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Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1921728/fan_mail/new] Episode 40 Journalist Lisa A. Phillips discusses her new book First Love, exploring the emotional landscape of adolescent relationships, the significance of first loves, and how early experiences shape future romantic patterns. She shares insights on the importance of conversations around love and boundaries for teens. Journalist Lisa Phillips is the author of the book, First Love: Guiding Teens through Relationships and Heartbreak [https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538161685/First-Love-Guiding-Teens-through-Relationships-and-Heartbreak]. Lisa has written about relationships, mental health, and teens for The New York Times, The Washington Post, Longreads, Psychology Today, Cosmopolitan, Salon, and other outlets. She teaches journalism and the popular “Love and Heartbreak” seminar at the State University of New York at New Paltz. She’s published two previous books: Unrequited: The Thinking Woman’s Guide to Romantic Obsession [https://www.amazon.com/Unrequited-Thinking-Womans-Romantic-Obsession/dp/0062114026] and Public Radio: Behind the Voices [https://www.amazon.com/Public-Radio-Behind-Lisa-Phillips/dp/B000GIW446]. Phillips began her journalism career in public radio, working for radio stations in the Midwest and Northeast for more than a decade. She is a recipient of a New York Foundation for the Arts grant lives in New York's Hudson Valley. Learn more here: https://www.lisaamyphillips.com/ [https://www.lisaamyphillips.com/] In this episode, (in order) we talked about: *How her daughter inspired the book *How our first loves shape us later in life *The importance of not dismissing a kid’s crush and instead validating the pain *Identity crushes & the Jungian notion of anima and animus *How “becoming” aspects of your crush you admire can free you from your crush *The importance of redemption stories to overcome heartbreak *Why self-actualization is not a prerequisite to being in a healthy relationship *Relationships exist no matter what you call them *The realizations she had when she reached out to her first love decades later Quotes “Our first experiences with pleasure create a kind of template for future attractions…we're forming associations with the conditions of pleasure that can be very lasting throughout our lives.” “But if you've had the experience of breaking free from a pattern, which I certainly feel I did when I met my husband, that is the example of, okay, ‘I added this room to my house where it's still my house, but there's this different space that's much better, safer, more fruitful, more, fulfilling and mutual.’” “Self-actualization in certain formulations becomes an impossible goal. There are always ways we could be more together. And even if we're at peak altogetherness, challenges, including challenges in relationships, can make us feel less than whole. That's part of love.” “We still have responsibilities to each other. We have responsibilities to be clear. We have responsibilities to be responsive. And we have responsibilities to be kind.” “He wasn't a great boyfriend, but he made a great muse. And after we broke up, I really did sort of set myself on this program to become all these things that he embodied…In really a very short amount of time, the “what he was” became less important than the ways that I was embodying these qualities myself.”
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