I'm Not Building a Business. I'm Building People.

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PODCAST DESCRIPTION Most business owners say they're building a company. Chuck Bomar says he's building people and using a company to do it. That one shift changes everything — who you hire, why you stay up at night, and what success actually looks like when you close your eyes. Chuck is a pastor, entrepreneur, author, and former President and CEO of Barna Group. He's bought and operated over a dozen companies across delivery, transportation, commercial mechanics, and in-home care. He's also had a partner commit fraud and land in prison. He's sold companies back to the people who ran them for what he originally paid — not what they'd grown to be worth. And now he's written a book that brings all of it together. We talk about what it looks like to run a business from a faith framework that isn't just a label, why economic mobility is the fastest path to social mobility, and how Chuck went from living rooms full of disoriented pastors to a book that finally gave language to what they were all feeling. What We Learned * Building a business around people instead of using people to build a business is a completely different operating system — and it shows in retention, loyalty, and culture * Caring for the whole person at work isn't a charity project; it's a strategy that creates the kind of trust most companies spend years trying to manufacture * Selling a company back to the person who grew it — at your original purchase price — is one of the most tangible ways to break a cycle of generational poverty * When your faith is decoupled from your business model, you don't sleep as well. Integration creates a settling that performance alone can't * There's a weariness in church leaders that sleep doesn't fix — and it's not a strategy problem, it's a language problem. Most of them don't have words for what they're sensing * The best ideas don't start as books. Chuck's started as a stick of dynamite dropped in living rooms full of pastors — and a guilt trip that made him write it down Resources Mentioned * Pivot Now: Mastering Change for the Sake of Our Mission [https://www.amazon.com/Pivot-Now-Mastering-Change-Mission/dp/B0GMQSS4RV] by Chuck Bomar — Chuck's new book giving pastors and ministry leaders language for the cultural shift happening around them and a framework for leading their organizations through change without compromising the mission. * Convoy of Hope [https://convoyofhope.org] — The humanitarian organization Chuck partnered with to bring his framework on church change to pastors across the country. One of the largest disaster relief organizations in the world, with a facility capable of producing a billion meals a year. Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.com [https://soundofarose.com]

How to Lead People Through Change Without Losing Your Mind | Chuck Bomar

The world is changing faster than any organization can keep up with. The question isn't whether to adapt — it's whether you have a framework for it, or whether you're just reacting until you burn out. Chuck Bomar is back for part two. This time we go deep on the framework behind his new book Pivot Now — what's actually happening culturally and socially that's leaving leaders disoriented, why the old models for understanding how people relate to faith and identity no longer hold, and what leaders in churches and businesses need to do differently before they inadvertently strangle their own mission trying to protect their methods. We also talk about why your team shuts down when you ideate out loud, the difference between ideas and vision, why clarity beats hustle every time, and what it actually looks like to lead people through complexity without adding to their anxiety. This episode is for any leader who's felt the ground shifting and isn't sure whether to hold on tighter or let go. What We Learned * We can't keep up with the pace of change, but we can become change-ready — and those are completely different postures * Algorithmic curation has created a decoupled, fragmented society where identity, beliefs, practices, and affiliations no longer hold together the way they used to — and that person is walking through your doors every day * When you conflate truth with method, you risk choking your mission trying to protect your model * Clarity is greater than hustle — leaders who can't clearly articulate the why behind a change shouldn't say anything yet * Ideating around too many people is one of the most common and costly leadership mistakes — people treat your brainstorm like it's vision * Tying any change announcement to mission first is one of the most disarming and effective leadership moves available to you * Participation does not equal transformation — and finishing a process doesn't either * The tighter you hold on to your methods, the more at risk your mission becomes Resources Mentioned * Pivot Now: Mastering Change for the Sake of Our Mission [https://www.amazon.com/Pivot-Now-Mastering-Change-Mission/dp/B0GMQSS4RV] by Chuck Bomar — The book behind this entire conversation. A framework for understanding what's happening culturally, how to lead your organization through change without losing the mission, and why staying the same might be the biggest threat you face. * Death by Lightning [https://www.netflix.com/title/81707819] — Netflix miniseries Tim mentions he's been watching, based on the life and assassination of President James Garfield. * Destiny of the Republic [https://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Republic-Madness-Medicine-President/dp/0767929713] by Candice Millard — The book the Netflix series is based on. Tim is currently reading it. The story of James Garfield's rise from poverty to the presidency and the dramatic events that followed. * Fire Within [https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Within-Teresa-Gospel-Prayer/dp/0898702631] by Fr. Thomas Dubay — Chuck's current read. A deep dive into the prayer lives of St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross, and what their commitment to personal connection with God looks like for any Christian. * Convoy of Hope [https://convoyofhope.org] — Humanitarian organization mentioned in passing from Chuck's Part 1 story. One of the largest disaster relief organizations in the world. Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.com [https://soundofarose.com]

19 de may de 202636 min

I'm Not Building a Business. I'm Building People. | Chuck Bomar

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