The HIDDEN Podcast by Babble
Cyber criminals don’t always need to break through your firewall. Sometimes, they just need someone to click. In this episode, Lynn sits down with James Gaskell to unpack why human behaviour remains one of the biggest cyber security risks facing SMBs today, and why AI-assisted phishing and social engineering attacks are becoming harder to spot than ever. Because modern phishing doesn’t always look suspicious anymore. It looks like urgency. Convenience. A QR code at an event. A message from your bank. A quick request from a colleague. And when people are busy, distracted, or simply trying to get through the day, mistakes happen. That’s exactly what attackers are counting on. But this episode isn’t about blame or fear. It’s about understanding how human risk actually works, and how small, consistent changes can dramatically reduce exposure over time. James explores why cyber security training often becomes a tick-box exercise, how shadow IT and unofficial tools quietly create risk, and why visibility into everyday behaviour matters just as much as the technology protecting your business. Most importantly, this conversation reframes people not as the weakest link, but as a potential line of defence (when they’re supported with the right awareness, guidance, and processes). Improving cyber security starts with understanding where your gaps are and building from there. A Cyber Security Snapshot [https://info.babble.cloud/cyber-security-snapshot] helps organisations identify those hidden gaps across people, devices, access, and data – creating a clearer picture of where risk actually sits. Key takeaways: · Why phishing attacks are still so effective · How AI is changing social engineering attacks · The hidden risks created by everyday behaviour · Why cyber awareness training often falls short · How to turn people into a stronger line of defence Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:01 Meet James Gaskell 02:18 Why phishing still works 05:10 How social engineering became more convincing 11:16 Why attackers target behaviour, not systems 13:04 The hidden gaps in everyday cyber habits 14:48 Shadow IT and the visibility problem 17:40 Moving from reactive to proactive security 19:28 Turning people into part of the defence 22:03 Measuring human risk properly 23:18 James’s final advice 24:18 Conclusion
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