Doug Schwab - Room Wars and Panther Train :: Ep 12 The Full Tilt Podcast

Jamil Kelly - Wrestling The Odds :: Ep 16 The Full Tilt Podcast

Jamil Kelly’s wrestling story doesn’t follow the usual script. He wasn’t a blue‑chip recruit. He didn’t win an NCAA title. But he did become an Olympic silver medalist and one of the most respected coaches in the sport. In this episode of the Full Tilt Podcast, we cover Jamil’s entire arc: – Growing up in Atwater, CA and getting pulled into wrestling as a late starter – Learning from VHS tapes, “How Low Can You Go,” and studying the greats – JUCO life at Lassen with future D1 and international stars – Transitioning to Oklahoma State under John Smith and battling the mental side of confidence – Wrestling Lightner, Guerrero, Ironside, Schmidt and living through the Bedlam era – Training with Colet and the 2000 Olympic Team and realizing the Olympics were possible – Beating Lincoln McIlravy, qualifying for Athens, and winning Olympic silver – Coaching at Harvard, Stanford, Arizona State, UNC, and in the corner for world champion Trent Hidlay It’s a masterclass in belief, persistence, and what it really takes to “know what it looks like” at the highest level of wrestling. Timestamps: 04:15 – Growing up in Atwater, CA and getting “talked into” wrestling as a 4'11" freshman football player 12:40 – VHS tapes, “How Low Can You Go,” and learning wrestling by rewinding John Smith a thousand times 21:10 – From non‑power high school to California state podium and finding JUCO powerhouse Lassen College 32:00 – Life at Lassen: TJ Williams, Reggie Wright, Belarusian hammers, and turning JUCO into a D1 factory 41:30 – The Oklahoma State visit during World Cup, choosing the Cowboys, and first reality check in the OSU room 53:00 – Mental battles in college: wrestling not to lose, Lightner stories, and what held Jamil back at NCAAs  1:03:30 – How training with Colet, Terry Brands, and the 2000 Olympic Team made the Olympics feel possible 1:13:00 – Beating Lincoln McIlravy at the 2004 Trials, game-planning the Russian, and winning Olympic silver 1:22:00 – Coaching chapter: Harvard culture shock, building trust with athletes, and the “odd couple” partnership with Trent Hidlay 1:25:30 – What Jamil wants wrestlers and coaches to take away about belief, preparation, and “knowing what it looks like”  If you enjoy this episode, hit subscribe, drop a comment with your favorite story, and tell us which wrestling legend you want to hear from next! www.thefulltiltpodcast.com

Nate Carr - Faith, Family, Wrestling :: Ep 15 The Full Tilt Podcast

Three-time NCAA champion and Olympic medalist Nate Carr joins Full Tilt to share how a house of 16 kids, a pastor dad, and a wrestling-obsessed family forged one of the greatest legacies in American wrestling. Nate breaks down his classic battles with Kenny Monday, the influence of Coach Nichols and the Gatsons, and what he learned competing against Soviet greats on the world stage. He also goes deep on mindset, visualization, and faith, revealing the mental tools he used to win and how he now uses them to coach the next generation, including his son and NCAA champion David Carr. This is a masterclass in building champions in sport and in life. Timed Highlights:  00:00 Growing up in a 16-kid wrestling family in Erie, PA 06:30 Family rivalry, All-Americans, Olympians, and broken furniture stories 13:30 Setting goals to become the best wrestler in the family and a national champion 19:00 Why Nate chose Iowa State over Iowa and the power of winning over mom in recruiting 25:30 Coach Harold Nichols, legendary workout rooms, and tough practice stories 33:00 Classic Iowa vs Iowa State battles and early college rivalries 38:30 Scott Trizzino, Jay Robinson, and fueling the Iowa–Iowa State rivalry 44:00 Kenny Monday rivalries, overtime NCAA finals, and epic trash talk 52:00 Making the World Team, 1984 Olympic Trials heartbreak, and coming back for 1988 59:00 Wrestling Soviet legend Arsen Fadzaev and what made the Russians different 1:06:00 What Americans learned (and missed) from Soviet training systems 1:11:00 Coaching philosophy: purpose-driven practice, mindset, and self-talk 1:18:00 The visualization exercise Nate used before wrestling Kenny Monday 1:24:00 Coaching David Carr, raising seven kids, and being a “professional encourager” 1:28:00 Faith, purpose, and why failure does not make you a failure If you enjoy this episode, hit subscribe, drop a comment with your favorite story, and tell us which wrestling legend you want to hear from next! www.thefulltiltpodcast.com

Bill Scherr - Saving Olympic Wrestling :: Ep 14 The Full Tilt Podcast

World champion, Olympic medalist, and finance executive Bill Scherr joins the show for a deep dive into one of the most fascinating careers in wrestling history. Bill shares how baling hay in rural South Dakota built his strength, why Randy Lewis changed what South Dakota kids believed was possible, and how Nebraska went from “death’s door” to national trophy contender. He breaks down Soviet dominance, Iranian passion for the sport, training under legends like Dan Gable and Jay Robinson, and the brutal art of “Red Flag Days.” Bill also talks about his success in both freestyle and Greco, moving up to 220 for the good of Team USA, coaching the women’s national team, and chairing the global effort that brought wrestling back into the Olympic Games. If you love old-school war stories, high-level strategy, and big-picture thinking about the future of wrestling, this one’s loaded front to back. Timestamps: 02:13 Growing up in Mobridge, South Dakota, big family, farm work 05:34 South Dakota wrestling culture, influence of Randy Lewis 07:52 Rapid City dual: Randy pins Alexiev, arena explodes 10:09 How youth wrestling has evolved with better training and media 13:52 Choosing Nebraska, Lewis family connection, rebuilding the program 16:20 “Murderers Row” at Nebraska and comeback dual wins 17:29 College rivals: Pete Bush, Ed Banach, classic matches 21:13 Dan Gable stories and the congratulatory letter after 1985 worlds 22:18 Dave Schultz’s curiosity, learning from everyone, Book of Five Rings 25:48 Jay Robinson, visualization, and “fatigue is your friend” 27:39 Red Flag Days and training to get tired 32:03 1981: four national finals in a few weeks (AAU vs USWF) 38:24 Greco success, Frazier, Hauck, and choosing freestyle 47:11 Wrestling the Soviets: strength, systems, regional styles 52:03 Iranians, politics, and the 1985 world final medal stand story 55:57 Moving up to 220 so his brother and Mark Schultz could all make teams 58:28 Never cutting weight and advice to parents on weight cutting 1:07:07 Goodwill Games buzzer-beater and immediate jump to Goldman Sachs 1:13:08 Coaching at Indiana and Northwestern, Herbert and Fox 1:14:21 Coaching the U.S. women’s team and early growth of women’s wrestling 1:18:15 Tricia Saunders’ impact and resistance to women wrestling 1:24:58 Chairing the effort to save Olympic wrestling (CPOW) 1:27:52 How wrestling got dropped and then brought back to the Olympics 1:33:19 What wrestling must fix: rules, challenges, TV product 1:38:36 Funny Mark Manning story: selling blood for spring break If you enjoy this episode, hit subscribe, drop a comment with your favorite story, and tell us which wrestling legend you want to hear from next! www.thefulltiltpodcast.com

Randy Couture - Blueprint of a Fight Legend :: Ep 13 The Full Tilt Podcast

UFC Hall of Famer and Olympic Greco-Roman standout Randy “The Natural” Couture sits down for a deep-dive into the journey behind the legend. From wrestling for the U.S. Army in the Cold War era to battling on the NCAA stage, chasing Olympic dreams, and pioneering MMA game-planning, Randy shares the untold stories that shaped his career and life. He talks about discovering Greco by accident, training alongside icons at Oklahoma State, wild international tours in communist Europe and Cuba, the infamous “experiment” Alexander Karelin, transitioning into the UFC, and why wrestling is still the ultimate foundation for fighting.  If you’re into wrestling, MMA, or high-performance mindset, this is a masterclass in resilience, problem-solving, and trusting the process.  Timed Highlights  00:00 – Cold open  03:30 – Joining the Army, becoming an air traffic controller, and rediscovering wrestling  10:00 – Accidentally entering Greco and winning his first Greco tournament  17:00 – Making the All-Army team and discovering how big combative sports are in the military  24:00 – The wild 1988 military worlds in Palermo and armored-car rides through Sicily  32:00 – Choosing Oklahoma State, recruiting visit with Sheets and coon hunting in Stillwater  40:00 – Big duals, Iowa–Oklahoma State rivalries, and wrestling Don Frye for a lineup spot  47:30 – World-level Greco years, rivalries with Mike Foy and Steve Klock, and Pan Am stories  56:00 – Training and living with Marines, Navy, and Army wrestlers; real poverty in Cuba  1:03:00 – Discovering the early UFC on VHS and recognizing Don Frye in the cage  1:10:00 – Working with Rico Ciparelli and RAW, integrating wrestling into MMA game plans  1:18:00 – Why Greco is the best base for MMA and learning to fight off the cage  1:26:00 – The James Toney fight, reviving the low single, and using “John Smith” tactics in MMA  1:34:00 – How setbacks (NCAA and Olympic trials) led to a bigger path than he imagined  1:42:00 – Faith, timing, mentors, and the small “corner” that really matters  If you enjoy this episode, hit subscribe, drop a comment with your favorite story, and tell us which wrestling legend you want to hear from next!  www.thefulltiltpodcast.com

Doug Schwab - Room Wars and Panther Train :: Ep 12 The Full Tilt Podcast

Doug Schwab joins the Full Tilt Podcast for a deep dive into Iowa wrestling culture, his days under Dan Gable, the brutal “I quit” practices, making World and Olympic teams, and building the Panther Train at UNI. Doug shares real coaching gold on culture, competition, and what it means to raise tough, grounded kids in the sport. From small-town Osage roots and legendary rivalries, to Iowa’s dynasty rooms and the Olympic stage, Doug opens up about faith, failure, loyalty, and how he’s now guiding the next generation—including his own sons. Timed Highlights 0:00 Opening story: the infamous “I quit” practice with Ironside 1:11 Full Tilt intro and welcoming Doug Schwab 1:27 Doug on living the wrestling lifestyle year-round 2:02 UNI’s wrestling room and making the most of what you have 4:39 Growing up Schwab in Osage, Iowa 5:23 What Iowa high school wrestling and “the Barn” felt like 8:23 Small-town rivalries and heated New Hampton–Osage battles 13:33 Transitioning into the Gable–Zalesky era at Iowa 15:03 First Iowa practice: getting destroyed by Ironside 18:10 Life inside the Iowa practice room and “rite of passage” beatdowns 20:18 The toughest guys Doug ever wrestled in the room 23:38 Real Pro Wrestling era and battles with Chris Bono 26:01 Learning to use rivals and emotions as fuel, not poison 29:50 Why relationships matter more than wins and losses 32:16 Taking over at UNI: coming in “hot and hard” as a young head coach 34:01 Early Panther guys who bought in and changed the program 38:18 How UNI built All-Americans and national champs like Drew Foster 40:39 Coaching philosophy: loyalty, development, and culture over credentials 42:39 The West Gym to MAT Club transition and keeping the team together 47:39 Filling McLeod, embracing growth, and honoring the West Gym 50:30 Doug as a dad: raising wrestlers without burning them out 56:33 Gap years, emotional maturity, and long-term development 1:02:03 Letting kids struggle and not “rescuing” them too early 1:08:30 Balancing dad vs. coach and playing the long game 1:18:04 Parker Keckeisen’s work ethic and impact on UNI 1:24:39 Building a staff that truly aligns with program values 1:33:18 What Doug wants his athletes to leave UNI with 2:03:40 Doug on pouring back into the sport and being in Iowa 2:08:30 Closing: friendship, gratitude, and the future of Panther Train If you enjoy this episode, hit subscribe, drop a comment with your favorite story, and tell us which wrestling legend you want to hear from next! www.thefulltiltpodcast.com