Double Date! PART TWO with Jake & Maisy and Nick & Kim

Run Away to the Circus with Alaina Calliope Lucille

Jake and Maisy sit down with Alaina Calliope Lucille, a clown and drag performer who takes us through her 15-year journey with clowning, from locking herself in the bathroom to learn makeup as a kid; through clown college in her early twenties; marriage, family, and transition; and up to her current career as a drag clown. We chat about the intersection between clowning and drag, how gender affects clowning, and how Calliope has found her home in the clown community. If you fell in love with Calliope like we did, here's where you can find and support her: @alainacalliopelucille [https://www.instagram.com/alainacalliopelucille/] Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini Clips: * May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications * The Thing (1982) * Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"

You're a Clown, Get Over It with Uncle Stepdad the Clown

"You're a clown, get over it!" Uncle Stepdad walked us through his clowning journey, telling us about his clown found family, battling imposter syndrome and insecurity, and how clowning can be a way to hold a mirror up to society. We also chat about how finding your clown can be a reflection of your truest, most unguarded self. Uncle Stepdad has become a wonderful irl friend for us through this podcast, so this episode is particularly fun because he and Jake spend the whole interview messing with each other and trying to make each other laugh. We had a really good time and I think it shows through in the episode. If you fell in love with Uncle Stepdad like we did, here's where you can find and support him: @unclestepdad1979 Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini Clips: * May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications * The Thing (1982) * Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"

Happy as a Clown with Mother Lucy Goose the Clown

Mother Lucy Goose sits down with Jake and Nick to tell them all about her clowning journey and how it helped her reconnect with herself and laugh again after a bad time in her life. She also discussed the online versus in-person clown communities, advice for people looking to get into clowning, the differences between clown styles, and how to use clowning to fight back against oppression and connect with the people in your community better. If you fell in love with Lucy Goose like we did, here's where you can find and support her: https://linktr.ee/motherlucygoose [https://linktr.ee/motherlucygoose] Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini Clips: * May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications * The Thing (1982) * Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"

Whimsy-Maxxing with Cait the Clown

Now that we've laid the foundation for what the clown community is and some of the benefits it can provide its members, we wanted to talk with some actual clowns and get their perspective! Jake and Maisy sit down with Cait the Clown: professional children's clown, emotional support clown, and possibly the nicest person on the internet. We discuss the clowning journey, how she built her local community in Massachusetts, and the online versus in-person clowning community. You can also expect to hear a lot about how silliness and tomfoolery can be powerful tools for resistance and change in the face of oppression. If you fell in love with Cait like we did, here's where you can find and support her: https://linktr.ee/caittheclown [https://linktr.ee/caittheclown] Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini Clips: * May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications * The Thing (1982) * Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"

Community Spotlight: Clowns

Making Friends is all about friendship and communities, and we've talked a lot about friendship, so let's get into the communities. For our very first community spotlight episode, we dug into the history of clowns and how clowns come together to help each other and the world as a whole. Clowns are silly, but don't fall into the trap of not taking them seriously - clowns can teach us a lot about how to be better friends and better people in general. Music: Friends (Instrumental) - Whodini Clips: * May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications * The Thing (1982) * Ms. Rachel - "Learn About Emotions and Feelings"