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China vs the US: Kishore Mahbubani on a Zero-Sum Rivalry

34 min · 15 de may de 2026
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Beyond this week’s talks between Chinese President Xi Jinping and US President Donald Trump, there’s an epic tale that has been unfolding for decades. It’s a battle to be the world’s number one power and a much bigger story than the latest meeting of these two men.  Kishore Mahbubani is a former Singaporean diplomat who served as president of the United Nations Security Council. For two decades, he has argued that the West fundamentally misunderstands the rise of China and its challenge to American supremacy. Mahbubani. who eventually turned to academia, now specializes in governance and public policy. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, he traces the story behind the Xi-Trump talks, the handshakes and the social media posts–and what may lie ahead. Mahbubani also reveals how his own successes were made possible by Singapore’s remarkable growth. Read this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: www.bloomberg.com/ [http://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview]Mishal 03:34 - “The most important contest of our time” 5:50  - “It's not about personalities” 6:26 - “China can no longer be stopped” 07:28 - US versus China: It’s a “zero-sum” game 08:40 - Bill Clinton’s first meeting with Jiang Zemin 12:35 - Cold War Comparisons 18:30 - Growing up in Singapore in the 1950s 19:53 - "My mother never cracked” 26:25 - “China has become a tiger” 30:24 - US war is a “gift” to China Contact The Mishal Husain Show mishalshow@bloomberg.net Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

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