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NCSC’s Ollie Whitehouse on surviving the "bugpocalypse"

29 min · 18 de may de 2026
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In this edition of Risky Business Features Ollie Whitehouse, the CTO of the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre, joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to talk about why “patch faster” will only get organisations so far in the face of the AI “bugpocalypse”. As Ollie explains, organisations will need to reduce internet-facing attack surface and make better architecture decisions as 0day discovery speeds up. This episode is also available on YouTube [https://youtu.be/0ygJ6XhDVjw]. SHOW NOTES

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