The Hidden Way
In this episode, I’m joined by therapist Cindy Payne for a conversation about nervous system safety, complex trauma, and the patterns many women find themselves stuck in—like people-pleasing, perfectionism, and overthinking. We talk about what it means to feel safe in your body, and why so many people feel anxious, overwhelmed, or shut down—even when their life looks “fine” from the outside. Cindy explains the difference between top-down approaches (like trying to change your thoughts) and the deeper, body-based work of creating safety underneath those patterns. We also explore: – why you can be doing everything “right” and still feel off – how early relationships shape your sense of safety and belonging – the role of shame in keeping you stuck – and what it actually looks like to begin building safety in everyday life This isn’t about quick fixes. It’s about learning how to listen to your body, understand your patterns, and relate to yourself in a different way. If you’ve ever felt like you’re trying really hard but something still isn’t working, this conversation will likely resonate. You can find Cindy at cindypayne.com [https://cindypayne.com/] or on Instagram @cindypaynerooted [https://www.instagram.com/cindypaynerooted/], and her podcast Reclaiming Me. [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reclaiming-me-heal-your-childhood-attachment-wounds/id1765039841] You can find me on Instagram @thehiddenwaypod [https://www.instagram.com/thehiddenwaypod/] or on Substack. [https://rudibetzold.substack.com/]
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