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Brittany Trafis: AI Search as a New Channel Beyond SEO

37 min · 4 de may de 2026
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Discover how AI is transforming digital marketing strategies, from SEO shifts to innovative data management, with Brittany Trafis, a leader in AI-native marketing. Learn practical tips, industry insights, and the future outlook for small businesses navigating this rapidly evolving landscape. Follow the in-depth episode recap here [https://soariondigital.com/2026/05/05/ai-search-new-channel-beyond-seo/]. MAIN TOPICS COVERED: * Brittany Trafis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittanytrafis/]’ journey from graphic design to AI-first marketing agency [https://soariondigital.com/] * The impact of AI on search engine optimization and new digital channels * How small businesses can leverage AI Search as a competitive advantage * Technical and semantic updates needed for AI-native SEO * Innovations in AI tooling and workflows that streamline marketing efforts * Challenges around data transparency and measurement in AI-driven platforms * Practical strategies for integrating AI tools without losing human creativity * Industry trends, upcoming conferences, and Brittany’s advice for marketers

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