Studio Central and Eastern Europe
What does it mean for a country to become “transit”? Is this a matter of geography, or a political choice? And how do such choices reshape the rights and lived realities of those seeking refuge? In this episode of Studio Central and Eastern Europe, Denitsa Marchevska speaks with Dr Julija Sardelić, Senior Lecturer in Political Science and International Relations at Te Herenga Waka – Victoria University of Wellington. The conversation grows out of Sardelić’s recent book, Refugee Protection Crises and Transit Europe (Springer, 2025). She advances a compelling argument: so-called “transit countries” do not merely find themselves in that position—they actively fashion themselves as such, precisely to circumscribe their obligations towards those in search of protection. Tracing four key moments in post-war European history—from the displacement following the 1956 Hungarian Revolution, through the Yugoslav wars, to the movements of 2015–2016 and the flight from Ukraine after Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022—Sardelić shows how states in Central and South-East Europe have recurrently cast themselves as temporary waypoints. This self-positioning, she argues, enables them to withhold full refugee status and the rights it entails, transforming what are commonly termed “refugee crises” into, more accurately, “refugee protection crises”. The episode situates these insights within the wider architecture of the international refugee regime, which Sardelić characterises as both hierarchical and racialised. It considers how selective forms of diversity politics sustain uneven systems of protection, while leaving all refugees in conditions of precarity. Denitsa Marchevska brings to the discussion her expertise as a postdoctoral researcher at KU Leuven, where she studies public policy-making and administrative processes in hybrid regimes and weak democracies. Together, they offer a reflection on borders, belonging, and the political production of mobility—and its suspension—in contemporary Europe.
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