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We’ve been taught to trust SPF as the gold standard of sun protection—but what if that number isn’t as precise, or as reliable, as we think? In this episode of The Skincarma Pod, Carmine sits down with BeautyMatter journalist Janna Mandell to unpack one of the most unsettling questions in skincare today: can we actually trust SPF claims? Following her deeply reported investigation into sunscreen testing, Janna reveals a system shaped by human variability, lab inconsistencies, commercial pressure—and in some cases, outright manipulation. At the center of it all is a surprising truth: there is no such thing as a perfectly precise SPF number. From labs being given “target” results to brands unknowingly relying on flawed testing, this conversation explores the structural issues behind one of the beauty industry’s most trusted categories—and why accountability is far more complicated than it seems. This is not an anti-sunscreen conversation. It’s a reality check on how sunscreen works—and what it can (and can’t) promise. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why SPF is an estimate—not an exact number; How in vivo testing introduces variability—and opportunity for manipulation; What “too perfect” results reveal about faulty data; How brands, manufacturers, and labs share (and blur) responsibility; Why many brands and founders may not fully understand their own testing reports; Why lawsuits—not regulators—may be the real enforcement mechanism; Why SPF 30 vs. 50 differences are often less meaningful than consumers think; And, what actually matters: application, reapplication, and behavior—not just the number. Key takeaway: SPF isn’t a lie—but it’s far less precise, far more variable, and far more vulnerable to manipulation than most people realize. And while the system behind sunscreen may be flawed, the answer isn’t to stop using it—it’s to use it smarter. Connect with Janna on LinkedIn here [https://www.linkedin.com/in/janna-mandell/] and on Instagram at @janna_mandell_writer [https://www.instagram.com/janna_mandell_writer?igsh=cmJyZGh1Njh1eG03]. Explore her deeply sourced and insightful journalism for BeautyMatter here [https://beautymatter.com/authors/6162]. Publications in BeautyMatter by Janna Mandell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/janna-mandell/]: Is Everyone Lying About Their Spf Claims? It’s Complicated [https://beautymatter.com/articles/is-everyone-lying-about-their-spf] (Published April 7, 2026) The Real Sunscreen Scandal Isn’t In Australia. It’s In The Lab [https://beautymatter.com/articles/the-real-sunscreen-scandal-isnt-in-australia-its-in-the-lab] (Published October 3, 2025) “Big Sunscreen”: When Misinformation Fuels Extremist Conspiracy Theories [https://beautymatter.com/articles/big-sunscreen-when-misinformation-fuels-extremist-conspiracy-theories] (Published June 22, 2025) — Follow Skincarma on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/skincarma?igsh=d2JmemE3aXo0a3Fw&utm_source=qr] and on TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@skincarma?_t=ZT-8ubN2Gvz7xS&_r=1]. Catch product reviews of Carmine’s top picks of the best skincare on the Skincarma Blog. [http://www.skincarma.com] You can also connect with Carmine on Substack [https://skincarma.substack.com/podcast] and LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/carminemontalto/] – and explore his extensive work in beauty on the Carmine Montalto INK website here [https://www.cminknyc.com]. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate and/or leave a review on Apple Podcasts, [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-skincarma-pod/id1793186495] Substack [https://skincarma.substack.com/podcast], or Spotify [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7bGZdDAmYChhO1-WsRyu26PVGe9WFToy&si=H9AqKo1fDbAiToeA] to help Carmine reach more curious listeners. Product reviews on the Skincarma Blog: Explore the Best Sunscreens for Face here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-sunscreens-for-face]. Explore the Best Retinol Face Creams and Serums here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-retinol-face-creams-and-serums]. Explore the Best Vitamin C Serums here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-vitamin-c-serums-for-face]. Explore the Best Niacinamide Serums here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-brightening-serums-for-face-1]. Explore the Best Acne Treatments here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-acne-treatments]. Explore the Best Anti-Aging Creams and Serums here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-anti-aging-creams-and-serums]. Explore the Best Face Creams for Dry Skin here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-face-creams-dry-skin]. Explore the Best Face Creams for Oily Skin here [https://www.skincarmanyc.com/best-face-creams-oily-skin]. The Skincarma® Pod is where indie beauty meets fearless curiosity. Hosted by Carmine, his podcast pulls back the curtain on the beauty industry with sharp insights, candid interviews, and a healthy dose of irreverence. From deep dives into ingredient science to raw conversations with dermatologists, brand founders, and industry insiders, each episode is a no-BS exploration of what really matters in skincare: how to attain and maintain healthy skin. If you’re obsessed with products, passionate about transparency, and love calling out hype, this is the place to learn, question, and glow smarter. The Skincarma® Blog is written and curated by skinfluencer, skincare junkie and Brooklyn writer Carmine Montalto. With 25 years of expertise in beauty across every category, Carmine has helped build multiple consumer brands from the ground up. He’s named 100s of skincare, haircare & makeup products – some of which are probably in your bathroom cabinet right now! And, he’s tested 1,000s of products, the best of which can be found reviewed on his blog at skincarma.com. [https://www.skincarmanyc.com] With the right skincare routine including sunscreen...You CAN change your skin’s destiny!™ Get full access to Skincarma® at skincarma.substack.com/subscribe [https://skincarma.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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