Episode 5 - Quitter’s Day: When Athletes Quit Loud (and We Don’t)

Episode 14 - Before the Next Chapter: How We're Evolving

When we started He Said, Son Said, we thought we were creating a sports podcast. Fourteen episodes later, we've realized it's become something much bigger. In this special episode, we take you behind the scenes to share what we've learned, reflect on the conversations that have shaped us, and explain why the show is evolving. Along the way, we talk about our favorite guests, what goes into producing each episode, and how one interview changed our perspective forever. That realization inspired the next chapter of He Said, Son Said—one focused even more on the stories, relationships, and life lessons that sports make possible. You'll also get a first look at what's ahead with On Their Turf, Pull Up a Chair, and Riding Shotgun, along with a preview of upcoming conversations with Ashanti Johnson, Rex & Sadie Miller, Marisa & Timothy Ridgeway, and the Robinson family. Whether you've been with us since Episode 1 or you're joining us for the first time, thank you for being part of this journey. Because we thought we were building a sports podcast. Turns out, we were building something much bigger. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.

Episode 13 - From Brazil to Building Better Athletes and Even Better People

He left home at 15 to chase his dream. What he found was a calling far greater than the game. When Matt and Nash sat down with Pedro Henrique Verissimo, they expected a conversation about soccer. What they discovered was a story about courage, purpose, family, faith, and the unexpected paths that shape our lives. Pedro shares what it was like growing up in Brazil as the son of a professional soccer player, leaving home at just 15 years old to pursue his dream, and how that journey eventually led him to North Carolina. Today, as the founder of Quadra Soccer, he's using the game to do far more than develop athletes—he's building a community where young people and families can grow together. One moment from the conversation captures it perfectly: "Soccer isn't just my passion anymore... it's my ministry." In this episode, we discuss: * 🇧🇷 Growing up in Brazil and leaving home at 15 * ⚽ Chasing the dream of playing professional soccer * 🏟️ Building Quadra Soccer and a thriving community * 👨‍👦 Fatherhood, leadership, and the influence of family * ❤️ Finding purpose beyond wins and losses This conversation is a reminder that while sports may open the door, the most meaningful stories are about the people we become along the journey. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.

Episode 12 - More Than Football: Vision, Leadership & Purpose with Tommy Jones

In Episode 12 of He Said, Son Said, Matt sits down with Tommy Jones—former University of Michigan football player, mentor, coach, and founder of Growth4Life—for a conversation that starts with football but quickly becomes about something much bigger. Tommy shares the journey that shaped his life, from relentlessly pursuing his dream of playing at Michigan to dedicating his career to helping young people become stronger leaders, teammates, and adults. Together they explore: • Why vision matters before success ever arrives • The resilience required to overcome adversity • Leadership lessons that apply far beyond sports • The role parents and coaches play in shaping character • Why attitude and effort remain the two things we can always control One quote from the conversation captures the entire episode: "The dream is a seed. Then you decide if it's worthy enough to pursue." Whether you're an athlete, coach, parent, leader, or someone chasing a dream of your own, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about success—and about the person you're becoming. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation. 🎙️ New episodes every week.

Episode 11 - Father's Day Special

Father's Day gave us a reason to hit pause and reflect on something bigger than scores, standings, and championships. In this special episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash talk about the sports memories that shaped their relationship—from meeting sports heroes and attending unforgettable games to the lessons learned through winning, losing, and growing up together. They discuss: * Their favorite sports memories together * What losing has taught them about life * The responsibilities that come with growing up * The challenges and excitement of becoming an adult * Traditions they hope to keep for years to come * What they appreciate most about each other It's a conversation about family, perspective, and the bond that's been built through sports over the years. Because sometimes sports start the conversation, but family becomes the real story.

Episode 10 - Looking Back, Looking Ahead

After a two-month hiatus and a quick turnaround from Episode 9, Matt and Nash are back behind the mic for a father-son catch-up session. The duo reflects on the last 90 days, including Matt's knee replacement recovery, Nash's journey through basketball, driving, and finding joy in the things that matter most. They also share key takeaways from their recent conversation with Brayleigh and Christiaan, including powerful lessons about resilience, parenting, and learning from mistakes. Along the way, they discuss summer goals, dream podcast guests, favorite sports memories, and wrap things up with a lightning round featuring everything from Bojangles vs. Chick-fil-A to LeBron vs. Jordan. In this episode: * Matt's knee replacement recovery and lessons in patience * Nash on basketball, driving, and finding joy * Reflections on Episode 9 with Brayleigh and Christiaan * Summer goals and what's ahead for the podcast * Favorite sports memories and dream guests * A fun lightning round of sports and life hot takes Sometimes the best conversations happen when it's just a dad and his son sitting behind a microphone. 🎙️ He Said, Son Said — Two generations. One mic. Way too many opinions.