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Maestro Stevens, founder of Iconic Expressions, shares how he went from failed ventures to building a scalable business. This episode breaks down branding vs marketing, using AI to automate workflows, choosing the right clients, and the real sacrifices behind entrepreneurship. Support Swurl [https://www.swurl.io/] Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swurl/swurl-a-networking-space-without-marketing] "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm [https://vlvt.fm/swurlradio?utm_source=swurlradio&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=partner_referral&utm_content=cdep]"
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