Episode 27 - Conversations with Trish Haight - From Object to Human (Part 1)

Episode 33 - Conversations with Rhian Kivits - The Recovery Compass

In this episode, Chris is joined by UK-based sex and relationship therapist and Certified DST Therapist Rhian Kivits. Together they explore the often-overlooked experiences of betrayed partners navigating the traumatic impact of deceptive sexuality. Drawing on her background in relationship therapy, narcissistic abuse work, and the Deceptive Sexuality Trauma (DST) model, Rhian explores why traditional approaches to couples therapy can sometimes leave betrayed partners feeling further disempowered, and why validation, psychoeducation, and reclaiming one's voice are such important parts of the healing process. She also introduces her new Recovery Compass programme, which helps women navigating the pain of betrayal find greater clarity, stability, and self-connection through a DST-informed approach. For more information about the Recovery Compass programme, please visit: https://go.betrayalprescription.com/recoverycompass You can also find out more about Rhian and her work at: https://rhiankivits.co.uk/

Episode 32 - Conversations with Duane Osterlind - Shame Resilience

In this episode, Chris is joined by Duane Osterlind for a conversation exploring the role of shame in the healing process. Together, they examine how shame can quietly disrupt progress—particularly in men who are genuinely trying to repair after betrayal—often blocking empathy, emotional connection, and meaningful change. They also explore the concept of shame resilience, the patterns that emerge when shame goes unrecognised, and what it takes to move beyond those barriers toward deeper connection and repair. You can find more information about Duane Osterlind and his Shame to Resilience program here: https://www.shametoresilience.com/

Episode 31 - The 22 Rooms (Part 3)

In this episode, Chris continues exploring “The 22 Rooms.” Following the covert phase and the exposure phase covered in earlier episodes, this third part focuses on the symptom progression phase - how the impact of the trauma develops over time. He explores the deep triadic core symptoms that might develop, the relational patterns that often emerge, and the longer-term psychological impacts of rebuilding one's reality following betrayal.

Episode 30 - The 22 Rooms (Part 2)

In this episode, Chris continues exploring “The 22 Rooms.” Part one focused on the covert phase of deceptive sexuality. In this second part, he turns to the exposure phase - when the hidden reality of the secret sexual basement is either discovered or disclosed. He examines the acute reality fragmentation that can occur at this stage, along with the associated attachment injury, before exploring the traumatic symptoms that often follow.

Episode 29 - The 22 Rooms (Part 1)

In this episode, Chris beings exploring “The 22 Rooms” — a key clinical framework within the DST model. Whilst the rooms have been mentioned on various occasions, this marks the first in a series of episodes dedicated to exploring the framework in more depth. The first instalment begins by explaining the core metaphor of the rooms and then examines the first three, which represent the covert phase of deceptive sexuality trauma.