The Web3 Security Podcast
Most Web3 security conversations focus on smart contracts. Mudit Gupta, CTO of Polygon Labs, thinks that's the wrong place to be worried. In this episode, he makes the case that ZK infrastructure carries significantly more bugs than the smart contract layer — the reason large-scale exploits haven't happened yet isn't that the bugs don't exist, it's that the expertise required to exploit them is vanishingly rare. That window won't stay open forever. Beyond the ZK risk, Mudit breaks down the structural and operational decisions Polygon has made as AI shifts both sides of the security equation. Since August, their bug bounty program has seen a surge in reports on years-old code in geth and P2P libraries — the kind of retroactive review humans don't do — forcing them to build a counter-AI triaging system just to manage volume. He also details the two-team security structure most Web3 companies still don't run, and why the team most protocols skip is where the majority of Web3 incidents actually originate. Topics Discussed: * ZK infrastructure as the highest-vulnerability, lowest-exploitation surface in Web3 — more bugs than the smart contract layer, but the pool of people who can exploit them is small enough to count on two hands. Mudit's view: that expertise gap is the only thing standing between current ZK deployments and large-scale attacks * What a near 10x spike in bug bounty submissions since August reveals about how AI reviews code differently than humans — specifically its tendency to audit legacy code that human researchers have long stopped reviewing * Building a counter-AI triaging agent to handle report volume, including the case where it incorrectly closed a valid submission and how researcher pushback caught it * Why Polygon runs a dedicated security operations team alongside AppSec — and why the absence of a SecOps function is where most Web3 incidents actually begin * Embedding AppSec at the architecture stage rather than post-build, and how that shifts accountability from audit-and-flag to full product ownership of security outcomes * Sending an AI-generated deepfake video of Polygon's CEO to all employees as a phishing simulation — and why video-format tests caught people that standard phishing emails don't * Wednesday as the target release day: how the Monday-Tuesday verification window protects against deployment failures when external dependencies and client teams won't have weekend coverage * Security knowledge as a speed multiplier: how understanding your risk surface lets you move faster on acceptable risks — and how Mudit structures risk tracking and CEO-level reporting so leadership can hold context without blocking decisions
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