The Journey (with Leo Young)
In this episode of The Journey, Leo sits down with Nathan Gwilliam, serial entrepreneur and founder behind multiple digital companies, including the platform behind one of the most visited adoption websites in the world. Nathan shares how he started his first company as a college student in the late 90s, grew it into a global platform over 24 years, and eventually exited before launching several new ventures. His latest company, PodUp, was built after experiencing firsthand how complex and fragmented the podcasting ecosystem had become. What started as a challenge while publishing daily content turned into the idea for an all-in-one platform designed to help creators launch, grow, and monetize podcasts more efficiently. The conversation explores entrepreneurship, raising capital, building global teams, and why profitability should always be a founder’s north star. Nathan also shares lessons from scaling multiple companies, how referrals drive both fundraising and growth, and why decisive action matters more than perfect decisions. If you are a founder, creator, or entrepreneur looking to build scalable digital businesses, this episode offers practical insights from someone who has repeatedly built, sold, and rebuilt companies from the ground up. Key topics covered * How Nathan built and sold one of the largest adoption platforms online * The challenge that led him to create an all-in-one podcasting platform * Russell Brunson’s challenge to publish every day for a year * Turning podcast content into millions in new company value * Why raising capital can feel like giving up control * The importance of referrals when raising investment capital * Why founders should focus on profitability early * Building global teams and scaling operations in India * The importance of hiring A players and building strong systems * Why indecision can be worse than making the wrong decision Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Nathan Gwilliam 00:52 Nathan’s early entrepreneurial journey 02:00 Building adoption.com and the mission behind it 03:30 The idea behind PodUp and solving podcasting complexity 04:21 Russell Brunson’s challenge to publish daily 06:20 The reality of producing daily content 08:27 Turning a podcast into a new software company 09:35 Raising capital and why Nathan dislikes fundraising 11:44 How referrals helped raise millions in investment 12:46 Lessons from selling previous companies 14:05 Avoiding bad investor terms 15:55 Why founders must prioritize profitability 17:41 Building a global team in India 19:07 Breaking misconceptions about international talent 22:16 The importance of hiring the right leaders 24:55 Building systems and processes that scale 27:42 Why content builds trust with customers 29:31 Nathan’s most important lesson from entrepreneurship 30:38 Why indecision can be worse than failure 31:21 The power of testing and iteration in business 33:28 How to connect with Nathan 🤝 Connect with Nathan Gwilliam https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathangwilliam [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathangwilliam] https://www.instagram.com/nathangwilliam/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/nathangwilliam/?hl=en] https://www.facebook.com/nathangwilliam/ [https://www.facebook.com/nathangwilliam/] https://x.com/NathanGwilliam [https://x.com/NathanGwilliam] 👋 Connect with Leo https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young] https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate [https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate] Invest with us: https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call [https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call] 👍 Support the Show If this episode brought you value, please follow, like, and share the podcast so more people can discover conversations like this ⚠️ Disclaimer This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice. Always consult licensed professionals before making investment or business decisions.
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