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Why Are There So Many Interpretations of the Bible and What Should We Do About It?

[https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56b23a868a65e24fb5da70bb/d135d821-48c3-472d-b560-6da78f21f6ed/OON+m6w1+Thumbnail+Template.psd.png?format=1000w] Why Are There So Many Interpretations of the Bible and What Should We Do About It? Paul Sadler Recently, I had a comment from a listener on the difference between how Catholics and Protestants view the Bible. They said, “If you give the same Bible to two billion people and tell them to interpret it for themselves, won’t they come up with more than two billion interpretations?” They then explained that the Catholic solution to this problem is the Pope, the successor of Peter, who is elected by cardinals who are in turn inspired by the Holy Spirit in their election of him. I’d like to consider the problem that the listener raises and the solution that he offers. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE? For the person unfamiliar with the Bible, it's worth stating clearly that Christians agree on far more than they disagree. The great central truths of who God is, what Christ accomplished on the cross, and the reality of eternal life and judgment are not where the disagreements live. On the things that matter most, the unity is remarkable. There are disagreements, however, and the Bible itself explains where they come from. 1. SOME PASSAGES ARE HARDER TO UNDERSTAND While much of the Bible can be readily understood, some passages take more work to understand. Peter, for example, said of Paul’s letters: “There are some things in them that are hard to understand” (2 Peter 3:16). One thinks also of the Ethiopian eunuch who was reading the scroll of Isaiah when Philip asked whether he understood what he was reading. In Acts 8:31, he replied, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” Much of the excitement in rewatching a movie by Christopher Nolan or Martin Scorsese, for example, comes in seeing things you missed the first time and enjoying the depth in the layers of meaning. The Bible is a book that God has given us to read and reread for the rest of our lives. We shouldn’t be surprised that we don’t understand it all the first time we open it. 2. BIBLICAL ILLITERACY MAKES PEOPLE VULNERABLE TO ERROR Jesus confronted people who had different ideas about many things that He did. Repeatedly, He challenged them with the words, “Have you not read …?” and then pointed to Scriptures they were obviously ignorant of (Matthew 12:3, 5; 21:42; 22:31). The less you read the Bible, the more likely you will be to draw wrong conclusions about it. 3. FALSE TEACHERS EXPLOIT AREAS THAT ARE UNCLEAR Just as the serpent tried to sow doubt in Adam and Eve’s understanding of God’s words, the Bible warns, and history shows, that false teachers have been doing this since the beginning. 2 Peter 2:1 warns, “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies…” The fewer people who understand what the Bible says, the easier it is for false teachers to confuse them. 4. SIN DISTORTS OUR READING OF THE BIBLE I wish we could blame all of the different interpretations on the Bible’s complexity or on false teachers. Unfortunately, however, we’re part of the problem. The Bible makes it clear that sin distorts our reading of God’s Word. Paul said, for instance, that some people don’t “accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them” (1 Corinthians 2:14). Jesus said something similar in John 8:43, “Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.” The Bible isn’t like a Geography textbook. It makes spiritual and moral demands on us that we often try to avoid. The stubborn resistance of sin makes us twist Scriptures that God has made clear. What sounds like a different interpretation is sometimes just a sinful denial of God’s truth. WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT THE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE? The Catholic solution to the different interpretations of Scripture is the Pope. In the words of the listener, he’s “the ultimate interpreter.” That sounds like an attractive solution. It would be wonderful to have someone who could arbitrate every disagreement and perfectly interpret every passage. The problem is that Scripture never teaches that there is such a person. In fact, in Scripture, the people in the top positions of religious authority can sometimes be completely wrong. Think of Jesus’ interaction with Nicodemus. He was an elite Pharisee and member of the Sanhedrin, yet Jesus said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?” (John 3:10) Just trusting that the person at the top is always right might provide unity, but it can’t avoid error. The Protestant solution has been to make Scripture the ultimate authority, and to encourage all believers to do what the Bereans did, “examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so” (Acts 17:11), but not to do so in isolation. Knowing that some passages are harder to understand, we value the place of rigorous Bible teaching. Knowing that biblical illiteracy makes people vulnerable to error, we encourage daily Bible reading. And knowing that sin distorts our reading of the Bible, we test our interpretations against the historic creeds and confessions that have guided the church. Not that we hold that the historic church was infallible—it, too, must be subject to Scripture—but it can guard us against extremes, point out blind spots, and protect us from error. The answer to confusion about Scripture is not a human authority standing over it, but God's people sitting under it, reading it, studying it, and letting it guide them. In awe of Him, Paul

3 jun 2026 - 6 min
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Three Truths to Combat Your News Anxiety

[https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56b23a868a65e24fb5da70bb/d9665eaa-d9da-4126-b259-4cf7d896711c/OON+20260520.png?format=1000w] Three Truths to Combat Your News Anxiety Paul Sadler More and more today, people are experiencing what psychologists are calling “headline stress disorder” and news-related anxiety. The American Psychiatric Association reported last year that 67% of those they interviewed were anxious about current events. Even though the news is triggering the anxiety, people compulsively check the news for reassurance, the way a person repeatedly checks to see whether the doors are locked for fear of an intruder. We fixate on worrying circumstances that are beyond our control and, as a result, experience elevated stress, headaches, sleep problems, and feelings of dread and helplessness. Three foundational truths from the Bible about the future can help with this. 1. THE WORLD WON’T BE DESTROYED BY CLIMATE CHANGE, NUCLEAR WAR, OR A.I. The Bible is very clear about how the end of the world will be triggered. It won’t be through an environmental disaster, a nuclear war, or a digital takeover of our planet. In fact, Jesus said, “And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet” (Matthew 24:6). The end of the world will come when Jesus returns, this time not as a baby in a manger but descending from heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:16), “coming with the clouds” (Revelation 1:7), “as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west” (Matthew 24:27). That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do what we can for the environment, seek to bring peace where there is conflict, or put safeguards on our technologies—it just means that none of these threats are ultimate. Our lives and this planet aren’t in the hands of Greta Thunberg, Vladimir Putin, or Sam Altman. Our lives are in Jesus’ hands, and we will ultimately answer to Him. Our reassurance isn’t in the news; it’s in His second coming. 2. THIS LIFE ISN’T THE END Stephen Hawking once said, “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken-down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” Statements like this can deepen anxiety because they leave people without hope beyond this life. If this life is all there is, we have to find all our hope, meaning, joy, and purpose here and now. That makes every news crisis an existential threat. The Bible paints a different picture. It says that all people will one day be resurrected from the dead to enter an eternal existence. In John 5:28-29, for instance, Jesus said, “Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.” In Matthew 25:46, He said, “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” If this life is just a precursor to judgment and eternal life or eternal punishment, then the highs and lows we experience here are not nearly as consequential. That’s why the apostle Paul was able to call his trial a “light momentary affliction” (2 Corinthians 4:16) and say, “The things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:17). If I can learn to measure the news and my own circumstances against the backdrop of eternity, I can stop doomscrolling and give my attention to the things that really matter. 3. THERE’S A FINAL JUDGMENT THAT WILL RIGHT THE WRONGS OF THIS WORLD’S INJUSTICE There’s nothing like injustice to stir up our anger. Hearing incidents of economic injustice or racial injustice can open up old wounds and eat away at us. Personal experiences of injustice with the legal system, an employer, or even a spouse can make us feel powerless. While the news often intensifies our anger, reflecting on the Bible’s teaching about the final judgment can bring relief. 2 Corinthians 5:10 says, “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.” Jesus added, “I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak” (Matthew 12:36). If I know that a day is coming when Jesus is going to perfectly judge everyone, then no one will ultimately get away with anything. But if my enemy is going to answer to Jesus, then I will also. I can release the evil people of this world to His judgment, but I also have to deal with my own evil. Yet Jesus offers a pardon to all who turn from their sin and trust in Him. As He says in John 5:24, “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” Can you see how reflecting more deeply on the Bible’s teaching about the future could relieve the doom that comes from endless scrolling? The Fellowship Affirmation of Faith says the following about Future Things: > We believe in the personal and bodily return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power and glory; in the bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust to stand before God in the final judgment; in the eternal, conscious punishment of the unregenerate in hell; and in the eternal blessedness of the redeemed in the new heavens and the new earth. In awe of Him, Paul

20 mei 2026 - 6 min
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What Is the Separation of Church and State and Why Does It Matter?

[https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56b23a868a65e24fb5da70bb/62641bf4-54c3-4bac-bd42-cb0bce20f8c5/OON+20260513.png?format=1000w] What Is the Separation of Church and State and Why Does It Matter? Paul Sadler When Emperor Constantine professed faith in Christ in 312 AD, Christians had been facing persecution for almost as long as the church existed. They were set on fire by Nero in the first century, executed by Trajan in the second century, and tortured, burned alive, and fed to animals by Diocletian in the third century. When Constantine embraced Christianity, it must have felt like all the church’s prayers were answered. The following year, he signed the Edict of Milan, which legalized Christianity and granted broad religious toleration throughout the empire. Unfortunately, that didn’t mean that the church’s problems were over. After professing faith in Christ, he had his soldiers paint the sign of the cross on their shields to secure victory in battle. All of a sudden, the symbol of Christ’s death for sinners became a good luck charm in a military conquest. Constantine gave wealth, tax exemptions, and legal authority to Christian ministers and in doing so attracted power-hungry leaders rather than spiritually qualified candidates. It was advantageous to identify as a Christian now, and nominal faith spread as a result. The state’s power was also used to exile heretics and seize the churches of leaders who didn’t accept his decisions. By mixing church and state, Christianity became a political identity, and the government became a means to enforce religious conformity. Unfortunately, the church has often failed to learn from the past, and Protestants and Catholics alike have repeated history’s mistakes again and again. The allure of power tempts the church in every generation. Scripture helps us avoid repeating those mistakes. Three biblical principles especially help us understand the relationship between church and state. 1. JESUS DID NOT ESTABLISH HIS KINGDOM THROUGH POLITICAL POWER We often think that state authority would help the gospel spread more effectively, but Jesus explicitly resisted efforts to establish His kingdom through political power. For example, in John 6:15, when He perceived “that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king,” it says, “Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself.” Later, when Jesus was interrogated by Pilate, He said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews” (John 18:36). Jesus is the King of kings, but His kingdom is not established through political force. 2. CHURCH AND STATE HAVE DISTINCT GOD-GIVEN RESPONSIBILITIES The Roman Empire was marked by cruel dictators. King Herod sought to kill Jesus at His birth and Pilate carried out His execution. Despite this, Jesus recognized their authority, famously saying, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's” (Matthew 22:21). Paul expanded on this teaching, calling governing authorities “ministers of God” (Romans 13:6) and “God’s servant[s] for your good” (Romans 13:4), saying that they “bear the sword” to carry out “God’s wrath on the wrongdoer” (Romans 13:4). Peter also addressed the role of government, saying, “Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good” (1 Peter 2:13-14). So while the church makes disciples and spiritually disciplines those who betray their confession as citizens of heaven, civil government serves society at large by promoting good and physically punishing those who do evil.   3. THE CHURCH’S MISSION ISN’T ADVANCED WITH THE WORLD’S WEAPONS The temptation to use the state to advance the gospel is attractive because of the power possessed by the government. Since Christians are so often disadvantaged by civil power, we’re tempted to seek that power to impose religious conformity or secure special advantages for Christians. Paul reminds us, though, that our power is spiritual, not political, and our battle is waged with persuasion, not coercion. As he says in 2 Corinthians 10:4-5, “For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ.” Christians should vote, and they can be active in civic and public life, but government isn’t the church, and Christian politicians have a responsibility to serve all of the nation’s citizens, not just the ones who believe the same things that they do. The Fellowship Affirmation of Faith [https://www.fellowship.ca/WhatWeBelieve] summarizes the Bible’s teaching on the church and state as follows: > We believe in the separation of church and state. The church should not resort to the state or worldly means to carry on its work. We believe that government is divinely appointed for the interest and good order of society, and its leaders are to be prayed for, conscientiously honoured and obeyed, except only in the things opposed to the will of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the only Lord of the conscience and Ruler of the kings of the earth. In awe of Him, Paul

13 mei 2026 - 6 min
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Religious Liberty: Why Christianity Is the Faith That Defends the Rights of Its Opponents

[https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56b23a868a65e24fb5da70bb/b90b381f-3ef1-4769-9b19-fda9ef8dd880/OON+m4w5+Thumbnail.png?format=1000w] Religious Liberty: Why Christianity Is the Faith That Defends the Rights of Its Opponents Paul Sadler Should Christians support laws that make it harder to be Muslim? If you had the political power to outlaw atheism, would you use it? Should religious freedom be a Christian right or a human right? Many people haven’t thought carefully about these questions, but history shows us why we should. Most people want the government to champion the things that they’re committed to. But in the case of faith, the Bible gives strong reasons for civil authority to protect the freedom of all religions, not to promote any one particular religion. Consider why. 1. VIOLATING A PERSON’S CONSCIENCE WOUNDS THEIR SOUL The biblical portrait of faith is Spirit-led freedom, not externally imposed coercion. In Galatians 5:1, Paul says, “For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.” Whenever external pressure is used to obligate religious practice, it forces a contradiction between belief and action. It legislates hypocrisy and corrupts true faith in the process. In Romans 14, Paul addresses Christians who disagree about grey areas of faith. Rather than just telling them the right position and demanding that everyone comply, he instead urges them to each decide the matter with the recognition that they will ultimately answer to God (Romans 14:5, 12). Then he adds, “Let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother” (Romans 14:13). If fellow believers are not permitted to bind each other’s conscience, how much less does the state have that authority. And, in fact, doing so can spiritually harm a person. If you pressure someone to do what they believe to be wrong—even if it’s right—it is wrong for them and will violate their conscience. As Paul puts it, “Whatever does not proceed from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). We want people to be free to practise their faith because faith in Jesus is only possible as a free expression of a person’s will. And because governments aren’t qualified to judge people’s consciences. Forced faith is never genuine faith. The early church leader, Tertullian, said, “It is a fundamental human right, a privilege of nature, that every man should worship according to his own convictions.” 2. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM COMES WITH MORAL RESPONSIBILITY Although the biblical vision for faith is one rooted in freedom, it is not a licence for selfishness or recklessness. Galatians 5:13 says, “For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.” The Bible doesn’t give Christians or churches the “freedom” to ignore building codes or safety standards. A faith community can’t hide a predator behind the walls of religious privacy. Christian freedom isn’t a ticket to harm others and claim special protections. Religious freedom has always been about protecting the inner life of faith and its genuine expression, never about a blanket right to disregard legitimate authority in the name of faith. 3. CIVIL AUTHORITY WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO REGULATE FAITH It’s easy for people to think selfishly about government. We often assume it’s the power to get everything done the way we want it. But that’s precisely how Jesus ended up on the cross. Those who were in power decided His voice needed to be silenced. In Romans 13, Paul insists that governing authorities are “instituted by God” (Romans 13:1) and then adds, “He is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer” (Romans 13:4). The state is ordained by God to maintain order and punish wrongdoing. It is not given authority over conscience, worship, or the spread of faith. That’s why, when the apostles were forbidden by the religious authorities from telling others about Jesus, they answered, “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29). They realized that the state’s power was real but not absolute. It had the right to legislate taxation, justice, and public order, but not to demand conformity in religion or forbid people from sharing their faith. The Fellowship Affirmation of Faith gives a helpful summary of these principles: > We believe in religious liberty, that all people have the right to practise and propagate their beliefs without undue interference by the civil authority. Religious liberty isn’t a concession we make to the world. It’s a conviction rooted in the gospel itself. If we believe that faith must be free, then we need to defend that freedom not only for ourselves, but even for those who reject what we believe. In awe of Him, Paul

29 apr 2026 - 5 min
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Is Sunday a Sabbath, a Secular Day, or Something Else?

[https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56b23a868a65e24fb5da70bb/d46b89ae-5cb6-484c-852a-0933661c2cad/OON+m4w4+Thumbnail.png?format=1000w] Is Sunday a Sabbath, a Secular Day, or Something Else? Paul Sadler Many Christians grew up with a clear vision of what Sunday was all about. Morning and evening worship services bracketed a day that was often defined by what you couldn’t do: no shopping, no sports, no homework. Naps, fellowship, and Christian reading often filled their place. Today, people are quick to criticize the legalistic vision of the past but have often failed to replace it with anything else. How should a Christian understand Sunday, and what, if anything, makes it different from every other day? SUNDAY = THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH VIEW During the Reformation, there was a movement to re-evaluate Sunday. The medieval church had mandated church attendance and prohibited any manual labour that interfered with it, but festivals, sports, and markets were common during the rest of the day. Although Calvin didn’t equate Sunday with the Sabbath in the later Puritan sense, much of the Reformed tradition that followed developed in that direction. They pointed to the fact that God Himself rested one day in seven (Genesis 2:2) and, in so doing, established a day of rest as a “law of nature.” They also argued that the moral commands of the Mosaic covenant are still binding, and so Christians are obligated to “Remember the Sabbath” and “to keep it holy” (Exodus 20:8). Believers not only attend church on Sunday, but they finish any work and prepare for Sunday, so that the entire day can be devoted to God and His people with exceptions only for works of necessity and mercy. The Westminster Confession and the London Baptist Confession of Faith both enshrined this view. SUNDAY = THE LORD’S DAY VIEW While seeing Sunday as the Sabbath is deeply embedded in many people’s consciences, the majority of Christians today are convinced that Scripture teaches otherwise. For starters, the church never refers to the day of their gathering as “the Sabbath,” preferring instead the term, “the Lord’s Day” (Revelation 1:10), or just “the first day of the week” (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). Additionally, if the Sabbath is a binding command, it’s curious that the early church chose to gather on the first day of the week, not the seventh. This hardly reflects God’s pattern in Genesis. More importantly, the clearest New Testament teaching that directly addresses the Sabbath emphasizes freedom of conscience. Colossians 2:16 says, for instance, “Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.” It would have been inconceivable for Moses to say this about the Sabbath. Similarly, Romans 14:5 says, “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike.” Paul seems to be seeking the unity of a church where Jewish Christians continued to observe the Sabbath while Gentile Christians did not. Instead of urging uniformity, he calls believers to be fully convinced in their own mind (Romans 14:5) and act in a way that honours the Lord (Romans 14:6) with the knowledge that “each of us will give an account of himself to God” (Romans 14:12). This sense of accountability seems to be missing today. SUNDAY = MY DAY VIEW Far from being legalistic about what can and can’t be done on Sunday, many Christians today have no clear vision for the day at all. What was once structured around worship is now shaped by preference. In contrast to the example of the early church that gathered on the first day of the week, often at great personal cost, today, Sunday worship is often seen as just one option among others. The Lord’s Day doesn’t seem to belong to the Lord in any meaningful way anymore. This feels like a departure from Scripture and the pattern of the church. The Fellowship Affirmation of Faith allows for the conviction of Sunday as Sabbath but only explicitly affirms the Lord’s Day connection with Jesus’ resurrection and Christian worship. > We believe that the first day of the week is the Lord’s day in honour of his glorious resurrection and is a particularly appropriate day for corporate worship. Scripture may not bind every Christian to a Sabbatarian framework, but it does call us to recognize that this day uniquely belongs to the risen Lord. How do you honour the Lord on the Lord’s Day? In what sense do you see it uniquely belonging to Him? In awe of Him, Paul

22 apr 2026 - 4 min
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