Episode 58: Self-Management vs. Self-Leadership

Episode 59: Spark of Divinity

In this episode, Bill and Marty continue their conversation about divinity, Self, and what it means to follow an inner compass. Bill shares how his Catholic upbringing, sobriety, AA, spiritual reading, and The Urantia Book shaped his relationship with God. Marty brings in his own path through church, agnosticism, and a powerful experience with an Indian guru. Together, they explore Self as something human, divine, or perhaps beyond both, and close with a practical way to live from higher values, true north, and the guidance found in discomfort. Chapters: 00:00 Doubt And True North 00:51 Self And Divinity Debate 03:31 Catholic Childhood Skepticism 05:05 Leaving Church Behind 07:20 AA And Higher Power Struggle 08:25 Christ In You Breakthrough 10:37 Christmas Sign And Coincidence 14:06 Books And Spiritual Seeking 16:25 Urantia Book Awakening 20:49 Seeing Life As Divine 24:52 Love As Evolution 26:40 Faith and Science Upbringing 27:21 Agnostic Phase in College 27:48 Meeting an Enlightened Guru 28:19 Lightning Bolt Awakening 30:09 Bhagavad Gita Parallel 31:26 Divya Diksha Explained 32:28 Ad Break Guidebook 32:50 Seeking Enlightenment and Fear 34:55 Smallness and Saint Thérèse 37:03 Living Christian Without Belief 40:20 Higher Power Within Values 42:11 Try It and Measure Results 43:52 Action Step Define Values 44:38 Freedom Without Wrath 46:56 True North Inner Compass 48:23 Calibrating Discomfort Signals 49:24 Closing Thanks and Takeaways Links and Resources: • True You Podcast Facebook Page -https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast [https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast] • True You Podcast Instagram Page -https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast [https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast] • Internal Family Systems -https://ifs-institute.com/ [https://ifs-institute.com/] • Compassionate Results Coaching -https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/ [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/] • Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com [https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/] • ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website -https://www.listeningisthekey.com/ [https://www.listeningisthekey.com/] • Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ -https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO [https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO] • Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ -https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd [https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd] • Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions -https://www.partsworkpractice.com [https://www.partsworkpractice.com/] • Contact Marty -mkettelhut@msn.com [mkettelhut@msn.com] • Contact Bill -bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com [bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com]

Episode 58: Self-Management vs. Self-Leadership

In this episode, Marty and Bill explore the difference between self-management and self-leadership. Bill explains how self-management can become exhausting inner conflict, especially when one part of us tries to control another. They connect this to addiction recovery, workplace dynamics, 12-step programs, IFS, ACA, and Byron Katie’s work. Together, they look at how self-awareness helps us move from control into compassion, choice, and deeper trust in the Self. Chapters: 00:00 Midweek Podcast Kickoff 01:00 Self-Management Defined 06:47 Leadership Versus Management 09:22 Addiction Recovery as Management 11:29 12-Step Origins and Limits 16:06 Higher Self and Self-Love 22:31 IFS Parts as Helpers 23:39 Leading Teams Like Parts 25:30 Motivation Questions at Work 27:44 Motivation Builds Trust 29:06 From Reactivity to Growth 31:34 Challenging Limiting Thoughts 35:27 Why Self-Awareness Is Hard 38:24 Blind Spot Lunch Story 40:48 Self-Leadership in Practice 43:11 Freedom, Choice, and Beauty 46:44 Wrap-Up and Inner Spark Links and Resources: • True You Podcast Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast [https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast] • True You Podcast Instagram Page https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast [https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast] • Would you like to be a guest on the True You Podcast? https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey [https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey] • Internal Family Systems https://ifs-institute.com/ [https://ifs-institute.com/] • Compassionate Results Coaching https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/ [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/] • Bill’s book, Compassionate Results Guidebook https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com [https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com] • Listening is the Key, Dr. Kettelhut’s website https://www.listeningisthekey.com/ [https://www.listeningisthekey.com/] • Marty’s new book, Leadership as Relation https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO [https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO] • Marty’s earlier book, Listen… Till You Disappear https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd [https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd] • Parts Work Practice, Free IFS Practice Group Sessions https://www.partsworkpractice.com [https://www.partsworkpractice.com] • Contact Marty mkettelhut@msn.com • Contact Bill bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com 🔗 Compassionate Results Coaching links: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/links [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/links] ➡️ To learn more about the Internal Family Systems Model, visit: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/about-ifs [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/about-ifs] ➡️ Join the Parts Work Practice Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice [https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice] 🔗 Parts Work Practice page: https://www.partsworkpractice.com/ [https://www.partsworkpractice.com/] 📖 Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: http://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/ [http://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/] ➡️ Attend IFS Coaching Groups: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/coaching-groups [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/coaching-groups] 📞 Take the Coaching Readiness Assessment: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/contact [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/contact] 🎙️ Listen to True You Podcast at: https://trueyoupodcast.com [https://trueyoupodcast.com] Available on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube!

Episode 57: Geoff Laughton

In this episode, Bill and Marty welcome back relationship coach and Building a Conflict-Proof Relationship author Geoff Laughton to discuss how inner conflict shapes relationships and the world around us. Geoff shares spiritual insights on grief, humility, and peace, while the conversation explores why love alone isn’t enough to sustain a partnership. Together, they unpack emotional maturity, personal responsibility, the myth of “you complete me,” and the healing work required to build lasting, healthy relationships. About Geoff: Geoff Laughton is a men’s leadership and relationship speaker focused on accountability, conscious partnership, and emotional maturity. With more than 30 years of experience working with men and couples, he helps men become fully present partners, fathers, and leaders—without shame or performative masculinity. Geoff is the co-founder of Undaunted Man, a decade-long men’s organization rooted in brotherhood, integrity, and authentic personal evolution. Contact Geoff: Website: www.theundauntedman.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/geofflaughton Facebook: www.linkedin.com/ln/geofflaughton Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheUndauntedMan Chapters: 00:00 Love Is Not Enough 00:47 Meet The Hosts 02:31 Geoff’s Spiritual Download 11:20 Love As The Ante 14:44 Commitment Over Longevity 22:20 Bill’s Marriage Lessons 27:08 Limerence And Fantasy 32:29 Stop Making Partners Everything 35:24 Own Your Stuff 41:04 Inner Peace And Responsibility 44:50 Wrap Up And Resources 🔗 Compassionate Results Coaching links: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/links ➡️ To learn more about the Internal Family Systems Model, visit https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/about-ifs ➡️Join the Parts Work Practice Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice 🔗 Parts Work Practice page: https://www.partsworkpractice.com/ 📖 Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: http://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/ ➡️Attend IFS Coaching Groups: https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/coaching-groups 📞Take the Coaching Readiness Assessment, go to https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/contact 🎙️Listen to True You Podcast at https://trueyoupodcast.com available on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube! #recovery #ifs #internalfamilysystems #ifscoach #ifscoaching #ifsmodel #partswork #partsworkcoach

Episode 56: Jake Turner

In this episode, Marty and Bill welcome coach and podcaster Jake Turner, who works with founders and executives on time, boundaries, communication, and mindset. Jake shares why coaches should have coaches, how his first coach shaped a whole-life approach, and why alignment creates energy while misalignment creates chaos. They discuss the Mexican fisherman parable from Tim Ferriss and the cost of postponing life, plus the power of gratitude and attention, including Bill’s 11-year daily gratitude practice and Jake’s “today’s a good day” mirror routine and phone-free morning system. About Jake: Doctorate in nurse anesthesia, professionally certified life coach. From Nashville area. Coach founders and executives to be more productive, get hours of their time back, and build a life they don't need a vacation from. Contact Jake: Website: jakepaulturner.com [http://jakepaulturner.com] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakepaulturner/ [https://www.instagram.com/jakepaulturner/] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jake.turner.31/ [https://www.facebook.com/jake.turner.31/] Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@jakepaulturner [https://www.youtube.com/@jakepaulturner] Links and Resources: • True You Podcast Facebook Page -https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast [https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast] • True You Podcast Instagram Page -https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast [https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast] • Would you like to be a guest on the True You Podcast? - https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey [https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey] • Internal Family Systems -https://ifs-institute.com/ [https://ifs-institute.com/] • Compassionate Results Coaching -https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/ [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/] • Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com [https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/] • ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website -https://www.listeningisthekey.com/ [https://www.listeningisthekey.com/] • Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ -https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO [https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO] • Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ -https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd [https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd] • Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions -https://www.partsworkpractice.com [https://www.partsworkpractice.com/] • Contact Marty -mkettelhut@msn.com [mkettelhut@msn.com] • Contact Bill -bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com [bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com]

Episode 55: On Being Neurodivergent with Morgan Monte

In this episode, Bill and Marty interview Morgan Monte, an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Level 3 practitioner and co-author of the Parts Work Guidebook, joined by her Labradoodle Finn. Morgan shares recognizing her neurodivergence in elementary school through social misunderstandings like sarcasm and unspoken context, and how that affected communication during the three-plus-year, five-author book project. They discuss how group ruptures and frustration were repaired by using IFS, including Bill’s “get it done” part becoming controlling and Morgan’s “I don’t belong because I’m different” part withdrawing. Morgan describes IFS training challenges mainly as performance anxiety and fear of evaluation, and how IFS helped her access more Self energy, confidence, clarity, and authenticity. Chapters: 00:00 Impossible Collaboration 00:59 Meet Morgan and Finn 01:49 Book and Bio Intro 02:49 Locations and Small Talk 04:29 Discovering Neurodivergence 08:47 Mismatch and Breakthroughs 12:48 Learning Sarcasm 16:39 IFS and Neurodivergent Strengths 20:04 Training Anxiety 21:54 Autism Or ADHD 25:05 Labels And Motivation 28:13 Teamwork Speed Mismatch 31:58 Guidebook Excerpts 36:23 Similarities And Big Hearts 39:46 IFS Works For Everyone 40:52 Finding Self Energy 41:44 Closing And Thanks Links and Resources: • Parts Work Guidebook - https://partsworkguidebook.com [https://partsworkguidebook.com] • True You Podcast Facebook Page [https://partsworkguidebook.com/]-https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast [https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast] • True You Podcast Instagram Page -https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast [https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast] • Would you like to be a guest on the True You Podcast? - https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey [https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey] • Internal Family Systems -htt [https://calendly.com/listeningisthekey]ps://ifs-institute.com/ [https://ifs-institute.com/] • Compassionate Results Coaching -https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/ [https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/] • Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com [https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com/] • ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website -https://www.listeningisthekey.com/ [https://www.listeningisthekey.com/] • Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ -https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO [https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO] • Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ -https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd [https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd] • Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions -https://www.partsworkpractice.com [https://www.partsworkpractice.com/] • Contact Marty -mkettelhut@msn.com [mkettelhut@msn.com] • Contact Bill -bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com [bill@compassionateresultscoaching.com]