The Best Ever CRE Show

JF 4120: Bigger Checks, Better Terms and Less Stress ft. Maria Zondervan

Richard McGirr interviews Maria Zondervan, a fund-of-funds operator who pivoted from a career as an endangered-species wildlife biologist into multifamily investing after realizing she needed to build legacy wealth for her special-needs son. Maria explains why she disliked directly operating multifamily and instead built a model where she partners with other fund managers to write larger checks, negotiate better tiers/terms, and put more “eyes on the deal” during due diligence. She also breaks down how her group manages risk and investor expectations—doing fewer, higher-quality equity deals and leaning on an income fund for liquidity—plus how she qualifies investors to avoid placing “all their savings” into illiquid syndications. Finally, Maria shares her investor lead-gen approach: primarily in-person education and speaking, with social media used mostly to stay top-of-mind rather than as a primary acquisition channel. Maria Zondervan Current role: CEO, Blue Vikings Capital Based in: Orlando, Florida Say hi to them at: https://www.bluevikingscapital.com/ | [https://www.bluevikingscapital.com/] https://linktr.ee/bluevikingscapital Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com [http://www.monarchmoney.com/XXXX] with code BESTEVER Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ [https://www.besteverconference.com/]  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠ [http://www.bestevercommunity.com/]⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ [https://www.outlieraudio.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

JF 4119: Recession Edge, Millennial Spending Wave and a New CRE Cycle Ahead with John Chang

John Chang shares a solo market update from ICSC New York City, outlining what he’s hearing from top researchers and brokers across the retail real estate world. He breaks down why uncertainty and slower job growth are stretching decision-making, while consumer debt headlines look less alarming when viewed against income levels, savings/money market balances, and delinquency trends. He also highlights tailwinds from millennials moving into prime earning/spending years and notes retail’s leadership in the NCREIF total return index. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com [http://www.monarchmoney.com/XXXX] with code BESTEVER Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ [https://www.besteverconference.com/]  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠ [http://www.bestevercommunity.com/]⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ [https://www.outlieraudio.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

JF 4118: Depreciation Recapture, 1031 Exchanges and Opportunity Zone Strategies ft. Yonah Weiss

John Casmon interviews Yonah Weiss, a cost segregation expert known as the “Cost Seg King,” about how cost segregation works as an advanced form of depreciation and why it can be a powerful cash-flow tool for real estate investors. They break down who benefits most, plus other scenarios like the short-term rental “loophole” and income-based exceptions that can allow depreciation to offset active income. Yonah also explains depreciation recapture in plain English and shares common strategies investors use to defer or reduce tax impact at sale, including 1031 exchanges and Opportunity Zones. Finally, they shift into marketing—why Yonah built his brand on LinkedIn through consistency and real engagement, and why in-person networking is still hard to beat. Yonah Weiss Current role: Regional Business Director, Madison SPECS Based in: New York City, New York Say hi to them at: https://www.yonahweiss.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/yonahweiss/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cost-segregation-yonah-weiss/ | https://twitter.com/YonahWeiss | https://yonahweiss.madisonspecs.com/ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com [http://www.monarchmoney.com/XXXX] with code BESTEVER Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ [https://www.besteverconference.com/]  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠ [http://www.bestevercommunity.com/]⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ [https://www.outlieraudio.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

JF 4117: Public-Private Partnerships, Industrial Growth and Urban Revitalization ft. Lindsay Greene

Matt Faircloth interviews Lindsay Greene about how the Brooklyn Navy Yard evolved from a historic shipyard into a modern 300-acre industrial ecosystem that now houses 550+ businesses. Lindsay explains the Yard’s transformation—from 1800s wooden-ship buildings to today’s mix of TV/film soundstages, food manufacturers, tech incubators, and light industrial tenants—while highlighting its deep legacy as a hub of jobs, innovation, and opportunity. She walks Matt through how public-private partnerships power their redevelopment model, including layered capital stacks, long-term ground leases, and collaborative fit-out financing. Finally, she outlines the Yard’s future plans for new multi-story industrial buildings, mid-scale manufacturing space, and opportunities for private developers or investors who want to partner on underutilized sites. Lindsay Greene Current role: President & CEO, Brooklyn Navy Yard Development Corporation Based in: Brooklyn, New York Say hi to them at: https://www.brooklynnavyyard.org/ [https://www.brooklynnavyyard.org/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lsgreene] Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com [http://www.monarchmoney.com/XXXX] with code BESTEVER Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ [https://www.besteverconference.com/]  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠ [http://www.bestevercommunity.com/]⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ [https://www.outlieraudio.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

JF 4116: Multifamily Meltdown Risks, Operator Red Flags, and Today’s Opportunities ft. Rod Khleif

Pascal Wagner interviews Rod Khleif, a 40-year investor who has owned thousands of units and trained operators responsible for more than 260,000 multifamily doors. Rod breaks down today’s confusing multifamily environment, explaining why conservative underwriting, realistic assumptions, and deep operator due diligence matter more than ever. He shares the biggest mistakes GPs are currently making—from aggressive rent growth assumptions to risky debt structures—and outlines the practical questions every LP must ask before wiring money. Rod also highlights where he sees distress, opportunity, and risk heading into the next cycle. Rod Khleif Current role: Founder, Lifetime Cashflow Through Real Estate Investing; Multifamily Investor & Educator Based in: Sarasota, Florida Say hi to them at: https://rodslinks.com [https://rodslinks.com] | https://www.youtube.com/@RodKhleif | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodkhleif/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodkhleif/] Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com [http://www.monarchmoney.com/XXXX] with code BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ [https://www.besteverconference.com/]  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠ [http://www.bestevercommunity.com/]⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ [https://www.outlieraudio.com?utm_source=chatgpt.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]