The Open Nesters

Evolution Intimacy

EVOLUTION, INTIMACY (S5 | E216) WITH LARA AND MICHAEL BLACKIN [TESSA] In this episode, I sit down with Lara and Michael Blackin, visionaries behind Temple in the Trees, a vibrant new community center located in Leesburg, Virginia. We delve deep into the philosophy of open nesting—a refreshing take on the empty nester experience, inviting listeners to redefine what this life stage can mean. The Blackins embrace a mindset of unfettered growth and exploration, highlighting how their mid-life journey has been full of new relationships, passions, and adventures. Evolution, Intimacy Lara and Michael share the inspiring story of how Temple in the Trees [https://ourtempleinthetrees.com/about/] came to fruition after a transformational tantric workshop. It began with a simple note passed between them, leading to a shared vision of a sanctuary dedicated to community and tantric learning. Over eight years, their home has blossomed into a beacon for like-minded individuals eager to explore intimacy, connection, and personal growth. We discuss the significance of community collaboration and how their authenticity has attracted a diverse network of people eager to learn, share, and grow together. EPISODE TIME CODE 1:13  Temple in the Trees 6:34 Finding Community 16:42 Navigating Estrangement 23:18 Coping with Vision Loss 28:33 Intimacy Through Challenges 31:09 Transition from Parent to Participant As we dive deeper into their personal journeys, Lara and Michael reflect on their blended family dynamics, parenting six children—from a 27-year-old to a high school senior—while navigating the complexities of sibling relationships and individual identities. They candidly address the challenges of estrangement within their family, particularly the difficult path of one of their sons who has stepped away. Through this heartfelt discussion, we explore themes of grief, acceptance, and the importance of honoring one’s personal journey while also nurturing connections. The conversation takes a poignant turn as we cover Lara’s struggles with her eyesight, a significant challenge she is currently facing due to a growth affecting her optic nerve. She eloquently describes her journey of adapting to this new reality, finding strength and creativity as she navigates what it means to experience vision—both physically and intuitively. Michael shares his perspective, discussing how their relationship has deepened through these trials and the ways their intimacy has evolved, emphasizing the power of connection beyond traditional notions of physicality. Fun-People-One [https://theopennesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Fun-People-One-150x150.jpg]We also touch on their recent move to New Orleans, where they are in the process of establishing a new branch of their community—Temple by the Water. Amidst the logistical challenges of a cross-town life, both Lara and Michael express excitement about laying down roots in a new city while continuing to foster their expansive community spirit. Their joint ambitions to host creative events and retreats speak to their commitment to artistic expression and personal development. Fun-People-Two [https://theopennesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Fun-People-Two-150x150.jpg]In wrapping up our conversation, the Blackins impart invaluable insights for listeners navigating their own life transitions. They challenge the notion of identity solely tied to parenthood, advocating instead for an embrace of individualism and active participation in life. The underlying message promotes a sense of participation and connection, encouraging everyone to cultivate relationships that nourish self, community, and family. This episode encapsulates the complex layers of transition, poignancy, and resilience that define the open nester experience. By embracing both joy and grief alike, Lara and Michael exemplify how life transitions can serve as catalysts for deeper self-discovery and collective growth. Their story is a testament to the beauty of forging meaningful connections—one that resonates deeply with anyone looking to redefine their journey in the face of change. RESOURCES FOR YOU FACEBOOK-GROUP-PAGE-LARGE-PEOPLE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 500 207'%2F%3E]https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853 We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page [https://theopennesters.com/open-nest-resources/] The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853] * * ask to join and we’ll let you in EVOLUTION-INTIMACY [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 1000 700'%2F%3E]https://ourtempleinthetrees.com/about/

Thank and Grow Rich (S5 | E215)

THANK AND GROW RICH (S5 | E215) WITH PAM GROUT THE BOOK “THANK & GROW RICH” IS FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN HOOKING UP WITH THE MAGNANIMOUS ENERGY FIELD OF THE COSMOS. AUTHOR PAM GROUT, WHO LIKES TO CALL HERSELF THE WARREN BUFFET OF HAPPINESS, SAYS IT ALL STARTS WITH GETTING ON THE FREQUENCY OF JOY AND GRATITUDE. THANK AND GROW RICH [TESSA] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve deep into the transformative power of gratitude and personal growth through a heartfelt interview with Pam Grout, the author of “Thank and Grow Rich.” As we explore themes of aging, spirituality, and resilience, I share my own journey of embracing the concept of open nesting—a belief that life is an ongoing adventure filled with endless possibilities, even as we navigate the complex emotions associated with empty nests. EPISODE TIME CODE 6:33 Coping with Loss 13:23 Embracing the Bigger Picture 26:47 Nature and Relationships 33:56 The Role of Support in Grief 45:18 Meaningful Vacations and Travel 47:28 Reflections on Motherhood and Friendship Pam and I discuss her profound insights inspired by her own life experiences, particularly the tragic loss of her daughter Tasman. This pivotal moment has reshaped her perspective, prompting her to reframe loss into a journey of gratitude. We highlight the importance of acknowledging grief while also recognizing the richness of life connections. Pamela elaborates on how gratitude does not have to be a simple checklist but rather a complex embrace of life’s paradoxes, allowing for feelings of joy, exhaustion, and everything in between. The conversation shifts to practical applications of gratitude in daily life. Pam introduces us to her AA 2.0 program, a unique gratitude practice in which participants send texts sharing blessings each day—encouraging mindfulness and fostering community. This practice nurtures a heightened awareness of our surroundings and opens doors to unexpected joy, reinforcing that even in difficult times, there is much to be thankful for. Additionally, Pam sheds light on her work with the 222 Foundation, a charitable initiative honoring her daughter’s legacy by supporting projects that promote creativity and conscious living. She emphasizes the interconnectedness of human experiences and how supporting one another can lead to profound healing. Whether it’s through engaging in nature, nurturing friendships, or forming supportive groups, the importance of connection as we navigate this stage of life is underscored. As we wrap up this enriching conversation, we reflect on the lessons learned throughout Pam’s journey and the universal truths that connect us all. This episode invites listeners to embrace the idea of open nesting by seeking new adventures, nurturing relationships, and continuously expressing gratitude—a message that resonates deeply with anyone looking to find meaning and connection in life’s transitions. RESOURCES FOR YOU FACEBOOK-GROUP-PAGE-LARGE-PEOPLE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 500 207'%2F%3E]https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853 We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page [https://theopennesters.com/open-nest-resources/] The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853] * * ask to join and we’ll let you in THANK-AND-GROW-RICH [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 1000 700'%2F%3E]https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/thank--grow-rich-a-30-day-experiment-in-shameless-gratitude-and-unabashed-joy_pam-grout/11569869/item/19791594/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_customer_acquisition_20982170636&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=689361939032&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20982170636&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45gD6m-a2_GatDcnRdke6YuI1&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L_JBhAlEiwAlcWO58Hp91AZh--O28Zol5fCp7ADLsSjn2YoA4cqfnRX5vK_fHmv5MKJtRoCUAEQAvD_BwE#idiq=19791594&edition=11109267

Give Thanks with Tessa and Amir (E5 | 214)

GIVE THANKS (S5 | E214) WITH TESSA AND AMIR In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve into the concept of open nesting, redefining what it means to be an empty nester. We explore the endless possibilities that arise when parents embrace new adventures, relationships, and passions. This week, as we approach Thanksgiving, we address the complexities of family dynamics, expectations, and the importance of gratitude during this unique holiday. GIVE THANKS WITH TESSA AND AMIR Thanksgiving serves as a focal point for families to gather, mending old conflicts and reinforcing bonds. We discuss how the holiday can bring underlying tensions to the surface, often challenging the notion of perfection in familial relationships. Rather than setting unrealistic expectations for harmonious gatherings, we emphasize the need for compassion, curiosity, and acceptance. By holding space for one another, we foster a supportive environment that encourages openness and understanding, particularly as adult children express new identities and beliefs. EPISODE TIME CODE 0:59 Thanksgiving Paradoxes 5:56 The Power of Gratitude 8:07 Navigating Heated Moments 10:49 Embracing Change in Thanksgiving 12:28 Estrangement Conversations 13:58 Unconditional Love and Family Bonds The conversation touches on the importance of actively listening to our adult children, recognizing their autonomy while still offering love and support. It’s essential to approach familial interactions with curiosity rather than judgment, creating a safe space for discussions—even if those discussions are challenging. Managing expectations is crucial, as acknowledging the natural tensions that arise during family gatherings can help navigate potentially divisive topics with grace and empathy. Give Thanks with Tessa and Amir [https://theopennesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-8.46.19-AM-1024x522.png] Gratitude plays a pivotal role in this episode, as we explore how it can transform family interactions during Thanksgiving. We discuss the difference between surface-level gratitude and a deeper acknowledgment of the meaningful aspects of our relationships. The idea of sharing what we appreciate about one another becomes a powerful tool for fostering connection and positivity within the family unit. Finding positivity should be a challenge and a goal on Thanksgiving. Give Thanks with Tessa and Amir [https://theopennesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Screenshot-2025-11-25-at-8.45.54-AM-1024x522.png] We also address the challenges of estrangement and the complex emotions that can accompany family gatherings. The importance of reaching out and attempting to bridge gaps is discussed, along with resources for parents navigating these difficult waters. We highlight the necessity of unconditional love and the patience required in rebuilding strained relationships. As we reflect on the ever-changing nature of family dynamics, we suggest incorporating humor and levity into Thanksgiving celebrations. The value of laughter, music, and inviting diverse perspectives into the conversation can create an atmosphere conducive to healing. We encourage families to establish boundaries that promote respectful dialogue while remaining flexible enough to adapt to the changing needs of adult children. Ultimately, we hope that this Thanksgiving serves as an opportunity for families to gather with love and gratitude, embracing the complexity of their relationships without the burden of unrealistic expectations. By showing up authentically and being open to the imperfections of family gatherings, we pave the way for meaningful connections and a deeper appreciation of one another. We invite our listeners to join our community as we continue to navigate this beautiful journey of open nesting together. RESOURCES FOR YOU FACEBOOK-GROUP-PAGE-LARGE-PEOPLE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 500 207'%2F%3E]https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853 We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page [https://theopennesters.com/open-nest-resources/] The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853] * * ask to join and we’ll let you in Give Thanks with Tessa and Amir [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 1024 415'%2F%3E]

The Permission to Desire with Dr. David Freeman (S5 | E213)

THE PERMISSION TO DESIRE (S5 | E213) WITH DR. DAVID FREEMAN In this episode, we continue our enlightening conversation with Dr. David Friedman, as we delve into the transformative journey of open nesting, vitality, spirituality, and the nuanced aspects of sexuality, including BDSM. As an open nester himself, David shares profound insights into how this life transition opens up new dimensions of exploration and personal growth. We navigate the complexities of changing relationships with adult children and the exciting possibilities that emerge when one embraces the open nesting philosophy, seeing it not as an end but as a beginning brimming with potential. THE-PERMISSION-TO-DESIRE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 300 300'%2F%3E] DR. DAVID FREEMAN EROTIC HEALER We discuss the multi-layered approach to open nesting, examining its psychological and emotional facets. David reflects on his own career shift from a respected PhD in engineering at MIT to a leading figure in the realm of sexuality and relationship coaching. This shift was not just professional for him; it was deeply personal, embodying the essence of vulnerability and the willingness to explore unfamiliar territory. He emphasizes the importance of community and connection, particularly in the context of aging, where reaching out and asking for help becomes a crucial skill. EPISODE TIME CODE 1:09 Vitality and BDSM 6:24 Community and Vulnerability 15:53 Transitioning to BDSM 28:59 Pleasure vs. Performance 43:34 Embracing Life Force The conversation naturally progresses to the themes of vitality and BDSM, where David articulates how his coaching helps to rejuvenate individuals’ senses of self and passion. Each person’s journey towards understanding their desires is unique, and he highlights the significance of creating a “permission field,” allowing individuals to explore and articulate what they truly want. This notion expands into a broader discussion about how curiosity and play are vital components of vitality and emotional well-being, particularly as individuals age. Through anecdotes including his own experiences with yoga and mindfulness, David conveys a poignant message: the journey to self-discovery is ongoing, and it is never too late to begin. We explore the therapeutic aspects of BDSM, where acts of play can evolve into profound relational dynamics that challenge and heal old wounds. Through the lens of BDSM, he elucidates the concepts of surrender and control, highlighting the transformative power of establishing trust and communication within relationships. David’s approach prioritizes safe and consensual interactions, underscoring the importance of aftercare in the BDSM practice. Aftercare serves as a beautiful counterpart to the intense experiences, ensuring that emotional and physical well-being are preserved. Listeners are provided with valuable insights on navigating grief, anger, and intimate relationships—transforming potential sources of distress into opportunities for connection and joy. Finally, the episode addresses the need to normalize conversations around BDSM, as it offers avenues for healing and deeper understanding of oneself and one’s partner, particularly for those in the empty nest phase. We encourage open discussions about desires, fears, and fantasies, as this dialogue fosters intimacy and connection. David invites listeners to reflect on their own appetites for exploration and to consider his workshops and retreats as spaces for further personal development. RESOURCES FOR YOU FACEBOOK-GROUP-PAGE-LARGE-PEOPLE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 500 207'%2F%3E]https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853 We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page [https://theopennesters.com/open-nest-resources/] The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853] * * ask to join and we’ll let you in The-Permission-to-Desire-Rope [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 1024 219'%2F%3E]

What Do Women Want? (S5 | E212)

WHAT DO WOMEN WANT? (S5 | E212) WITH VICKI LARSON WHAT DO WOMEN WANT? In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive deep into the world of open nesting with a returning guest, Vicki Larson, a researcher and writer who is flipping the script on aging for women. She challenges the stereotype that women over a certain age are invisible, irrelevant, or unworthy of vibrant experiences. Larson presents a powerful narrative that underscores the importance of curiosity, agency, and intention, advocating for a redefined vision of aging that’s far from bleak. EPISODE-WHAT-DO-WOMEN-WANT [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 300 300'%2F%3E] VICKI LARSON We revisit Larson’s groundbreaking work, “Not Too Old for That,” which seeks to change outdated perceptions of aging women. The discussion pivots to the significant demographic shift that will occur by 2030, where older people, particularly women, will outnumber children for the first time, thus raising essential questions about the future for this empowered group. Larson emphasizes the urgency of developing supportive frameworks and inclusive communities that embrace the realities and contributions of older women, allowing them to shape their narratives rather than being defined by societal norms. EPISODE TIME CODE 20:20  Explore More 37:32 The Power of Friendship 38:39 Living Apart Together 41:53 Closing Thoughts and Reflections The conversation also probes deeply into personal journeys and financial realities. Larson shares her own experience navigating financial independence post-divorce, which is a crucial aspect of this conversation. She reflects on the societal barriers that have historically impeded women’s financial literacy and security. With stark honesty, she recounts her awakening to the importance of taking charge of her financial future after a long period of being disengaged from the household finances. This revelation resonates on many levels, demonstrating the need for women to forge a strong financial identity that empowers them well into their later years. In another layer of the discussion, Larson unpacks the internal prejudices women face as they grow older, including societal pressures around beauty and desirability. She poignantly highlights the harmful impact of ageism and the need for women to create positive narratives about their aging. By showcasing examples of women who have reinvigorated their love lives and friendships later in life, Larson encourages women to reject the notion of being “too old” for romance or connection and instead embrace the abundant opportunities that mature relationships can offer. Throughout the episode, the emphasis remains on community and the importance of connecting with other women who share similar experiences. Larson advocates for cultivating a supportive network where women uplift one another, debunking stereotypes and fostering genuine connections across generations. The discussion culminates in a call for women to reflect on their perceptions and narratives surrounding aging, nurturing a mindset that honors their evolving identities without fear of societal judgments. Overall, this conversation is a treasure trove of insights and encouragement for anyone navigating the complexities of adulthood. It invites listeners to reconsider their views on aging, friendship, and love—all while embracing the wide range of experiences that life can offer, regardless of age. RESOURCES FOR YOU FACEBOOK-GROUP-PAGE-LARGE-PEOPLE [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 500 207'%2F%3E]https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853 We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page [https://theopennesters.com/open-nest-resources/] The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/362501288289853] * * ask to join and we’ll let you in [data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' viewBox%3D'0 0 1024 577'%2F%3E]