://www.instagram.com/keltonkin], @keltonwrites [https://www.instagram.com/keltonwrites] Kelton's Substack: Shangrilogs [https://shangrilogs.substack.com/] Krisserin's Substack: krisserin.substack.com [https://krisserin.substack.com/] Music by Golden Hour Oasis Studios

The Compulsive Liar at Your Desk: A Conversation About AI and Reading

Krisserin and Kelton are running on fumes—and they're honest about it. Both hosts arrive at this week's accountability check-in feeling ragged: Krisserin is limping toward summer with a fried brain and a work trip on the horizon; Kelton is two years postpartum, pausing her newsletter for the month, and trying to remember what living feels like. Their respective goal updates are modest and real: Krisserin squeezed in two revision sessions (one of them in the car), while Kelton wrote 2,500 words—just not on her novel.   Krisserin and Kelton spend most of the episode answering listener mail. Kelly Barrett's six questions become the backbone of a wide-ranging conversation about AI (how they use it at work, why neither uses it for their own writing, and what happens when you catch your home assistant lying), reading life (when, how, how much, and what to do when a book isn't working), and self-publishing as a real option rather than a last resort.   Plus: dream therapy intake forms, artist dates in rural Colorado, thrift store prices that are absolutely not okay, and goals for a week when one spouse is heading into the mountains.   Books mentioned: Starling House by Alix E. Harrow The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern Coyote America by Dan Flores The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Sevenwaters Series by Juliet Marillier   Big thank you to Kelly Barrett for her very thoughtful listener letter. She writes the newsletter Practice Not Perfect at kellybarrett.substack.com [https://kellybarrett.substack.com/].  Write to us: officialpenpalspod@gmail.com Follow us: Instagram: @penpalspod [https://www.instagram.com/penpalspod] TikTok: @penpalspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@penpalspod] YouTube: @PenPalsPod [https://www.youtube.com/@PenPalsPod] SubStack: penpalspod.substack.com [https://penpalspod.substack.com/] Follow Krisserin and Kelton: TikTok: @krisserin [https://www.tiktok.com/@krisserin], @keltonwrites [https://www.tiktok.com/@keltonwrites] Instagram: @keltonkin [https://www.instagram.com/keltonkin], @keltonwrites [https://www.instagram.com/keltonwrites] Kelton's Substack: Shangrilogs [https://shangrilogs.substack.com/] Krisserin's Substack: krisserin.substack.com [https://krisserin.substack.com/] Music by Golden Hour Oasis Studios