Suddenly Groove - The Independent GrooveFunnels Podcast

In this episode, Joe Jablonski  and I discuss how to sell GrooveFunnels. So if you want to generate GrooveFunnels affiliate commissions, make more money, and learn how to become a top GrooveFunnels Affiliate so you can to make over $400,000 with Groove almost over night, tune in now! In this episode, you'll discover: “The biggest mistake that people make when they're new to Groove” 00:00:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=0s]​ How Joe turned from Uber driver into the VP of Business Development at GrooveDigital 00:04:18 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=258s]​ How to stay motivated even if your struggling 00:05:53 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=353s]​ The hidden opportunities when you want to promote GrooveFunnels 00:08:01 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=481s]​ How much do Top Groove Affiliate earn on average? 00:13:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=780s]​ The best people to learn from 00:16:52 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1012s]​ The DNA of GrooveDigital 00:20:16 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1216s]​ How a new GrooveFunnels member made $400,000 almost over night 00:23:04 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1384s]​ Why Joe's 14 year old daughter will probably never be a millionaire 00:24:53 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1493s]​ The biggest mistake that people make when they're new to Groove 00:27:56 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1676s]​ How even a couple in their 70's turned around their business with Groove 00:31:53 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHdiecHTRU&t=1913s]​ How to schedule a private coaching call with Joe About Martin Boeddeker Martin started his business FindFocus and developed an life-changing software that was used by some of the top bloggers in the world but went broke in the process. Hitting rock bottom after his father passed away he convinced 40+ world-class entrepreneurs to share the missing 20 % about making money online they only disclose in their highest paid masterminds during the Pareto Sales & Marketing Virtual Summit. Armed with the experience from working with people like Parry Marshall, John Lee Dumas and other amazing entrepreneurs he became a Top GrooveFunnels affiliate by helping people to find the right tech stack to scale and grow their businesses. About Joe Jablonski Joe Jablonski is an expert in Affiliate Marketing whose accomplishments include: Joe Jablonski is VP Business Development at GrooveDigital and he has over a decade of experience in building Business & Affiliate Relationships around the world and manages all the affiliate relationships for GrooveDigital. More Information Learn more about how you build your business with GrooveFunnels here http://findfocus.net/groovepages-review [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUhCaXBNbEtXX3NVVXBJTjk5bWxtRkRYOGowQXxBQ3Jtc0tseW5Qb3lQQTQtNXpfR0JVcmRWSzlTMjh5aWYwS3JnaENYWkNERUxJbEcyVXdCUjl4NUhSa2xBek9FNGNva1A1X0M4S3BQcXgtZmVjd1NTR2dvTGtlZld4YUxyY3h6WXBuSnJNMzFLNVYybDR0cndfWQ&q=http%3A%2F%2Ffindfocus.net%2Fgroovepages-review]​ Thanks for Tuning In! Thanks so much for being with us this week. Have some feedback you'd like to share? Please leave a note in the comments section below! They really help us out when it comes to the ranking of the show and I make it a point to read every single one of the reviews we get. Thanks for tuning in! AI-Generated Transcript: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] Martin Boeddeker: [00:00:00] Hello, Joe. Great to have you here on the interview. I guess most people already know you who are in the Groovefunnels space, but for the people who do not know you Joe Jablonski is the Affiliate manager of Groove Digital is one of the most helpful people that I know personally, he had a, he offered me some incredible habits. [00:00:22] During my Pareto Summit that Mike Filsaime promoted for me. And I honestly, I would not be here without Joe. So Joe welcome to this interview. Okay. [00:00:34] Joe Jablonski: [00:00:34] Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. I know I inspired so many people, but it seems I just, I love helping and I love seeing success stories. [00:00:43] Of course. [00:00:45] Martin Boeddeker: [00:00:45] Yeah. What we're doing here right now, I will ask you some tough questions about the Groove Affiliate program, how other people can be successful with the with the Groove affiliate program. And I hope you will share some behind the scenes insights with [00:01:00] us. I'm really excited before we dive into. [00:01:03] Deep dive deep, dive into everything. Can you give some, give us a little bit about your background, how you ended up working with Mike Filsaime and Groove Digital [00:01:14] Joe Jablonski: [00:01:14] all right. Quick background. I don't know how quick you got a few hours. Really quick thing is I met Mike Filsaime 30 years ago. So we've been very close friends. [00:01:22]I got involved with him. No, we were in car sales got involved with Mike online in 2006. He asked me to come work with him. I didn't know what a domain was. I didn't know what a website was. And I got involved 2006 working with Mike Filsaime. From there that 2006 site. So it almost took us almost 10 years. [00:01:43] We actually 2018, we started the whole group thing. We went, had our ups and downs. And who is Joe J someone that, Sales I'm trying to think real brief, give you a briefing on me. We got on, I got him involved with Mike 20 [00:02:00] 2006 and 2018. We started the group. But in that time I've gone through, it's not an overnight success and don't think, Oh, I always had the life and everything like that. [00:02:11] I moved in 2014 to Florida from New York. I didn't have any money. The house I was buying when I was moving to Florida, didn't work through. So I was driving to Florida with my family, all our furniture and no way to live. I had to come to new Florida. And then I was working for a company Mike Filsaime was in and he had a partner and it was Kartra and I was like, go from Kartra. [00:02:34] I didn't get along with one of the owners. I Andy Jenkins. And here I am, I just moved to Florida. I've been here like four months. I had no job. No money coming in and my wife was doing some, accounting, but I had to do anything I had to sell on Amazon. I sold on eBay and I was doing Ubering at night just to get by. [00:02:55] So doing that, and then two years later, Things were still struggling. It was [00:03:00] 2016. I had a knock on my door from the sheriff saying that I had to move because I was the behind on my rent. So I just want to let people know I was in the same show. There's a lot of people were I had no way to live. [00:03:12] I, I had, I was getting kicked out of my home. So from there in 2016, I had to buy, I actually wound up. Again, some friends and moving to another house that I had to rent and we started building and I saw it again with Mike and we started building things up. And then in 2018 we started a group and things started getting better and better. [00:03:34] And I'm still doing Ubering. I'm still doing E-bay. I'm still doing Amazon. I'm actually. Packaging things up. I do a lot of diversity even though Groove is doing great. I still like extra money. It's found money. I just do a lot of things. So after that, now I've been in Florida six years. It's 2020, COVID hit, everyone's struggling. [00:03:54] And then Groove is going up. I was actually able to buy my first house in [00:04:00] Florida. I've been renting for six years. I actually, I bought a new house. Not, it's not a new house, but it's new to me. I was able to get it, a house with, extra bedroom for my mom to stay at. I got a pool. What did you Cousy? [00:04:11] I got a nice backyard. I got the Palm trees, everything, but I worked hard to get here. That's my background. It's not something that happened overnight is always struggles, but because of taking action and what I do is I read a lot of books. I and the best book I would have say three of my best books is thinking grow rich, which I read twice a year, maybe three times awaken the giant within, which changed my life in 1988, 98, and now three feet from gold, which I read a few years ago. [00:04:43] And I said, I'm three feet from that. Now I'm actually hitting the gold. I'm hitting the Groove gold and it's all because of motivational things I listened to and books, I read, that's a quick background of my story. So [00:04:56] Martin Boeddeker: [00:04:56] yeah I can relate a lot because like [00:05:00] the house where I'm right now here, like this nice little cottage you like. [00:05:04] There's a fireplace over there. I was able to buy this from GrooveFunnels commissions as well. Like we, we used to buy this from my I bought this with my sister together, but I did not have the money. And so she paid for it, but now I bought the complete house from her. So for me, everything really well, like after, yeah, like after the promotion, like with Mike and the prey to Summit and then things were going pretty well with. [00:05:29] Kartra I'm an affiliate for them as well, but yeah, when Groove funnels hit it was like a complete game changer because yeah the offer that Mike put together, like this was amazing and he hit like a hot market. They, and this is something that I want to talk about with you during this interview, because you have obviously access to all the numbers, all the yeah, all the numbers and. [00:05:53] Connect with a lot of Affiliate. So where do you see are the big opportunities in generating [00:06:00] income with Groove funnels that yeah, new affiliates might be missing? [00:06:03]Joe Jablonski: [00:06:03] Here's a few things. Currently now I think we have over 350,000 users and a lot of them are Free members. And then we have, I think 30 or 40 close to $40,000 paid members. [00:06:16] Now here's the thing you can start your business with. GrooveSell you get it to have, put a Product up, something like that. And you also have Groove pages, Lite you get a Groove card, which is like Shopify to have your own e-commerce store. You could either use GroovePages to start making money get, create websites and get traffic and stuff like that. [00:06:36] But if you also want to be an Affiliate you go from 20% commissions up to 40%, once you become upgrade Member. And I was just talking to June lo she didn't get right involved. She was doing something else, but I was always helping her mentoring her. But she finally clicked because also she got a sale for Groove and it was only 20%. [00:06:56] So she made like $279. And I say, [00:07:00] do you know if you would have been upgraded Member you would get over $500 commission. And then she's  don't have the money right yet. So she started doing, and then she got another sale. No, not sell. And she's Oh my God, I got to upgrade now. So she upgraded. [00:07:15] To the upgrade package she has liked on now. And then she started getting 40%. Now. She, I think she got, yeah, I do. I'm sure. Over 10 to 20 Sales already, but it all you need is three Sales and you pay for your Groove funnels, the life. You don't never have to pay for a page, build a website builder Groove webinar, mail, GrooveSell all those things that come in the suite. [00:07:40] It's lifetime.  It's a no brainer. With the with the software I was using, you mentioned Kartra I used Kartra, there was the other page builder. I don't want to, say all of these names, but I was paying one 99 a month for three years. That's over $7,000 that I spent. And I really didn't make the money back because of this [00:08:00] glitch, that glitch and everything like that. [00:08:01] But now a group of people are people making money. They don't use any Groove and Andy getting, becoming Affiliate, which they're making. Some of our affiliates on the average can make 5,000 to $10,000 a month of just getting affiliates. And then when you build the army below you, you say you get a good Affiliate, you start getting 10% of everything they're doing. [00:08:26] Some people are making more money. By building their Groove army on the neath them, then they're doing a regular Sales for instance, Mike long. Has Bob Proctor, Nick Ponti Joel was it Joel about no Barry Pascal Mike long is making six figures,  five figures a month. [00:08:43] He's probably close to six figures a month from tier two. Not even selling it to new people. It's just incredible. The opportunity that people can make. Not only you might not be an Affiliate, but if you find someone who is a motivator and influencer that could sell it, you can make more [00:09:00] money on that. [00:09:00] Tier two. If you're not the person. So the [00:09:03] Martin Boeddeker: [00:09:03] way I see it especially when GrooveFunnels lounge, there was like I think it's still on the website or like this video about exponential growth. And a lot of people really saw like the people who were paying like. One 99 or two $99 per month. And yeah, this is really expensive. [00:09:21] It really adds up. It's really hard to make that back in Sales if you're just starting out and what GrooveFunnels really provides for me is like in the beginning. Yeah. Like the people who are having this. A table Russia. And  like it's all really crazy about it. I've seen this with my numbers right now. [00:09:39] Things seem to have more, more stabilized now. And now it's really back to, yeah, just doing the groundwork, talking to people. One-on-one convincing them, telling them yeah. Just basically what you just taught us because in my experience, it's. It takes time when you built a brand, when you bought the business and yet this $200 per month [00:10:00] really add up and you get everything with GrooveFunnels for life. [00:10:03] That means even if you're just trying to build a site income, you pay for it once. And then maybe even if you do not have a couple of months to work on your business, it's every thing is still there. You do not have any financial pressure you can take All. Yeah. Again, on. Where you're left basically. [00:10:21] And that's why I think GrooveFunnels is so amazing and the offer so amazing. [00:10:25] Joe Jablonski: [00:10:25] Oh, absolutely. And then to add on to that even if you don't get a lifetime, even if you go the trial, you can take a 14 day trial, try it out, and then you pay a three payments. It might be four 97 a month, I believe at this time and things can change. [00:10:40] So don't, if you watch this video later and if you didn't get in, it could go off. But even if you're paying the, a yearly, I think it's on the $200 a month and you pay for one year and you had done the lifetime. So if your budget, you can't pay it all upfront that 1397, then take a three time [00:11:00] payment or take the six payment plan or the 12 month payment plan, because in one year or six months you're done. [00:11:06] And if you could get one person a month, it's going to pay for itself. It's just one sec. I think my battery's about to go dead. I just got to plug in my battery. Let's see. I'm sorry. Excuse me. One second. I'm sorry about that. [00:11:26] All. All right. I'm sorry. I had to plug in my computer is about to go dead. I didn't realize is it plugged in? Yes, it's charging. All right. I got this. Lite from Window here was a, what was I saying? Oh yeah, if you even take the monthly or the six months or something like that, you could always make that money back, getting a few people a month or even using software where you can start building your products or even GrooveMail you start building a list. [00:11:49] The money is in the list. You can sell products, build a list and then educate those people and then sell them in the future. Like you're doing, you're building a list. You build a Facebook [00:12:00] page. It's I'm just so happy to see you succeeding so well. And I believe we pay you a lot monthly, we're paying over $500,000 a week right now, commissions, and I see Martin Boeddeker come up. [00:12:16] We send you 10,000 here, 20,000 there. You're doing awesome. You're taking action. And last year you weren't [00:12:24] Martin Boeddeker: [00:12:24] doing it. One question that I have for you you mentioned Mike Long and June law and but like I think these people were already learning for a couple of years or Mike long has been in industry for four decades, basically. [00:12:37]And that's why he, I believe he is so successful, but for four, if you take new affiliates, new beginner affiliates who do not have a list, like what are the strategies that you see them succeed with? [00:12:48]Joe Jablonski: [00:12:48] I would definitely say get a mentor whether whether it be you Mo Martin or someone in the Groove there's a lot of opportunity for these new people. [00:12:56]Either David Lemon here's an example for someone who is, [00:13:00] he was pretty new. But he just started giving, he started learning how to do GroovePages and he jumped in and just started making videos for the group saying, I do this, do that. We weren't paying him. He wasn't getting paid for it. [00:13:12] He was just giving his time, helping people. And next thing you know, it people started coming to him and say, Hey, can I hire you? If you learn how to do. Become the best in it, whether it be GrooveMail GrooveSell GroovePages GrooveKart Groove when they come out, be the best you can and you train people, you can make money that way, or you can make money, selling it. [00:13:34] But we actually hired David Lemon because we saw it as a given so much value. We're like, Hey, can you work for us? He is a person who was just giving his time and now we're paying him. So if you're new. You learn something, grab a mentor, get involved with our groups. We have Martin you do daily training. [00:13:56] You have a Facebook group that you have training in it. We have [00:14:00] training every week. We have training like two or three times a week with different people. Simon Leung young is helping the affiliates. I do some training. We actually have an a course coming out in late December and we also have magazine coming out. [00:14:11] We want to educate you. We want to give you training. We do weekly training on Groove Digital presents. We have a new speaker, come on. Who who does like an hour of training and then they might sell their course. Yes. A lot of people say, Oh, they're just going to pitch to us. They're going to sell. But they do an hour of training before they give you an aha moment or say, this niche might not be for you. [00:14:32] So say in the future if you speak on Groove Digital presents, Martin not, everyone's going to relate to your natural what you're doing, but you might help some people. And if you have a program after that, you're going to sell, then they be, you become their mentor and they're going to be success successful because. [00:14:49] You're successful for what you did. Like you said, you were you're renting and now you, you bought the place. I was renting for six years in Florida. I always owned the house in New York, but my income could not pay [00:15:00] for a house. I had no money, working nights, Ubering and doing everything I had to do. [00:15:05] But now I bought a house because of Groove changed my life because I'm helping people like you June low. I get on six calls a day. I just had an hour call with you. Now I have an hour after you. I'm trying to help as many people as I can. And it helps me. It all comes back and the Groove community. [00:15:23] Unbelievable. Where else can you see everyone helping each other? Usee you're trying to get the sale. You're trying to do it, but the community they're all helping each other. They, and it's such a great community. Did you go in and you chime in and you say, Hey, how do you do this? Martin Johnson. [00:15:41] This is how you do this. This is how you do this. This is the mistakes I made. Martin you just keep on giving your time. You're just a lot of people that you like you June though, is doing the same thing. My, a lot of people in the community doing it, but you can see the successful people that are taking action. [00:16:00] [00:15:59] Not complaining. You have to learn it, and read books. Awaken the giant within changed my whole life in 1998, three feet from gold thinking grow rich. I listened to motivational tapes every morning, or I go on YouTube. I listen to Tony Robbins I listened to Bob Product. I listened to Brian, Tracy, Jim Rowan. [00:16:18]So many motivational people out there. Even my mentor, even getting on a phone call with Mike Filsaime for half hour motivates me get, find a mentor, get on it. Ask people questions. You can even get a call with me. Martin if anyone's watching this and you want to do a three way call with your action takers, your top students let's hook up a three-way call. [00:16:41] And I'll get on it. My time is limited because like I said, we're growing at 2000 members a day. So my time is very limited, but I want to give as much time as I can. So if I could [00:16:52] Martin Boeddeker: [00:16:52] get some from what I've experienced and especially from Mike, Filsaime who taught me? Yeah. Martin, it's all about abundance. [00:16:59] And this [00:17:00] is really the DNA of your company. And especially with this new movement that you're creating, like there's so much. Positive energy everybody's so enter the aesthetic and really wants to help everybody. And especially during this crisis that we are still in like I, I think it's such an amazing opportunity. [00:17:18] And even though like I sell, when I use GrooveFunnels, sometimes there are still some bags, but yeah. That's because the software is in beta and as. Hello as we get closer to when your turn to monthly subscriptions and more valuable, the software will become because it's much more usable right now. [00:17:34] GrooveKon, Groove GrooveMail is in beta and and things like this. So it's already enough to build your whole online presence. You have to find some workarounds, but yeah, you mentioned David, Lemon he's doing amazing trainings of how to. To sell your products. And this is something that I will talk in my Groove Digital presented, like in, in the beginning, it's  you have to really like yeah. [00:17:57] Work with real people. Like I, what I really [00:18:00] like about your companies that you use your own software, even though it was like much more beta in the beginning you used it to sell, like All yeah. All the licenses, all, everything. Like you used a bare bones GrooveSell in the beginning and I GroovePages. [00:18:14] And in the end it was really about, yeah, Mike being there and people trusting Mike because of his experience with past companies and in the end, if people want to succeed, they also have to build this know like, and trust. And if people trust you and you recommend GrooveFunnels to them, if they trust you, and it's an amazing offer it's one of the easiest sales that you can make. [00:18:37] Joe Jablonski: [00:18:37] Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I was talking to June lo in a previous interview I was doing, it's a no brainer. And we're all here to help you. We got Martin who is incredible and you could see his, your story, right? You have your own story right there. How you became successful. You've done other Affiliate programs. [00:18:59] But [00:19:00] now  lot of people are Rapid themselves. It's all Groove. We have we have even have a Groove store where you can buy Groove merchandise and stuff like that. We're, we are so excited with. Trying to help everybody, we can, we're not making as much money right now because all our money's going back into development. [00:19:15]Yeah, we'll make it a little money. Of course. We have to, but we're not a lot more money is going back into high, more devs, mine, hiring more support. And we know there's bugs and we know support is not 100% there, but we're growing together with the community and trying to help you as best we can. [00:19:36]We have, mentors like yourself and other people helping their members So it's an incredible opportunity and a community that is everyone's helping each other. That's what I love behind it. It's just it's. So at Simon when people are like totally rather on Groove we had one of the Affiliate it's actually, you saw how we Tuan he actually put a G in his head, he had a buzz of a geo and it said [00:20:00] we actually gave him a G Lite, for that. [00:20:02] So yeah, wrapping around. He said he changed his life. The beauty, what I like is when I get an email or a phone call or texting, Groove changed their life. It changed your life. It changed my life. Angie Norris is a big one. She was in a corporate world where she lost her job and she was struggling online and her husband didn't even really want to do it online. [00:20:23] It's you got to go get a job COVID hit. And here's a person that started in Mo Angie started in may. No. It may actually. And we actually had on Groove Digital presents because she was doing so well. I said, tell you a story, have a weapon. And she's  never did ask him, make a PowerPoint. [00:20:40] So I tell you a story, keep a journal. And she was making $10,000 a month. And now because she was on Groove Digital presents, I think she's going to hit a half. She might even hit it. And over $400,000 in sales between commissions and her Course. So he a person, Didn't know what to do and COVID hit and [00:21:00] it not only did we help. [00:21:01] And, she came to New York to Florida. She gave me this big hug and she goes, you changed my life, change everything about it. She said none of that, she's helping family members and friends she's she needed to hire support. She needed to hire an assistant. You need to hire an accountant. [00:21:18]Not only are we helping her now? She we're helping her people and our family. It's just, and I'm sure you're hard people, so we're helping more than just you. Oh, not yet. You're still doing this on yourself. Oh my God. That must be overwhelming. I know. I can't handle it. I had to hire an assistant. [00:21:35] I actually hired my wife to do Groove in hired her because we got so big. She does accounting. So she'd do the wires and stuff like that, but she helps me to pay affiliates. It's just a great community. People helping each other for newbies, you gotta take action. You have to jump in. You have to educate yourself. [00:21:54] You have to find a mentor or partner to help you. It's just. I is not going to [00:22:00] do it. It's gotta be a we, and that's the whole thing about Groove where it's not, Oh, I did this. I D it's we it's.  Use the team, there's no Inc. And they they always say, read good books, motivate yourself, get a mentor, get a partner, take action. [00:22:14] If you don't know how to do it, watch our training. Watch Martin's training. Find out. You have to align yourself with the people who are successful. And I've told this to my nephews, my nieces, anybody and some people don't like me for it. And they're like, Oh, get off your high horse. You have to align yourself with the right people. [00:22:34]I aligned myself with Mike Filsaime 30 years ago. Look at me now it took, it's not an overnight success and someone said it and I forgot exactly who quoted it. Might've I don't want to quote the wrong person, but they said you become your average of the six closest friends, or it might be five closest friends. [00:22:50] So if they're successful, you're going to become successful. If you follow what they do, if you hang around a bunch of people drinking, partying being negative, complaining about it  and [00:23:00] making reasons for why you're not successful and blaming all the people for not being successful. You're not going to be successful. [00:23:06]I asked my daughter a 14 year old daughter the other day and I, her, I go you do you want to be a millionaire one day? And she goes, no. I said, will you be a millionaire, something along those lines? You'll be a millionaire. And she actually said, no, So here I am thinking she's never going to be a millionaire because if she's saying no, I'm not going to be, you're not going to be. [00:23:29] So I said, then I rephrase. I was like, would you like to be a millionaire one day? She goes, Oh, absolutely. Who wouldn't want to do so I then when I said when I asked you, are you going to be a millionaire one day? You want to be a millionaire? And she's  don't know. It doesn't really matter to me as long as I'm happy. [00:23:44] Yes. That works. But. But when, you have to set yourself to goals, not everyone's going to be a millionaire. I don't know if I'm going to get there. I probably will because I know I will. Have I made millions over the years? Yes. Am I a millionaire right now? No. Will I get there? [00:24:00] Yes, I will. But you have to put it out there and surround yourself with the right people. [00:24:06] Martin Boeddeker: [00:24:06] Absolutely. And it's absolutely the same for me.  I've bought like one of in pagans programs back in the days and like outlining from him. And it took me a couple of years and a lot of different tries, like getting up a website, buying a domain, getting started, then abandoning the project trying something different. [00:24:25] And sometimes it's really about just doing it again and again, and it's part of the life of the entrepreneur. But once you get. They are, and to have the freedom meant you have a job that that you really like. And I obviously I see it in your face, the way you smile how you like to help people. [00:24:41] And it's the same for me. I like if I have the feeling, I can help people, but in the end it really comes down to taking action.  Like that leads me to one of my last questions is like, what is a mistake that costs a lot of Groove stars, a lot of time and wasted effort when they're starting out. [00:24:59]What the, what, the [00:25:00] biggest mistake that people make when they're new to this whole Groove universe, [00:25:04] Joe Jablonski: [00:25:04] they overwhelm themselves. They buy too many programs. Here, if you watch a Groove Digital present, or are you going to email through this? You can make money overnight. It's just putting your mindset. [00:25:16] There is no overnight success. There might be. And they're like, Oh, GroovePages they became an overt. No, we've been working on this for years and years. Mike's been working on since 2006. This was his vision in 2018. We only started out with Groove card. It was just the beginning. It took us two and a half years to get where we are right now. [00:25:37] You got to realize it's not an overnight success. Don't overwhelm yourself. Take day by day. Don't blame it on this COVID thing. Cause last year, I don't know if you remember this Martin in 2019. We launched GroovePages it was on no, it was a horror.  We bombed, it was nobody showing up. [00:25:53] It was in December of 2019. We were like, Oh my God, we're dead in the water. We have to [00:26:00] get rid of this everything. It was a mess, a complete mess. So we like, you have to adapt. Okay, this didn't work. That was our mistake. We launched in December, which wasn't the right time we launched GroovePages but it wasn't ready. [00:26:11] It was in beta. So people weren't ready to pay monthly for something that it's embedded. Why would they want this? So we decided to do a launch of GrooveSell self one 99. And this is COVID thing hit. We didn't say, Oh, let's still do this. And. We had to adapt. You have to adapt. You can't say, Oh, this COVID ruined my business. [00:26:31] Okay. What can you make different? What can you do different? So we decided to give a funnel of free, give away, free stuff, give away something to get into your funnel. And then once they get into your funnel, everything goes into this big gold pot on the bottom where you can educate people, coaching, give a product, sell something, anything, but get them into your funnel. [00:26:52]The biggest, I know you say mistakes is it? It's grown too fast. Sometimes a mistake overwhelming itself, buying too many [00:27:00] products, focus on one project at a time. If you don't, it looks weird. What if you focus on one project, you will get it done. If you have one project and then you start another project, now you have two projects going, then you start another project. [00:27:14] Three. You're never going to get that first project done. And I Mike taught this years ago and sometimes he does it. Now we have so many projects going on, but if you focus on one project at a time, that's a big mistake. People do. They try to do too many things. They start a project and then Oh my God, I have an aha moment. [00:27:30] Let's do this. And then they have another hallmark and that now they have three things going on. Guess what? None of them get done, focus on one thing at a time. And the biggest thing is focus on yourself that self-development. And I go get back to the read books, motivate yourself, find a mentor. You got to educate yourself. [00:27:50] You have to focus on yourself. His people, here's an example. People wait, you have to adapt to the times. All right, 70 year old people you know [00:28:00] that also they have a music store. They give private lessons, they sell from their store. COVID hit. They can't have people coming in store they're 70 years old. [00:28:08] They don't, they're afraid of it because it affects the elderly more than someone who is very healthy. Health is not only take care of yourself. So they call me up and they started talking about it. They got through somebody and they called me up out of the blue. I got an email, so I got on the phone with them. [00:28:24] They said, Joe, I just want to thank you. And Groove, I'm like, Whoa, who is this? And she said, we're 73 years old. My husband is 75. We own a music store. And everything ended with Colvin. She goes we look for an alternative. We couldn't find it. It was so much, it was so hard. They came across GrooveFunnels over the summer, they opened up a website, they opened up a Groove store. [00:28:48] The GrooveKart they're doing that now. They're doing GrooveMail. They started selling everything from them music store. They started doing online music lessons. They started selling they started doing a [00:29:00] video thing. On their websites of doing virtual, lessons to people. And they said, Groove, GrooveFunnels changed the whole life. [00:29:08] They could actually travel, or stay at home safely. The business actually went up, they're selling so much stuff online. They may not have that. He is 70 years old people. They didn't just quit and say, Oh my God. And then, sometimes when I walk into a store like Walmart or a department store, or I don't know what you have by you, there might be Kmart, Walmart target, any kind of store. [00:29:33] And you see these old people that must be near 70 eighties working at the register at a food market. And because they don't have a retirement and they have nothing in, GrooveFunnels changing that for a lot of people. And like I said, I was rented for six years. Groove changed my life. I'm actually living in a house and I'm paying my bills. [00:29:53] I'm not behind. It's just, it can change a lot and it didn't happen overnight because of what I keep giving and [00:30:00] reading and motivate myself. So a big mistake is getting up in the morning. And being negative, be positive. When you wake up, listen to positive stuff, read positive stuff, getting get with Martin. [00:30:13] He's a mentor he's made success happen for him. It didn't happen overnight. It wasn't something that said, Hey, I'm on his. Groove make it work. No, he took action. And the biggest mistake. Is people not taking action, put it on your board, say list things that you want, give a top 10 saying your vision board or your goals or something like that. [00:30:35]When I w [00:30:36] Martin Boeddeker: [00:30:36] when I was in that, there, there are some really amazing exercises. And I cover some of them in my book Lite which is on Amazon. But in the end it really comes down to you taking action and then yeah going with it. And I think there's so much opportunity. And especially like a crisis is always also opportunity for a lot of people. [00:30:57] And especially like with things going more digital. Like [00:31:00] we, we are still in a everything is still growing online and yeah, if you can carve out your spot even if you have to maintain your full-time job, it's you will get there eventually, if you. Keep edit and just do it like you are on Mike date when your lounge fail. [00:31:15] Like you did not put your head in the sand, like you, you recover like more quickly than I've ever seen. And I will probably do a couple of podcast episodes just about this, like a B, because I experienced this life because after the live call, like after the coaching I got with Mike, I was following really closely. [00:31:32] And what he did is you also just. It takes action. Like he was he shared this on the webinars where he was basically alone after he left the Kartra no company, no, no employees. You still kept his business running, kept everything super lean. But yeah, he built this expertise and out of this expertise then launched what is now GrooveFunnels. [00:31:53] Thank you so much. Joe fall for this interview. Where can people, if they want to reach out to you, where can they get in [00:32:00] contact with you? [00:32:00]Joe Jablonski: [00:32:00] They could go through you if they want to do a call. You tell me the action takers. I don't I can't help everybody. Like I said, I do five, six calls a day, very busy. [00:32:08] I've over a hundred emails I still got to get through today. You could email me at JV at Groove Digital dot com. If it's something to do with Affiliate relations commissions Training anything to do with Affiliate stop? Not how to use. GrooveSell not how to use this. I'm not really yet I'm techie, but I don't handle those techie things. [00:32:27] I can't walk you through with setting things up, but I could give you help with Affiliate stall. Oh, excuse me. So JV at Groove Digital dot com. If you want to get on a call, maybe we could do a three way call with Martin. Or I can qualify you see if I could get on a call with you. Like I said, my time is very limited. [00:32:45] I went action takers. If I could help any of you by all means, once in a while, I'll get on a call maybe a half hour, 15, half hour. And we'll go from there. I really want to help as many people as I can. I can't. I can create you. I [00:33:00] can help you create wealth and the right path, but you have to educate yourself, find a mentor, whether it be me Martin or anybody in the group team up with somebody. [00:33:12]And let's make things happen. A lot of things coming in 2021 and don't think, Oh, it's too late. There's so many people that listen. There are multi, how many people in the world, billions and we're only in thousands for a group. So don't think you're getting in late. This is still the first year with, like I said, we're over 300,000 members right now. [00:33:35] We are going to be over a million in 2021, 2022. We might have 2 million. So now is the right time to get in. Help other people get well known in the community and you'll be one of the authority figures like Martin is, at a more, it says, Hey who's a good mentor? Who should I follow? I give out a few people. [00:33:56]I definitely say mine and not to get off subject, but there's so many [00:34:00] people like Angie and Mike Long and all those people are successful. So follow them. Look what they're doing, especially get involved with Martin you, you have coaching, you have a book. Yes. It's the best investment you can make in yourself and following a mentor like Martin, it's just, I'm just so excited for you that you have come so far since I first talked to you. [00:34:23] Months ago. You're like, ask me questions. Active my questions. But you took action.  You take what we say. You're like, all right, what's my game plan. This is what I'm going to do. And it's just, I love what you're doing. And I love how many people you're helping it. Just, you're doing so much for the community and I appreciate you. [00:34:40] Martin Boeddeker: [00:34:40] Okay. Thank you so much for this interview. I know your time is limited. You have a car coming up, so thank you so much. [00:34:48] Joe Jablonski: [00:34:48] No problem. All I can add is, like I said, is take action. Motivate yourself, read most motivational stuff I could go on for another hour with you. Martin I love talking. But why [00:35:00] did here you have an awesome day. [00:35:01]

Welcome to Episode 10 of the SuddenlyGroove. In this episode, June Low and I discuss how to sell GrooveFunnels on Facebook. So if you want to generate GrooveFunnels affiliate commissions, make more money, and learn how to become a top GrooveFunnels Affiliate so you can how to use Facebook to generate leads, tune in now! In this episode, you'll discover: “How to promote GrooveFunnels On Facebook” • How June crushed the GrooveFunnels affiliate game in less than 7 months • How to benefit from the lockdown • How June made $300 in her first month with ZERO experience in online marketing • Where to get started as a newbie • The "almost magic" trick to guarantee your success when you are just starting out • How to find the right mentor • How to optimize your Facebook Profile • How to create an amazing offer, so people buy GrooveFunnels with YOUR affiliate link • How to get paid the right way when you are just starting out (this is far more important than money) About June June Low Helps Entrepreneurs to Get Prospects & Close Deal Faster Organically Without Ads Spend. Having 12 Years of Digital Marketing Experience since the starting of the Facebook era, June Low built her company Instagram profile organically from   0 to 105,000 Followers Organically. Realizing that It's never enough time to catch up with the ever-changing algorithm of Facebook or Google rules, she decided to master the EVERGREEN strategies on getting prospects organically and close deals faster via storytelling & high ticket closing techniques. More Information Learn more about June with her FREE E-book https://link.junelow.co/free30 GrooveFunnels Affiliate Marketing Links & Mentions From This Episode: One Funnel Away Challenge http://findfocus.net/recommends/ofa Thanks for Tuning In! Thanks so much for being with us this week. Have some feedback you'd like to share? Please leave a note in the comments section below! They really help us out when it comes to the ranking of the show and I make it a point to read every single one of the comments we get. Thanks for tuning in! AI-Generated Transcript: [00:00:00] Martin Boeddeker: Hello, June. Welcome to this GrooveFunnels training. I'm so excited to have you here because I noticed you were so active in the group funnels group. Yeah. Posting a lot of questions, a lot of people engaging with your comments and yeah, I checked out your website. Your you're really like you taught me in the pre-chat that you're really into the STK about Groove, but also still using ClickFunnels. [00:00:21] So we will get into this as well. And right Now  the goal of this interview is really, to share what you're up to right now, your background, so people can really understand what they need to do yeah. To build a full-time income with GrooveFunnels.  Yeah, what come June? [00:00:36] June Low: Hi, thanks. [00:00:37] Martin for having me in your show. It's my pleasure. So what I do is that I help entrepreneurs to actually. That's more clients and more sales without any ad spends like also starting in GrooveSell this is what I'm good at by a lot of us. That's why I'm sure that voice web watching it. You might be wondering like how to exactly get get to ask Lite more attention. [00:00:57]Whenever in whichever community you are in. I [00:01:00] think the, one of the more important thing is that we really need to put ourselves out there and constantly giving values. That's the reason that I think I'm so glad at Martin you notice me? [00:01:11] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah.  Yeah you showed up in my newsfeed, so your strategy is clearly working. [00:01:15]Can you tell us a little bit about your background, how you got into online marketing and like a little bit about your backstory. So we have a little perspective about yo your journey, how long it took you. So we can also set expectations for the people who are watching this. Sure [00:01:32] June Low: happy to share it. [00:01:33] So what I'm doing right now, I'm doing coaching. I call my coaching athletes at a very same time. I only started this journey just seven months ago. Like right now he's the one book 2020. I started because of the lockdown. I have two out of business. One is actually e-commerce the other is I hate it business, but unfortunately Lite because there's a lockdown in March in my country. [00:01:55] I couldn't really do. Anything at all Lite but we have bills to pay, [00:02:00] so I was like, Oh my God, I cool myself down for one night. And then after that, the next day I decided, you know what, let's try to do something online, like focusing on overseas, because if my country's locked down, the opportunities is still available out there. [00:02:15] So that's why I started to look into this effort. Marketing more seriously. So that's how I began it actually. [00:02:22] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Awesome. Yeah, because this story is really similar to mine. I'm from Germany. I do not even know where you're from. What's your country? Home country. Malaysia. Awesome. Yeah, w what I really laugh and what I laugh about this working with people internationally, like I do not have a lot of German clients, so everything it's not, my English is not my native language and yours probably as well. [00:02:45]So we are still able to build a full-time income with this. Marketing thing. So yeah. What happened after you started? Yeah, seven months ago. [00:02:55] June Low: Okay. So about seven months ago. So what I did is I set myself a realistic target [00:03:00] for myself because I have zero experience in athlete marketing. Although I have some digital marketing experience because of my experience in e-commerce as well as , I said to myself, Hey, you know what, June. [00:03:12] Yes. I know that right now it's a difficult time, but then why not just set a really small target Lite you just tried to in tree weeks time, just try to get Lite $200. I don't know how, but you just figure out how to get these $200 somewhere else. So I set that target for myself.  And I was really working  very hard into it. [00:03:32] I have zero knowledge. So I was asking around modeling after people just like you Martin Lite who I work with. Various assessment athlete. Marketing what are they doing? And mum went, what are the products they, I hate promoting. So after I moved out to them, I slowly cracked the code because we can help as well. [00:03:50] And then for the month I set the target at $200. I make it $300. That's where I was like, Oh my God. This is working. So maybe I should, I can look [00:04:00] into this more seriously, because back then I was just like having fun, having a little challenge for myself. [00:04:06] Martin Boeddeker: I think a lot of people get stuck. I really liked that you set this realistic goal of $200, which is something I believe everyone who is watching this can achieve, but it's also like a God that will not overwhelm you. [00:04:21] So you're just trying it. And what were the first steps that you took? [00:04:25]June Low: The first tip, add a ticket's that's constantly giving values by publishing because a lot of us, we keep on thinking that. Athletes are single Product in means that Sally actually, it's nothing related to selling at all. It's actually offering the right solutions to the right audience who actually need the solutions. [00:04:44] It's just  if let's say you are the doctor, you have a patient who is having a headache. And what you need to do is just to give them the right solutions to cure headaches. But I'm seeing so many newbies athletes back then when they are starting out, they always love to [00:05:00] sell, even though the other person doesn't need the kind of medicine. [00:05:03] So then they will feel like, Oh my God, it's so hard. Actually. It's not hard at all. It's just that maybe you are, you're giving the wrong product to the wrong target. [00:05:12] Martin Boeddeker: Exactly. And I think that's a huge mistake. People make, they just think like this product is amazing. Everybody needs it, but especially if you're starting out you're really need to niche down to what were the first products that you choose. [00:05:28] June Low: Okay. The first part I choose is actually one funnel away challenge by ClickFunnels because I, myself, I believe in only escalating products that I personally really love it. And enjoy, at least I use it and I love it and I tell people about it. So that's why, because I am going that course and I already love it. [00:05:48] So that's where I started athletes. But after that after ClickFunnels, that's where I started to see, there are so much more opportunities, book funnels. That's where I actually divert my [00:06:00] energy in promoting Buphenyl instead, but also because I ha there is something happens that Actually gave me an alert that, Hey, you know what, maybe you should start looking out for any Otter following software out there. [00:06:11] That's where I'm stumbling across with book [00:06:13] Martin Boeddeker: funnels. Okay.  Can you tell us what kind of success have you seen with GrooveFunnels and what kind of success have you have you had in, in your journey so far? [00:06:23]June Low: Accidentally afflicted my first GrooveFunnels without even athletes in it. So one, one client and friends and students of mine. [00:06:32] So suddenly there he told me, Hey, you know what? I just upgrade it. I was like, what did you upgrade? He said, yeah. GrooveFunnels,  you told me to register an account. I was like, Oh yeah. Then that is where I was like going to my lock-in. I turned my desk. Oh yeah. He upgraded. I was like, so happily. [00:06:49]So that's actually how I started with Groove. And ever since then, I really take a very serious look in to GrooveFunnels too. To help people to to venture [00:07:00] into how Groove can help them business. Lite not everybody use Groove funnel the same way, because there are so many different functions in Groove and not every functions is needed by everybody. [00:07:10] So what I do is that I have my, my friends to actually see which functions they should actually use it so that it will save them time in a very long [00:07:19] Martin Boeddeker: run. I think that's so important what you're saying here, because for example, I never looked in into GrooveKart because I have zero experience with yeah. [00:07:28] E-commerce I do not plan to sell any physical products soon. And I think that's so important advice. And even when I created like this. Training. I said my to myself what do I really, I had so many amazing ideas, like what I could do, but then I got overwhelmed. And then I saw, I thought to myself what do I really need? [00:07:49]I need a simple landing page. I need a thank you page. People need to be on my email list. Somehow, and then I need to conduct the interviews. And that's what I focused on. I currently, as a [00:08:00] time of, as we're recording this, there's absolutely no sales page, no nothing. And it's just like my intention to bring as much training to the people who are just getting started with GrooveFunnels and who want to build a full-time income with GrooveFunnels. [00:08:13] If somebody is at this point and they are just starting out, maybe yeah. They, their business failed or like they cannot do things because of the lockdown and the COVID crisis. Still not solved. What's your recommendation to them. And what's the strategy that you're teaching people. [00:08:29] June Low: Okay. If let's say you're are totally newbie at all, like you don't understand what is funnels. So what you can is that you, you should actually. Go and learn some key differences between website versus funnel, because why are we don't call it website, but it would call them book funnels for a reasons, because website is so outdated. [00:08:50] Website is a change in a way of having online presence. But when we are talking about funnels, it's where, you know how someone actually enter into your store. [00:09:00] We only have one very Very targeted call to action button for them to click on. We only have one objective. That's the reason why that we have funnels. [00:09:09] So if let's say anyone out there who's watching this, that you are just starting out, I think have a very brief understanding what funnels can do for you. That's one. And the second thing is that. Choose the right product to escalate to this funnel is really a good place to start with. But every Member even I say, I really want to athlete GrooveFunnels you yourself must know how GrooveFunnels functions, like what are features and why there are so many fun-loving software out there, but why GrooveFunnels. [00:09:36] It's good for you. It's good for your audience and really produce Lite funnels using it. And to really go inside and outside. I, and I believe that Martin, you have so much of resources that can share with us on that, right? [00:09:47]Martin Boeddeker: Yeah my blog posts on FindFocus dot net are probably like one of the most in-depth reviews I taught. [00:09:54] So like two other people who told me like, Hey, Martin, I'm sorry, I copied your blog posts because I did not [00:10:00] have time to, to write it all all myself, but I know you're big on SEO, so I hope you're fine with it. And of course, I'm fine because I really want people to know like how this. So software works well. [00:10:11] What differentiates like GrooveKon is what they can expect. And I think if you're a beginner and this is something I always tell people in the YouTube videos, for example, I grew funnels is still being built right now. It's still there's actual like programmers who write the code and make it better and remove backs and create new features. [00:10:30] And it's not on the market Kartra or. ClickFunnels or something, so it's not ready, but it will have everything that you eventually need to build a complete, like huge business, like with I don't know, like 20 employees and something like this. And then like it, it will be able to run like Tony, Robbins staff and funnels and causes if he wanted to, or like Ty Lopez or any other online marketer. [00:10:52] So this this is currently in, in being created, but it's not there yet. But if you're starting out, you do not have a [00:11:00] team of 20 people who will edit your videos, who will write your blog posts and transcribe them and put and create social media posts out of them. And I think like one thing that I noticed for myself as a, if I were, when I started out, or even when I'm creating a project like this is I get so overwhelmed by all the possibilities. [00:11:19] So what what do you think are the few action steps that people are really need to focus on? [00:11:25] June Low: Okay. I think the first key is that you have to decide what you want first. Like maybe right now, a lot of us, we want to earn a second income. Build a passive income. It can be either a passive income or maybe you want to eventually be passive income, replace your full-time income. [00:11:42]So decide what you want. Okay. After you decide what you want. The second thing is realistic for mentorship. Okay. I actually, I spend so much time in figure out, figuring out so many questions myself back then. But it would have shot me so much more if I invested in [00:12:00] mentorship much earlier. So that's why that's the second advice I would give. [00:12:03] And a third one is winning Start to publishing every single day. It doesn't have to be just like what we are doing right now is a recording, a video. It can be, investors are just not comfortable in front of the camera. You can do audio, and when I say, Oh, you can't do it. Why not do like publishing in a written format? [00:12:21] Just like Martin he has been really great at producing all the posts that really in that, that you can do so as well. But if let's say I do not know how to set up a website, it's pathetic. All right. Why not start with your Facebook profile? Oh, why not start with your LinkedIn profile? So there are so many mediums out there. [00:12:37] So just pick one platform, focus on that and publish every single day and stick to it for 365 days. It let's say you can't make a sale internal in 65 days by publishing daily. I am going to tell you it's not happening. [00:12:52] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. And I think it's so important because I'm huge on habits and creating habits. [00:12:57] And oftentimes it does not even matter, [00:13:00] like the quality of your posts does not matter in the beginning that much, it's more like you're building the habit of. Showing up every day of Pro trying to provide value every day. So even if no one engages with your posts, which rarely happens if you choose like Facebook, for example, it's different. [00:13:17]If you're blogging or something, but if you publish on Facebook like it's really about this habit of showing up. And I think let's one of the biggest advantages. I think you choose Facebook as your main platform. And I think that's one of the Big advantages that you get direct feedback from people like you can hit them up in. [00:13:34] Messenger see what are their problems? And then as you said, in the beginning, find a solution that's already on the market to match their problem. And once you have, or if you have a solution, like GrooveFunnels look for four groups of people who have this specific problem who maybe still have websites and do not know about funnels or  things like this. [00:13:55] And I, I think that's so important. [00:13:59] June Low: Yeah, [00:14:00] totally agree with you. Martin [00:14:01] Martin Boeddeker: okay. Okay. What do you think see with your students? Or maybe your own journey? What does the mistakes that cost Groove sauce? A lot of time and wasted effort, especially when they're starting out with GrooveFunnels. [00:14:14] June Low: Oh, you mean things that cost my time and [00:14:16] Martin Boeddeker: effort? [00:14:17] Yeah. Like wasted time and efforts. Like things where you put in maybe some work or baby you're unproductive. [00:14:25] June Low: Okay. I have to say this is really figuring out how to use all the funnel software. So India, because sometimes the video training is really long. So what I do is that it's I'm trying, I just try to search it in the videos in YouTube. [00:14:40] I find that it's faster that way. And then by the second thing is that I realized the things that I wasted is because I tried to figure things out on my own. Lite we could have leveraged so many other people's time and also strengths together. Like I learned from Martin. I learned from everybody else when I know where our [00:15:00] strength is. [00:15:00] So if let's say you're just relying on yourself that you think that's, everything, yeah. Just no, not going to grow. So I wish that I actually studied Groove much earlier than I should. I wish that I see the opportunity back then, but. Yeah. Now, not that it's nothing that is too late. [00:15:15] So it bless you guys joining right now. It's still very early as well. [00:15:19] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. And I think, especially as long as GrooveFunnels has this lifetime license or this lifetime offer that they have, it's Oftentimes, the one thing that I noticed is yeah, transitioning from a job to a full-time income or like building this cycle. [00:15:34] It takes a lot of time. And lot of people telling me like, yeah, I cannot afford to spend $300 per month for something like ClickFunnels or like even $100. And yeah, with GrooveFunnels you just pay once and you can build this over time and that's so amazing. Yeah, [00:15:52] June Low: totally [00:15:52] Martin Boeddeker: agree. Do you think any other tools except GrooveFunnels or resources that you think are critical to succeed? [00:15:59][00:16:00] Yeah. When starting this journey. I [00:16:02] June Low: think Anna critical things is actually followed the right mentor. Like you guys have, let's say you guys have been pulling Martin his, whatever he's producing is really very awesome. So that's why a secure mentorship is really important because it's going to show success Lite because along the way you have so many questions, like seriously, you have a lot of things you wanted to ask, but. [00:16:24] If last year, just doing this alone you are going to, you can do that as well, but then you are going to waste a lot of time to figuring things out on your own. So that's why seeking mentorship is definitely one of the advice I would ask everyone to join in. And then secondly is really be active in the Groove Groove Groove community itself, because there are a lot of opportunities inside of Groove communities. [00:16:47]The more people you help in the community, the more money you are going to make. Okay. If let's say you are just doing, they're sitting there without doing anything, money is not going to come to you. [00:16:57] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Any advice? So maybe I [00:17:00] would really like this training to be as much value as possible. [00:17:03] Let's say we have decided, yeah. GrooveFunnels is the right tool for us. It can solve so many problems. How do we go about like finding the people who benefit from this? Or like what you're even not. Start with GrooveFunnels because I think it's so important to make a decision, but it's so hard. It's so easy to get overwhelmed. [00:17:22] So what's your opinion there, especially as someone you, you still use ClickFunnels for example? I think, but yeah so how to make this decision, what to focus on. [00:17:33] June Low: Okay. Pick a niche. This niche can be this niche that you want to serve, that you want to promote. GrooveFunnels that's for example, like this niche, you don't have to like, think about very difficult. [00:17:45] Why you need to do is set. You really sit down and at least now the networks that you have for example, Do you happen to know anyone who owns like a Facebook or it can be your family members? Or do you happen to know anyone who is [00:18:00] like an Instagram influencer, or do you happen to know anyone who is inside of any business associations? [00:18:06]Because ultimately Groove funnels is helping business owners or entrepreneurs or coaches to help them to get more clients and get more sales conversion, and try to process. There are so many different products that assist them to do it. So if I say, this people like maybe in a business association, it can be a physical or it can be Digital. [00:18:27]So if let's say a no Nolan, why? Like, why not? You partner with them? So actually Start create awareness. Lite why they need a funnel in the first place, because in order to make sure that you're able to Affiliate successfully, I think first awareness must be there. And after that, you must be willing to give values in terms of, Hey, teaching them. [00:18:48] What's the difference between like funnels and websites. And from teaching them, like getting them to have the aha moment like, Oh, that what funnels works right now, you are giving values. [00:19:00] And as when they understand better, then you can later on introduce the GrooveFunnels to them. So the first thing I will do is actually start with network. [00:19:08] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. I think that's so important what you brought up here, because one thing that I see in our people not a lot of people emphasizes that you really also need to yeah. Have your business model in place. For example, there's people like us who really produce content on a daily basis, which is important, but this also like. [00:19:27] Real business owners. They do not need to produce content every day because they run their business, but they still need a website. And there's basically two ma two ways to make money.  A, as I see it because you're either work with business owners and charge them for your services, like building a website and, or like just providing a template and building a website and charge for this, or you can be an influencer like you and me, and that's really where you need to go get out and. [00:19:55] Yeah, a huge yeah. Build your own tribe, but you're following and both of [00:20:00] these ways can be successful, but it's where hard to execute them both at the same time, especially if you're starting out. [00:20:07] June Low: Yeah. So maybe what you can do is that you can just pick like what Martin state, you can just pick one direction. [00:20:13] I will usually when I started I picked the direction that's I felt like it's easier to start with. So what I did is that I start a new Facebook profile because I know that a lot of people out there, when they're first starting out, they will say this kind of comment and say, but then I don't want to have my friends and family know that I'm mentoring to something new. [00:20:30] I know a lot of us having that doubt because we want to be successful. Then we want to shout out the success rates. So don't worry if Leslie are just not comfortable in doing that. Why not starting like a new Facebook profile where you're only adding your targets, meaning whoever you think fits into become your perspective and who will be like a future bias to become your friends. [00:20:53] And then after that, right on a daily basis. How as many friends as possible start as many conversations as possible [00:21:00] because eventually in a sup quantity games, it's actually a number of games. Like the more people you reach out, the higher chances they are. And the more that you will understand how Groove work, like how it help people, then you get to convert them better. [00:21:15] So right now you will have Lite quantity and you have, you're learning to be quantitative very same time. Then over time, August at ups and I you're able to convert better. [00:21:25] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, I think that's so important. What you said there, here as well, because I see the, one of the biggest mistakes is if somebody is starting out, they think about all this strategy is working for Martin or this strategy is working for June or like for fall for this guy or whatever. [00:21:40] And they do not start really looking at the assets. That they already have the connections they already have, because if you're starting from scratch, it will take much longer till you see some kind of success. But if you start with what you already have, then you can build on top of this. [00:21:58] June Low: Yeah. [00:22:00] [00:22:00] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. [00:22:00]Now let me have a look at my neck.  Is there any other things that you would like to add? Once we have our business model down and we focused on our niche and decided yeah, we want to promote GrooveFunnels so what's other tips that you can give groups us. [00:22:17] June Low: Okay. So just now we mentioned that on everyday basis, you must reach out to people. [00:22:21]And our third thing, I would also advise us that you must have a good offer. Okay. You have to structure a really good offer. What do I mean by that? There are a lot of people actually selling, let's say you're promoting goofiness at the same time. So you have to ask yourself this question. Why do your friends or anyone who are interested in Groove they should buy from you. [00:22:44] All right. Is that because you gave them like special technology support or because you have a Course that you're going to get them to try to process. So by structuring a good offer can help you to close much better and faster [00:23:00] because. Eventually you don't discount, but then you add up the values to make it like a no-brainer offer that people just sat with you directly. [00:23:08] So I believe that all offers has to come with an urgency. That's my I'm not saying you are going to structure any good offers that maybe you want to offer, like your coaching hours or you want to offer, like something like the software, your offer for free when it's out. And do you remember attach a urgency, a timeline so that they feel like this is a limited time offer, then they have to get from you instantly. [00:23:30] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, I think that's also, and that's why affiliate marketing is a great way because we can just look at offers that are out there that are really good on their own. And then we add our own spin on this. I'll just as I'm doing this interviews, for example, for people who sign up with GrooveFunnels and then that's a reason why people should buy this, offer this great offer that already exist in the market and buy it from you because that's in the end. [00:23:56] They need to have a reason to buy it from you. So if you start [00:24:00] in your personal network, the reason is because they already know and trust you. But if you're going to a more like market that does not know you, you want to provide some extra value that they can get. Only from you. And I think that's so important. [00:24:14] And that's why I really also liked that you like this mentorship that you brought up a couple of times, because that's what I'm doing right now as well. I'm creating a lot of value with this interviews about then I will have a Norfolk. We eventually were TA teach people like this same process that I'm using right now. [00:24:33] And this is something that I will sell, but I started a really simple with it. Looking at a great offer, click GrooveFunnels and then yeah, attached my bonuses to it and gave people a reason to buy from me. And that's how I was able to build a full-time income. Two, is there any particular story or case study or an example that you'd like to share that really sums up what we've been talking about so far? [00:24:59] June Low: So what [00:25:00] the case study is that right? I think that Martin has better case study than me, but at what I realized that. So I started this book funnel up in like a one to two months kind of journey. It has been really awesome. The only thing that I regret is. Not doing it much earlier. So if let's say you guys you're watching it and then you're still thinking over it's really time to really just drop everything else. [00:25:24] Just focus on GrooveFunnels because this is how the game plan is working. Like the earlier that you draw in the battery is, and then the second thing is that's always focused on creating values, not to focus on Hey. When I met 1:00 AM able to get it for sale when I may be able to get a Lite fifth sale. [00:25:44] Because when you're I keep on thinking about sale, your mindset actually changed because you can only see the money you can All you will be doing actions that keep on chasing after the money. But then when you actually giving values, you start publishing. Yeah, [00:26:00] attract people who want to follow you naturally. [00:26:03] And you just want to just tell them what is so good about GrooveFunnels help them to debunk the tech issues and they are going to buy from you eventually. So that will be my experience so [00:26:14] Martin Boeddeker: far. Exactly. And this is even like the content of a post I just put out yeah. Today as where I told people when I got started promoting GrooveFunnels, I did not have this assets. [00:26:25] My websites were not ranking at that point because nobody knew about GrooveFunnels. Nobody was searching for GrooveFunnels and what I did, I just. Got into the Facebook group and provided as much value as I possibly can. And then I get up, I got feedback like, Hey, Martin I already signed up for GrooveFunnels. [00:26:43] I would have laughed to buy through you because you're so helpful. And that was my main strategy. I know if I have 10 to 20 people, one of them will buy eventually for me, but this also helped to build like my, my, my cloud so to speak in the GrooveFunnels group, [00:27:00] because like people notice that. [00:27:02] for being helpful. And I get the screenshots from people like on Facebook who said Hey, Martin, you're so helpful, but I did not buy from you. And then I just asked, Hey, can I grab this screenshot? And this would help me as well, because then other people yeah, who are on the fence might buy from me because they already know that I'm helpful. [00:27:20] And so I get that the social proof as so I got something from the people I have. Even though I did not get money, but I got this social proof, which is so important as well. [00:27:31] June Low: Pro say agree. That is so really a Martin. [00:27:33]Martin Boeddeker: So it's there. Is there anything I haven't asked you about? Yeah. Generating, yeah. [00:27:38] Full-time income online or what? Yeah. Is there anything I haven't asked you? [00:27:43] June Low: No, you have asked everything perfectly. And for whoever out there really start taking actions right now, because it's really, because right now, a lot of business, they want to move from offline to online. So let's say a muster Groove funnel earlier, you can actually start a digital [00:28:00] marketing agency, helping people to build funnels on GrooveFunnels. [00:28:03]So that is one of the business models, which is like really needed right now. [00:28:07] Martin Boeddeker: Okay.  Last question from my side, because I'm really interested in like you, you started the affiliate marketing game. So what is your strategy for the next couple of months? Moving forward, you said like you're regretted not getting into Groove funnels earlier. [00:28:22]So what are you. Focusing on which strategy did you choose after? Yeah, you've now built some income with affiliate marketing, but it's, what's are you building an agency or like building websites or coaching or what's your actual strategy from now on. [00:28:38] June Low: And focusing on coaching. So what I do is that, and I just finished creating a course around this so that I want to help more people because I realize I'm stuck a blessing. [00:28:48] I want to carry out one-to-one conversation because I mastered a skill. So I was like, thinking, how do I able to serve more people at a more scalable manner? So the only way that I can think of is [00:29:00] actually by creating really videos of courses out there. So that's where I'm on Lite together on this. [00:29:05] Then the next moving I'm going to do is actually focusing on my coaching for program and by really showing people I'm really using Groove to all my coaching program. So along the way, I learned so much and so happy to be part of this company team. [00:29:19] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Yeah, that's awesome. Because I think that really shows well, what we've been talking about and what I said is first, you really need to start out helping people. [00:29:27] You cannot, if you're not an expert already and really studied some topic for 10 years, then the way to get out and Trust. Todd is to really have people one-on-one just like without having huge expectations of income. But then as you get more  as you build more knowledge and more skills, more confidence, then it's a time to build an online course and sell that to more people on scale. [00:29:50] And this is the pattern that I've seen, like across all the people I interviewed from the prey to Summit as well. They first. Got a skill, but the skill, as you said, [00:30:00] get to know how to work with GrooveFunnels and then they moved on to creating courses about that and a lot of strategies that you're taught and and yeah, who will buy these courses, the causes the people who will buy these courses are typically the people who are, where you were several months ago, for example, because it's important to learn from people who already do the work. [00:30:19] And then you might ask like why it's not. Everybody doing this and the reason why not everybody is doing this because a lot of people fail. What June recommended, published every day for 24, 360 days per year. I think it's okay to take five people five days off. But yeah, like in, in the end  it's really about yeah, I need to help people one-on-one and then you can leverage this and go to it into a more like one to many environment. [00:30:48] And that's how I got started. That's how you got started and how a lot of other people got started as well. But in the beginning, it's really important. Yeah. To talk to people to really find their needs [00:31:00] and find out what solutions are there? Maybe we can match that and. Get some affiliate commissions. [00:31:05] And even if we do not, we get the feedback from people. And this is so important because and if you get the feedback, make sure you grab it. This is probably the biggest mistake that you can make when you're starting out helping people. But even if you do not get money, you want to get their testimonials. [00:31:23] June Low: Yeah, totally agree. Yeah. I missed the out part. Yeah. But then you summarize it very wisely because without have the testing with the testimonials, not only you get the field to move on further, you also can get this testimonial to convert even more [00:31:37] Martin Boeddeker: customers. Okay. Awesome.  Tell us where can people find out more about you and what you're doing? [00:31:44] Okay. [00:31:44] June Low: You guys can go to my website, it's cultural, but have your dot June low.co. Or you can just add in Facebook happy. Okay. [00:31:51] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you so much for this interview June. [00:31:56] June Low: Thanks for having me. Martin. [00:31:58] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. [00:32:00] Awesome. Yeah, I think this went really well. Okay. [00:32:04] June Low: If let's say there's something that I said in between that shouldn't be on it. [00:32:07] Just cut it. Okay. No, [00:32:08]Martin Boeddeker: No. It's fine.  Think I even took a little bit more space, but I really wanted to emphasize like seeing what you've done and then say  at my bigger P perspective and bigger picture. And this is something that I like to do. [00:32:20] June Low: Oh yeah. One question for you. [00:32:22] Yo y'all website right now is the focus is actually on what Press rates. Yeah, I okay. I have, I am thinking I want to start a blog, but I do not know whether it should I use GrooveBlog or what Press. I want to know your [00:32:37] Martin Boeddeker: thoughts. Okay. What do you want to optimize for that? It's really  the question that determines whether you should use WordPress or whether you should Groove. [00:32:47] GrooveBlog so what's your goal with the block? [00:32:50] June Low: Okay. My goal is the blog because I have slides daily videos. I'm going to turn them into transcriptions written transcription. So right now I want to explain, like I [00:33:00] have a written transcription followed by a video in the work Press of blocks. So it's more like another Avenue for my content. [00:33:08] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Lite I think in that case, yeah, GrooveBlog will be good enough because WordPress really shines when yeah, you want to yeah. Want to rank for SEO like GrooveFunnels can work for that as well. And I think it will be good enough, but if you're creating daily content, that's typically content that's created, like to engage your audience to engage with your audience. [00:33:30] And it's not like SEO content is. Different. It's just  YouTube live videos are different from the videos that you put on YouTube to rank for certain keywords.  So it's really  key keeping, keeping it simple. And that's why I would probably recommend that too. [00:33:45] Like I do not know when you want to start. That's another thing to keep in mind. But right now, like you can even keep it. Can you keep it simple and just make sure that it fits your workflow. So for example, right now you can just [00:34:00] probably have a template of GroovePages and that you can use for four blog posts and then just copy them and put the video there, put the the transcription bill below that. [00:34:11] And then, yeah. You can share that with your audience and do not worry about the as feed and ranking on Google, because typically these kind of videos that you're doing live, they will not ranked as well. They're really good for engaging with people live and the people who are on by while they're watching this, but they're typically not really good for SEO and the VA the value is typically not worth it. [00:34:33] And the content that you create for SEO is typically the ones. That you really Polish where it's really long form and really having the right. Yeah. Lite like editing the videos for YouTube SEO. That's where you put a lot of effort because you want them to be there. Long-term [00:34:50] June Low: yeah. That's yeah, that's a good point. [00:34:52] I like the idea that creating a template GroovePages I will look that up. And also when you started to promote proof, [00:34:59]Martin Boeddeker: I [00:35:00] started in March, end of March. Wow. [00:35:04] June Low: That's awesome. Hope I can catch up because not just where I started everything. [00:35:09] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Lite I have a long history of yeah. Even got coached by Mike Filsaime personally. [00:35:14] So I have a long history of, yeah. In 2015. 10 and 16. Oh, what occasions?  Created the most amazing All forever and it was his former business partner. Andy Jenkins and they were promoting high-performance Academy from Brendon Burchard and their bonus was if I buy Brent Bush hots high performance Academy for $1,000, they will all fall. [00:35:40] Andy and Mike who were already successful with WebinarJam offered one year of coach personal coaching with everyone who bought this offer [00:35:50] June Low: one year. Oh my God. That's insane. Okay. And one last thing Martin I want to invite, I'm not sure whether you're being Trust I'm going to invite you to my [00:36:00] amazing entrepreneurs show where I have it on the Whitney. [00:36:04] About weekly basis where it will be like an interview for about a maximum is going to take up 30 minutes where you'll be separated for about 20 minutes. Just to tell a story and how you started similar to this. And also 10 minutes, it's actually a tech issue. I think we'll be interested. [00:36:19]Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, what was the last 10 minutes? [00:36:20]June Low: The 10 minutes usually is opening, chill. Maybe we are setting a tech you to a wet, can't be sure that my issue. So it will be taking maximum 30 minutes. [00:36:31] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. AIA? No like  the content, like what's the content part again, of the 30 minutes, [00:36:36] June Low: the content is really chill. [00:36:37] It's talking about okay. My audience, they are very newbie. Some of them, they haven't even started taking actions. So the content would be very focusing on telling your backstory, who were you before you are you right now and what makes you make up positions? And then just try out your journey and then your advice for newbies want to start out? [00:36:59] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. [00:37:00] Awesome. Yeah, I can definitely do that. And we can definitely talk about that. And yeah I see if I can have my program up till then that, that will be amazing because I w what I really want to do is really share my story and then say Hey, for me, you can buy all the stuff. [00:37:17] Checklists and stuff that I did. And B, because I paid so much, like I bought like John Lee Dumas program for podcasting and then a couple of programs for virtual summit and like all the stuff. And now I figured everything out and now I want to give this to people as well, because. In the end is it's SEO, sapped. [00:37:37]It's really about publishing. But what I found about summits that works so well is if you create this interviews and you rush them to a timeline, then you can provide them for free afterwards, you turn them into a real product. So we have a product created that you can then offer as a bonus. [00:37:55] And I think like the strategies, no, nobody is doing this right now and [00:38:00] it will work so well. And Yeah, [00:38:02] June Low: it's very smart. It's very smart because if we can get her a lot of experts, like giving like really expertise and at the same time, like still giving them as well as. [00:38:11] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Maybe because especially if you're your stay, I think it's especially like it works in every area, but it will work especially well in the make money online world, because people are really like a lot of people, either they are completely new and that's okay. [00:38:26] But if they are a little bit more experienced, they notice it's not that easy and it takes some time and effort. And then you really need to strategy too. To execute and stand out in this market. And if Lite my strategy is really is really, and I will execute this myself because if you get to any of the high selling online programs and then you interview  three or four or five of their most successful students and turn that into, Summit like a Fast. [00:38:54] That like lessons learned from this program. And then I think that's an amazing bonus [00:39:00] for everybody. Who's for example, I do not know buying product launch formula program that's on there for four years, but if you. Actually interviewed the students who have been successful, you can say yeah, what were the the most common problems with this program and high we'll show you how to avoid them or something like this. [00:39:17] June Low: That is awesome. So if that's there, I can just send you a link later on. Okay. Is that okay? Awesome. Yeah. If let's say anything else you need from me, just let me know. [00:39:26]Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. One, one moment. Can you do we, we're still recording. Can you do a short summary about the interview that we did? Like just one, one minute, about a super summary of the things we covered and talked about doing the interview like the most important steps, like the three steps or something, just like a summary. [00:39:47] Okay. [00:39:48] June Low: Sure. Start it's now, do I need to have any intro or outro? Okay.  In essence, a summary, if let's say you guys are starting out, firstly, it's really. Start publishing [00:40:00] daily. It doesn't have to be all a video format. You can just choose one platform. It can be your Facebook, your Instagram, your link in whichever you're comfortable with. [00:40:09] And then you can pick a form of publishing. It can be written format. It let's say you're a written format. You can pick like a block or audio to the podcast. Or video, you can do Facebook live, pick one platform and start publishing daily. Or if I still can't make it daily, at least like he asked constant consistent as possible. [00:40:27] And a second tip is. You need to outreach to as many people as possible at the very beginning, you may not make any sale bites. All right. Because those kind of outreach will go in to get your experience. Okay. So from that kind of experience, you'll start to learn, Hey, what automatics. When you are starting to reach out to other people, it will work better. [00:40:48]And the third thing I want you guys to actually go and we play the Groove funnels, at least a full funnel that do our prop with, because we don't using the product yourself. You can't really tell other people [00:41:00] how to use it. You need to use it yourself and to understand what kind of pain point that it is actually helping to solve for your niche markets. [00:41:09] My understanding that and combine everything and to outreach to people in your niche and giving them the right solutions. I'm sure you're going to be successful. [00:41:19] Martin Boeddeker: Awesome. And Yeah. Okay. Can you do a short promotion clip about what we talked? So Lite basically something that I could post in my group or my profile. [00:41:30] I cut this out. So there, you would need like an intro and just like really super short summary. What people will learn from the interview. [00:41:37]June Low: I couldn't deal with that. How short I'll show you one. [00:41:40]Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, 10, 20, 30 seconds. Something like that. Okay. [00:41:45] June Low: What was the name of Summit [00:41:47] Martin Boeddeker: just call it GrooveFunnels training. [00:41:49] June Low: Okay. Let me try 10 seconds of summary of what they gained from this crew funnel [00:41:54] Martin Boeddeker: training. Just keep it under one minute. Let's put it like this. So you do not have to. Yeah, like [00:42:00] it just Free like freely. Hi, I'm Julia. I'm an expert in and in my amazing session with Martin we talked about this, make sure to sign up for his free GrooveFunnels training. [00:42:11] June Low: Hey guys, this is June because I was running in June. So I'm winning this. Free training with Martin on this GrooveFunnels. So if let's say we want to learn all the tips and tricks and a secret sauce, make sure you sign up for this free training and you're, I'm sure that you're going to gain so much benefit from it. [00:42:29] So see your insight, Dan, take care. Bye. [00:42:32] Martin Boeddeker: Okay, awesome. Thank you. Yeah, that's it so far. Do you need anything from me? Yeah, like the interview you will send me that with like we are Facebook or  yeah, properly. They are right. [00:42:46] June Low: Yeah, I would just send you the links on it. I can pick the time that you want. [00:42:49] Is that okay? [00:42:50] Martin Boeddeker: Okay, awesome. And yeah, if you would not mind like for example, one thing that I think, especially what would be great fit for your audience show people like maybe share the [00:43:00] link to my training.  Can give you that as well to show people that it's not hard to build a funnel. [00:43:06] If you keep it really simple, that's something that I want to show people that it's like when I was overwhelmed, like my landing page is super simple. It's just like two pictures with a signup form and the simpler you keep it. And the simpler it becomes to actually build. This being, because for example, if I look at your lead magnet where you sell, the I think like new bus, $7 Pro Product or something like this is like super well-designed and that's really that's almost intimidating, but if people know Hey, this guy's using different and he's teaching people to keep it simple. [00:43:41] Like I think that might be really inspiring. [00:43:43] June Low: Yeah, that will be, I am because yes, actually yesterday I just done four hours recording of my own Buphenyl training. So it may be a little bit conflict of interest. So I might not be able to share it because I spent about the past one week about really play the Buphenyl. [00:43:59] And what are [00:44:00] the two terrorists who produce that? So yeah, it might not be possible is that if let's say it's already view or you have any other lead magnet that is not related to booth training. [00:44:08] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah.  The, you can send them yeah, to, to my Affiliate like to my Summit Simon summary for for the Pareto Summit that will also work [00:44:17] June Low: Summit is get somebody to get [00:44:19] Martin Boeddeker: okay. [00:44:19] Yeah. About yeah, it never had somebody asked like this, but yeah, it makes sense. So Trust. Yeah. [00:44:40] Okay. Yeah, like I think yeah I know, like I will call it like a secret backdoor. Access telling people like they can access, get access to the prey, to Summit. So you see everything that I've done there and say like it's secret. So people cannot register for this right now. And so it's really special for your [00:45:00] audience as well. [00:45:05] June Low: We were again, then. [00:45:06]Martin Boeddeker: I did not understand what, [00:45:08] June Low: Oh, I'm sorry. I said that we will connect again then. Okay. See you then. Thanks. [00:45:14] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Yeah. Have a great day. Bye.

Suddenly Groove - Expert Interview with Kathy Walls_Remastered [00:00:00] Martin Boeddeker: Hello and welcome to SuddenlyGroove your independent GrooveFunnels podcast.  In this really special episode, I will interview Katie Walls and we will talk about what it takes yeah. To promote GrooveFunnels, to succeed with GrooveFunnels. And we covered a lot of ground in this in this episode, Katie because of her experience with GrooveFunnels she was, yeah. [00:00:21] One of the hosts of the Groove-A-Thron  you might have seen her in Mike Filsaime's house. And yeah, she's a top GrooveFunnels Affiliate and has a lot of groups does to build their affiliate programs and become a successful with GrooveFunnels. I hope you enjoyed this episode and let's get right into it. [00:00:40] Hello. Welcome to this free GrooveFunnels training with Kathy Walls. Somebody I've noticed all over the place with GrooveFunnels in the group funnel group, she has her own GrooveFunnels funnels group and she will definitely have something to teach us about how to build a full-time income with GrooveFunnels. [00:00:57]Hello, Kathy. Hey great to have you [00:01:00] here on the show. [00:01:01] Kathy Walls: Thank you. I'm very happy to be here for you. Martin and everybody watching. [00:01:06] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Like I, I saw you in the group that's on the 40 day , mega Summit. It was almost like the Summit there from GrooveFunnels where you were presenting with engineers. [00:01:16] So tell us a little bit, how did you about your background? Like, how did you get started with GrooveFunnels. [00:01:22]Kathy Walls: It was very interesting because I come from an e-commerce background.  For the past decade I've been doing, I had my own print on demand stores. I designed everything. And a couple of years ago I was like, I need to expand my portfolio. [00:01:37] I'm always looking for something else to add to what I'm doing. I came into the funnel world a couple of years ago. I didn't even know funnels existed. I didn't know mentorship existed for what we do online. And I came in and I fell in love with what was going on. And then I, I started growing my fan base and [00:02:00] becoming the brand. [00:02:01]I became the brand and I was working with another funnel builder, and I'm not tech savvy. So I can figure it out if I sit and spend a lot of time on it. But I was noticing with the one I was with, I had to have, all these extra things just to make the software work. [00:02:18]Martin Boeddeker: I guess you're referring to ClickFunnels in this case. [00:02:23] Kathy Walls: Yeah. I didn't know. I didn't want to really say it. I want to come. They've been very good to me, so I don't want to, it wasn't anything and gets them, except for the fact that I had to have an auto responder, then I had to have the Zapier and then I had to have all of these extra things. [00:02:36]And because I'm not savvy, I was like, Really starting to get a little frustrated. And not only that I have an, a degree in accounting and I've done lots of startup businesses. So numbers are my thing. I like to save money. I'd like to be efficient and everything. And so we were my husband and I were looking for something different and we came [00:03:00] across an interview with Mike Filsaime and Mike Long. [00:03:03] And we were in our car. We were driving six hours to see our main, our new grand baby. And he was watching this webinar with them and he was like, Oh my gosh, we have to do this because the Affiliate thing on itself is good. And I'm like what is it? What's it do? And then he tells me, and I'm like, Oh my gosh, I need to do this because all of the possibilities and everything that's going to be with it. [00:03:26]The mail, the blog, the videos, all this stuff that's coming in with brew. And I joined it. For the software, because I wanted to be able to save money monthly. Because I had Shopify stores. I had Active Campaign I had all of this, all this extra stuff. Calendly all of it. [00:03:47] And I in two 97 a month just for my funnel builder. And whenever I was like, Oh my gosh, I can do the one-time payment. And I'm done to me. I was like, okay. Sold [00:04:00] we signed up in the car and then came the thing that I was like, Oh my gosh, I have to tell everybody I'm saving all this money. And here's what I have, and next, whenever the Affiliate part blew up for me. [00:04:13] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, that sounds like a typical story, especially like for GrooveFunnels for me, it was a little bit different because I was already using, Kartra, which was Mike Filsaime PR company and then everything works. And now yeah, he's building this new company where it's building it on a new technology platform. [00:04:31] So of course the development takes time and sometimes right now, when I'm using Groove funds, it's like, Oh, I wish it was already there. But knowing Mike. So same I know this calm and this will be better in Kartra, but for me right now, I decided to keep my main business on Kartra because they are, everything just works. [00:04:50] But especially in the pre-chat we talked a little bit about that. People, especially who are new to, to GrooveFunnels and new, to online marketing they over-complicate [00:05:00] things. And w what was your experience with Groove funneled so far? [00:05:04] Kathy Walls: I tell you whenever I first signed in did GrooveFunnels [00:05:07]it was still really new. It was in the end of may, beginning of June of 2020, whenever I logged in and. I had to get out of the mindset of the ClickFunnels mindset, because I was used to building on there and I could throw something together pretty quick. Once I scratched that out of my mind and just started, I was able to build a landing page and, like 45 minutes. [00:05:33]So I was able to do it really quick. And it was easy. I, you have to be patient because it is in beta mode right now. So there are some issues with. Whatever bugs pop up every once in a while, but they're really quick at fixing them whenever you report them. They're like lickety-split But just building a simple landing page, just so you can get comfortable working inside the software is what really matters. [00:05:59], my [00:06:00] thing, I have a thing of, if you don't use the product, how can you promote the product? Cause you need to know the product that you're promoting. So I, if people I'm just surprised a lot of people are trying to do this without even opening the software and trying to build it out, just start playing with it. [00:06:19] Whenever I started doing that. I got comfortable with it and got more comfortable with it. And now, I can go in and whip something up pretty quick. Yeah. [00:06:27] Martin Boeddeker: And that's exactly what I did in the beginning as well.  Like for everything I do, I try to do even if I'm not using GrooveFunnels for my bait business, I always. [00:06:36] Try to create like some kind of case studies to really say yeah, this is possible. So I know how the software works. What's possible. What's not possible. And yeah, that's something. And I also realized like, if I like. What I really like about GrooveFunnels is that it forces me to keep things simple because the complicated stuff is not there yet. [00:06:57] But if I keep it simple, I just ask [00:07:00] myself what's the most essential things that I need, which are typically like a landing page and then connect it to GrooveMail if a Pro Member like, yeah, I think that it's even like Free for Free members as well. So just the landing page, connecting it to email. And then if I have my own product, I can sell my own product with GrooveSell and like the rest of the Sales just happens with the connections that I built with my audience. [00:07:23]Kathy Walls: Yeah. And I think if people think of it, like building a house, you would build a normal size home before you build a mansion. [00:07:31]So you don't go out there and try to build a mansion, immediately you have to get the experience under your belt to be able to work up to that. So I think what this has done and it's done it for me is it's brought me back to the basics. So that way I could make sure that I understand. The entire outline of what we're doing. [00:07:52] And like you said, it makes you keep it simple at first, right? It makes you keep it simple. But this is not [00:08:00] even to say that if you're advanced in this area, that you can't make an advanced looking funnel and a beautiful looking funnel right out the bat or landing page, whatever you want to call it for whatever business you're doing. [00:08:14]The ability though, for those that are just starting. It does keep it simple for you, if you're. Skill set is higher and you want to design on Photoshop and throw it in there. You can do that. [00:08:27] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. And actually, that's a great tag that I was just want to lay out. If you want to design it really beautiful, use a tool, like an external tool, like Canva, just transform the graphic into an image and put it on your side. [00:08:40] That way you're like, it looks good. And yeah. Yeah. It's much simpler than trying to build something with the yeah. With landing page builder, but like what's, where do you see it right now for somebody who's new to GrooveFunnels? So all my Marketing. Where do you see  the big opportunities and yeah, maybe like they, they are still [00:09:00] working in a full-time full-time job to transition to a full-time income online. [00:09:05]Kathy Walls: There's so many different opportunities with Groove files. You can do the Affiliate program themselves, sell their stuff. You still need an audience to talk to. So if you are in your nine to five job, yet you want to reach out to let's just say you have a passion for cooking and you want to, reach out to other people that are passionate about this, then maybe they want to write a cookbook or have recipes or whatever who, whoever your audience is, you can. [00:09:37] Sell this product for any niche anywhere, but you need your audience that you're targeting. You can also, if you have your own passion and you want to build your own courses or do some online teaching of whatever it is, word working, pets, the sky's the limit with this. [00:09:56] You can bring in your own products. You can sell other people's [00:10:00] products, you can sell Groove products. If you know your audience, you know your passion, then you can do anything with Groove. At all, from e-comm to your own stuff to other people's. [00:10:13] Martin Boeddeker: Okay.  Where do you see the biggest challenges that somebody like? [00:10:17] Especially the beginning of phases when they're starting, [00:10:20]Kathy Walls: They don't know who they're talking to. It's not the software, it's not anything to do with Groove or any other software at that point. It's they don't know. They just I know I want to make money online because I don't want to have to be stuck. [00:10:34] Going back to work. I don't want to work for somebody else. I want to do my own thing. So we usually start, and I it's funny, cause I just had this conversation with someone because they're like, I want to make money online. Okay. Okay. What do you want to do? I don't know, just as long as it makes money, I don't care. [00:10:52] No, you can't do that. Because if you talk to everybody, you talk to no one, right? So the biggest challenge that I see everybody that's [00:11:00] starting out is they don't know what they want to do and who they want to target and talk to. But once you figure those out, then you'll be able to utilize the tools. [00:11:11] Out there such as Groove funnels. Your Active, Campaign your, all that other stuff for your business. So you need to know what your business is before you even get started in stuff like Groove and all that other. [00:11:25] Martin Boeddeker: I think that's so important what you said here, because I like a lot of people do not know that yeah. [00:11:31] Offline business and online business are more, more or less the same and everything that you see out there, like advertisements for software and for funnel building and stuff like this. Like even if I, when I go out right now and I'm always amazed at like real businesses say, just have this. Super simple websites and they just need basically a website where people can find their telephone number to call them. [00:11:55] And that's their whole funnel. And everything above that is [00:12:00] already like really advanced and most people do not realize that's still like how the majority of business gets. Stan. So if we, maybe we start with something like an office job, that's not really related to something like, what's your tip to find like the first entry point into starting an online business [00:12:21] Kathy Walls: first entry point is to really sit and ask yourself, what do you want to do? [00:12:26]Where do you want to be? And where can you see yourself getting up to do? And every day, because as adults. We get stuck in this mindset of whatever we have to do to make money for our household bills. So we go through, even I was guilty of that. Whenever I was in my twenties, we started our own business and it did really well, but then we've seen a decline in the economy. [00:12:49] So we got out of that. So then I asked myself, what do I want to do? First of all, I didn't even say that. I said, what am I good at? I was good at numbers and [00:13:00] bookkeeping and all that other stuff. So I decided to get a job in a corporate office doing taxes and accounting and all that other stuff. Wow. [00:13:10] Going to college to get my degree. So I went into survival mode, right? Cause you go into survival mode. I got to do whatever I need to do to feed my help feed my two kids and my husband and house and everything. That's the mode we go into as an adult. So we have to get out of that mindset of, okay, I'm in this mindset of, I'm just doing this job because I have to, it pays really good. [00:13:35]I hate it, but it pays good. And now what do you want to do? What can you see yourself doing? What is that passion that you, that you know is inside of you when you start feeling that. And you start, you really ask yourself that and what can you do? You will do it after hours, right? [00:13:56] You'll do it on the weekends. You will lose sleep [00:14:00] because it's something you're passionate about. And when you do that, then you can grab this group funnels. You can grab group funnels and you can say. I am passionate about helping other people get on their nine to five jobs. You were in a survival mode. [00:14:15] I want to get you out of that. What do you want to do? And then maybe you're helping them guide them out of this. This realm, right? And there's this role, or maybe it's, you are a master craftsman, on the side and that's what you're passionate about. So you want to bring that hobby into a business, then you grab Groove bottles and then you build your landing pages. [00:14:39] You build up your audience on social media, and then you just start telling people about it. Once you have to have that passion first. And you have to have that idea and then you can grab a GrooveFunnels is so great for this, because not only can you build it to build your business, but then you can sell [00:15:00] the software to other people and have two businesses in one. [00:15:04]And then you just keep adding to it. [00:15:07] Martin Boeddeker: And I think that's really great because what I've seen, and this is my observation, there's basically like for people who want to succeed with GrooveFunnels, there's two, two ways. Either you really build a passionate business, which, where you build your own audience, which really takes some time. [00:15:24]Probably, maybe even here. And the other one is to work directly with businesses who need the technology who currently may have this website that I talked about, where it's just a website, which is pretty ugly. Maybe they had a friend do it where there's just a telephone number. So like the people can order the garden gardening service. [00:15:44] So I liked  whatever it is. That you're offering. And like typically what I've seen is like  the business to business world, they're you make money faster, but the yeah, the passion route is much more fulfilling, but both work and you need to know the difference. Yeah. [00:15:59] Kathy Walls: Both of them. [00:16:00] Yeah. You definitely need to know the difference. And not only that, I see a lot of people, they are like I don't even know how to build a website or anything. Grab the free GrooveFunnels account and just start playing with it. And then whenever you're talking to these. Businesses. And it's surprising because some of these smaller businesses in local areas, don't some of them don't even have a website or a landing page. [00:16:25] Maybe they have a Facebook page, but they don't have any kind of call to action. So you can go and talk to them, build them, their landing page with, a call to action on there. Now that Groove is up and going, you can connect their GrooveMail for them. And then you can start, helping them out in that arena. [00:16:45] And then you're signing them up for group funnels. Cause they're going to have their own account. And anyways, so you can go off of just building them, the landing page, offering them the software. Andy. Teaching them how to put it on their Facebook page [00:17:00] or their, market it somehow on up to doing their full social media, build out, depending on how comfortable you are with doing that, the need is everywhere. [00:17:10] It's not only online, but it's local as well. And I've seen that so much. I have so many local people reach out to me and go, how are you getting so many leads? To what you're doing. And I'm like, this is it. Groove funnels. I use Groove funnels, I've built a landing page. I talk about it on social media. [00:17:31] They go through my funnel and they're calling me, they're emailing me or, whatever the case may be for whatever I'm Marketing at that time. [00:17:39]Martin Boeddeker: I love what you just said there, because that's literally a strategy how you can get started, like completely for free. You bought your expertise. Let's say like you pick a local company in your area that has a website, but it's pretty Ackley. [00:17:55] Then you bought them a website on GrooveFunnels make it just a little bit. [00:18:00] Better like with Free stock photos or something like this. And then you say Hey, I've built this Free website. Would you like to have it for your business? And then you can say Hey, you can buy this. And I will just give you the login information and you can buy it for $200 or you buy the full package and you. [00:18:17] Costs like $1,400. And I basically just get the affiliate commission and the website is free forever and it has all these capabilities. And that's how you made your first a yeah, like roughly $600 without spending anything. Yeah. It just [00:18:34] Kathy Walls: costs you a little bit of time because you're doing the research on the business. [00:18:38] And in your building that little page out, and then you're contacting them who doesn't want a free page that can convert a lot better because it looks a little bit better. And then whenever you say, Hey, if you want to add a calendar link or you want to add, stuffs so that way they can get like a Free. [00:18:57] F on what you do, [00:19:00] and then you can just talk to him, tell him what Groove funnels platinum will do for them versus, whatever. But I know as a business person with all the capabilities that the platinum has versus just the Free Virgin. And you say, okay, here for $300, you can have this, or for $1,400, you can have all of this. [00:19:21] Martin Boeddeker: Yes. Yeah, exactly. So w I think that's such a great business model because it'd be, because it's really about  the profit first model, especially for people who do not have money who do not want to spend money, because typically it's just yeah. Putting in the time and effort. But, so that leads me to my next question. [00:19:40]Is there any mistake that you see that especially newbies new beginners in online marketing make that cost them a lot of time and wasted effort that is not necessary? [00:19:51] Kathy Walls: Yeah. A lot of them are in. Thinking and learn mode for years and years. So they're constantly buying the [00:20:00] next thing and Course, and Course has said they don't even need, because they haven't even started the beginning course. [00:20:07]Like they're skipping ahead and they're thinking, okay. But if I can know the entire thing then I can build something. A lot of it's procrastination, right? Because they overcomplicate what's going on and I think that's due to not having a direction. So if they don't start with the direction, you're going to be all over the place. [00:20:26] So I see that all the time. Secondly you don't have to be know all the answers ever. You don't have to know all the answers ever because if you. Start building and you have an issue. The nice thing about the Groove community is they're pretty quick at answering. So you can post your question inside the group. [00:20:47] Somebody who's going to have that answer for you. And some of them will even make a loop video to show you how to do what's going on. So over-thinking over-complicating and being in, in the [00:21:00] Learning mode consistently without the executing is the top three that I see all the time. [00:21:09]Martin Boeddeker: Are there any other softwares besides GrooveFunnels that people need or something like that? [00:21:15] Listen, I [00:21:16] Kathy Walls: use Chrome extensions of the yang. I have so many Chrome extensions that I'm a developer of a Chrome extension was laughing at me because I have an extension for this. And Extention to that. Depending on what you're going to do. So  for social media, I, because I'm so highly active on Facebook, I get 60 to a hundred friend requests a day. [00:21:40] So I have a social media or a Chrome extension. To help me with the friend request go through [00:21:48] Martin Boeddeker: them. So you're talking about something like friend or [00:21:50] Kathy Walls: fall or . I use groups Pro for my group. So that way I can capture emails for people that are coming into my [00:22:00] group, because I have, whenever I started. [00:22:03] Doing this. I already had my, my social media started, I've already was in it for 18 months, maybe a year and a half or so. So I had the friends built up and I had a following started just for hard work of just dropping knowledge in and helping people asking nothing in return. And then, so now people are finding me, they're wanting to find me, they want to follow me. [00:22:30] They want to get in my free group. That's just another opportunity. Whenever, you know your audience and you have this, the group to capture their email. So I use groups Pro to capture emails so that way I can continue to market to them because some of them may have Free some may not have GrooveFunnels. [00:22:48] So whenever I start talking about it and teaching and doing whatever, maybe they'll click on my link. So that's another way. Organic traffic is what I use for, as I always tell everybody. [00:23:00] Try organic first because organic allows you to get your messaging, correct. Before you start paying for ads and whatever. [00:23:11] Because if your message is all over the place and you're not making any sense to one particular niche, then you're wasting your money. I'd rather you waste your time versus your money. [00:23:22] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Because this is something that I've learned as well. And I've also been part of like startup courses from Like a, I do not know, like the most famous, like a Y Combinator or something like this. [00:23:33] And people do not realize that even big companies like Airbnb started this way, they were missing people on Craigslist, like individually in the beginning to really get the process. So this is not just something that, that we do. That's even like the companies that are now like huge, like unicorn companies. [00:23:53] That's how they. Started as well. And that's why, and then we can use Chrome extensions, like your mess. Like you, [00:24:00] you mentioned that [00:24:01] Kathy Walls: Free come out of the gate, meeting those. I had to build that up and build up my authority. To where people then just start flocking to my page and following me and asking. [00:24:12] So you're right. Andy I always look at, I don't know if you guys do this too, but whenever I'm watching commercials or something like that, I look at it in a marketing standpoint. And it's almost a curse sometimes because I can't enjoy it because I'm just like, Oh, I like how they are talking. But if you look at even Coke and Pepsi and all,  all the big Doritos, they have their audience, they know who they're talking to. [00:24:41] It's amazing how, whenever we. Bring a business online. People forget that the messaging and the audience really matters, but I think it's because the worldwide web is worldwide. Andy. Products like GrooveFunnels will work for anybody. We already [00:25:00] know that it'll work for anybody doing any, but you can sell uniforms on, Groove funnels. [00:25:06] So I think whenever people are missing out, what they're missing out on is the messaging, because they're missing out on picking that. Audience in that niche, even if you are an affiliate marketer, you still have to have a [00:25:18] Martin Boeddeker: niche. Exactly. And that's why it's so important. As you mentioned, like to really talk to people because then you will really start to understand what people need and what they're willing to pay for. [00:25:28] And then you will hear all the objections and would be because it's so easy. If we see somebody like Russell Brunson who says yeah, he talks about like funnels and scaling and paid advertisements and all of this stuff. Things, but there's like the stage before that's that something you, you must not skip because then that's where you really learn that. [00:25:48] It's not just like putting a website out there and people will buy automatically that just does not happen. [00:25:54] Kathy Walls: Yeah. I think one thing that whenever throughout this course, because e-commerce was. [00:26:00] The thing I did a lot of Andy whenever I started the print on demand business, I didn't have an audience. [00:26:06] I didn't know what I was doing. I was just looking to see what I could print on. And then I would throw a design on it and throw it up there and think, okay, I got step out there. So it's automatically it's going to sell let's. You know what, if I did have an audience, I didn't have a niche I was going after and it wasn't until I figured out who I wanted to target. [00:26:29] And how I wanted to bring across to my products that I was able to make those sales. I went from printing on anything and everything narrowed down to 10 products to a certain group of people. And whenever I did that, I was able to go, multi six figures and become a best seller on Etsy for a product. [00:26:53] And. But that was because I was able I narrowed it down. My products would work for anybody, but I still [00:27:00] narrowed it down to talk to just a certain group. Yeah. And that's the thing, whenever you're doing any business online, you have to have a group of people you're talking to. Now. [00:27:10] That's not to say that whenever you're talking to people originally with group funnels, let's just say, I want to talk to New startups. You're in, you're a startup in network marketing. You're in a new company, and you need to know how to market your product. So if I'm talking to these people this month and my products are going that way, then my messaging is going that way. [00:27:34] But maybe next year, I want to get some kid preneurs in, I just want to get some kid entrepreneurs and I'm going to chip that messaging. [00:27:43] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah, [00:27:45] Kathy Walls: it's still the same product, but I'm shifting the messaging because I've already nailed down the network marketer. So I want to expand, she can't do it all at once. [00:27:53] You have to shift it down and market to a certain group and then add the groups. [00:28:00] [00:28:00] Martin Boeddeker: Exactly. And if you're watching this and you pay attention, like you, you notice that I built this free training series just about goop funnels, because I want to launch my course on yeah. How to make a full-time income with GrooveFunnels. [00:28:14]I have a course coming up that I will lounge to the GrooveFunnels community, but later I might. I call it like how to make a full-time income by promoting free software or something for people who have never heard about GrooveFunnels. But right now it just resonates so much more with you because you're already signed up for GrooveFunnels. [00:28:31] You want to know how to make money with it. And that's why I'm interviewing like, experts like Katie here. And Just like in the beginning really have to niche down. And I'm also like all over the place, just like you, I'm talking to people and I'm inviting people personally to the training so they can have a chance to see it for what I'm doing, what I'm I have to offer, but that's that came after I, I just promoted GrooveFunnels Andy as a Product. [00:29:00] [00:28:59] So first I D I started with an affiliate product with an offer that was already great before I even considered. [00:29:09] Kathy Walls: Yeah. And that's great. Cause you'd like you just said, if you said how to make money with, a software versus Eno in going into the Groove Digital presents versus saying how to make money with group funnels. [00:29:24] Yeah. Just the title alone will make the big difference. So people need to see that and not overthink it either. Don't overthink it. If you're talking to real estate agents, make sure are you a real estate agent, and then, I can do this for you or, are you a kid premature? [00:29:41] And you want to scale to the next level,  you're calling out your people. So call out your people in your messaging now. And like I said before, whenever you start in Groove funnels and you start, cause I have so many people, I have over a thousand people in my [00:30:00] group right now. And a lot of them are like, I don't even know where to begin. [00:30:04] And I'm like, okay what do you want to do? Who do you want to talk to in there? I don't know then. That's a real big push for them and it's a big push for everybody that's watching. If you don't know who you're talking to, then you're talking to no one. [00:30:20] Martin Boeddeker: Exactly. And it's, Ads absolutely not about the funder because I just like to prepare for this interview, I checked out the off your Facebook profile and there, I found a link to the cost that you're currently building. [00:30:33] And it just has basically, like GrooveSell set up with a way to pay you. And I think like you're doing right now, all the Perry, all the other promotion has done. One-on-one by talking to real people and then you just need to send them to. Basically some kind of way to give you money. And that's what you built in GrooveFunnels and the rest is down, like in a personal conversation, right? [00:30:56] Kathy Walls: Absolutely. 100 per se, even though it's [00:31:00] online, there's a lot of people you're not going to talk to, but there's some people that are going to want to have that conversation just as if we're talking right now, I jump on a ton of zoom calls and I talk about how. Things can work for them. I find out who they are, what their problems are and how can I help them. [00:31:18] And if I legit can't help them, I won't help them. I don't try to help them. The nice thing is with the group funnels software, it's going to help. It's going to help any business whatsoever. Not had anybody say. No, I don't want to save money, or no, I don't want to have all those leads. So the stuff that I've been working on and that you see on my profile, I've been shut down and Messenger because I'm working so much through messenger and then I have to send a link over so they can see a little bit more. I've been put on mute. Because for 24 hours, because so many conversations [00:32:00] flood from that. [00:32:01]So I'm teaching how to bring it off of Facebook, into stuff like zoom and, Calendly, get through those links through there and then soon GrooveCalendar will come out and I can use that. But. I'm teaching people how to do that. So they're not stuck onto the one platform. [00:32:19] They don't get muted. And then you're able to have those conversations because people need to know that you're going to be there. They need to know if I have a problem because I don't understand this. Are you going to be there? And you need to be there. If you don't know the answer, find it. [00:32:38] Martin Boeddeker: Exactly. And that's what I did, especially like when I was just starting out, like hitting people up on Facebook. And then as you get more experience, you can switch more to yeah. Getting one, too many kinds of combinations. Yeah. Communication, just like we're doing with this recording of the interview where I can just send one email to 2000 people who see the [00:33:00] email. [00:33:00] Still go to connection with me, but I still answer every email that I get personally. I answer every every message that I get on Facebook to some degree. And even if it's just saying yeah, check out David Lemon videos on YouTube or something, or just ask. This question in the GrooveFunnels yeah. [00:33:19] Main group, because they are somebody who really will know what to do. And as you say, if they're oftentimes like super half-full, like even recording loom videos or  yeah. Giving you the exact answer that you're looking for. But this is something that you're only come to this point when you put in the act. [00:33:35] And yeah, until you hit the roadblock and then you reach out to somebody with a concrete question, which is better than how do I make money online or do you do I use Free or pay debts, which is one of the most common questions that I get when I post my results. It's Hey, have you used stream method? [00:33:52] Or I hate methods. And so it's always yeah, I've used Free method, but if I would have paint meth use paint method, it's [00:34:00] probably not for you because you need really experienced because this field is like really competitive, risky, and expensive. Yeah, it [00:34:08] Kathy Walls: can be. And the whole thing is content create content because the stuff that you create, it stays out there. [00:34:15] Start tagging it, go on YouTube, go on Facebook on Instagram, go on Pinterest. Stuff like that. Content is what's going to get you. So if you're building this content out it's staying in there and it's getting age. And you're constantly there, you're going to start showing up in algorithms, so it's amazing how many sales I make from videos. Four months ago, they'll watch something for four months ago and, but I'm constantly dropping new stuff and I'm constantly in the group offering help, like I'll answer questions or I will be one of those that'll drop a loom video, and I answer questions on my Messenger, which is a hot mess right now because I have [00:35:00] so many in there, but Being consistent and being where your audience is the key. And whenever you mastered your messaging and who you're wanting to talk to, then you can move into the paid ads. Then cause you can go in and do your keyword research and everything, and then you can start going that way. [00:35:21]Always say, make your first sale organically. Whenever you're able to do that, then you know, your messaging is getting there. [00:35:28] Martin Boeddeker: Yeah. Exactly. And probably two seconds. So you're sure the first one was just not like pure luck, but yeah. Yeah, definitely get your first Sales organically because that's, when you really know that you understand your audience Katie, is there any particular story or case study or example you'd like to share that really sums up what we've been talking about so far? [00:35:51] Kathy Walls: Yeah. How I made $7,000 my first week promoting this and I'll I already had an audience. So I had [00:36:00] one started because I've been in this, it's making me the front runner in the brand of what I'm doing. So I had a little over a year's worth of. Network marketers and internet marketers on my Facebook page. [00:36:14] All I did was talk about the software. I was like, I am saving money with this. I am doing. This with group funnels, I'm, and then I showed what I was doing. And I just dropped that post three posts and made $4,000 in four days. That's amazing. I was like, Whoa, I need to be really, I wasn't even looking at it at the Affiliate side, but if you just start talking about the software, actually use the software. [00:36:47]Then people are going to start noticing right. Then post your wins. If many people get upset, whenever they see dollar amounts, they say that's bragging or whatever, isn't, it [00:37:00] is Brian Dean, but it's branding in a good way because you put in the time and the effort and people are starting to believe and love what you're doing. [00:37:09] They're going to follow suit. It took someone. Three months to sign up, keep that in mind, someone I knew for two years, it took them three months of seeing me consistently talk about GrooveFunnels what it does for me and my business and how it can help other people and their business before they signed up. [00:37:33] Three months of consistent talking about, I'm not saying, spam your Facebook or spam their feeds, or, any of that just literally really genuinely talk about it. And once you consistently do that, people are going to start paying attention. Then they're going to get into your private messages. [00:37:52] And they're going to be like, because think about this, they may not be commenting. They may not be like, liking or reacting to your posts, [00:38:00] but they're watching. These people never commented or anything on my posts. And then all of a sudden I get a message from them. So people are seeing, people are watching always. [00:38:14] Martin Boeddeker: Okay. Awesome. Yeah, that sounds great. And it yeah. Reflect my experience as well. Is there anything I haven't asked you about generating a full-time income that you would like to share? [00:38:27] Kathy Walls: It can be done with the job. I did it right with a job and two small kids and going to college. So I had all of that on my plate 10 years ago. [00:38:38] It can be done. So do not feel like if you work 70 hours a week and you have kids that have activities and all that stuff that it can't be done, you need to make sure you have a game plan, treat it like a real business. That's the thing treated like a real business. Okay. I want to help moms with, organize [00:39:00] their time better. [00:39:00] And I have this super big, I dunno sheet that I use and it works for me. And I want to be able to share that with everybody. If that's That's just a, whatever you can, you have your audience. See, so you already know what you want to do. You have your audience now you've got to get in there and you've got to start talking about it and then you need to be like, okay, Groove funnels. [00:39:21] I can build this. And then I can have the PDF downloads that way. If they buy it for $7 it automatically delivers it. So have your game playing, going. And it may take a little longer to get there, but if you're consistent with it, I you're, you will be able to shift out of that nine to five. And be able to put your hobby, put your passion or whatever you want into a full-time business online. [00:39:51]Martin Boeddeker: I really laugh what you said there. And I think especially if you still have a job do not rush into it let's take your example, like with the PDF, [00:40:00] share your PDF and then look for different angles, how you can share, create stories around this. And then like really try to over-deliver right. [00:40:08] Really try to build a connection with your first, like a few dozen people where you just have them try to get positive feedback. And then of course, capture the positive feedback that you get on Facebook, ask them for permission to share this. And then you put that below the lead magnet. And that's how you start to build your first. [00:40:28] Product because in the beginning, it's really not about the money because you will not get rich from a couple of people buying a PDF. It's really about the feedback that you're getting and then discovering the pain points and then turning that into some kind of business later on. [00:40:44] Kathy Walls: Yeah, just listen to your people. [00:40:46] They're going to tell you what they want. I have somebody that does pet stuff and they're like, I don't know what product I can put out there. That's not, a tangible and I'm like, okay, go into these groups that they're [00:41:00] in. These pet owners find out what their issues are and often that they were able to go in and make. [00:41:07]A little PDF on how to train their puppy. I think in a cage or something, and then that's what they gave away is the Free. And then they up sold it to some calming treats or something like that. So they got them into their mailing list by offering a free PDF on how to crate, train their puppy. [00:41:27] And then, Upsell to an actual product that they had in an e-commerce store. That's building your list so you can re target them. It's super easy. You can go to plr.me and find some really good PLR products that you can use as PDF downloads for almost any industry. So you don't even have to do that. [00:41:48] If you already know what they want and you don't want to create it, go to plr.me, and you'll be able to find something there. And that could be your Free just to get them on the list. Be creative. Don't [00:42:00] overthink it and just put it out there and just start talking to [00:42:03] Martin Boeddeker: him. Yeah I laugh your advice and  you're really it's really important that you, it does not have to be complicated. [00:42:10] It can just be like, you can even have a, like a, yeah. Use Google docs, put some sentences there because somebody, you have a problem. They do not care if it's super fancy design or something, they just want to like, Get an immediate solution to their problem. [00:42:27] Kathy Walls: That's it, that's all it is. And they honestly, whenever you say they don't care about the look of it, they really don't care about the look of it because they have a problem. [00:42:37] They need answered. They think you have the answer. So if you have the answer and it's just five sentences on a page and that solves it, you can guarantee they're going to leave you a feedback that says. Finally. Yeah. [00:42:51]Martin Boeddeker: And Lite really think about this. If you're thinking like a 100 page ebook is more valuable than a one page PDF cheat sheet would you [00:43:00] rather read the book? [00:43:00]If we go to extreme, that makes it even simpler. Would you rather read the book of 10,000 pages or would you rather have the information right now to solve your problem? Because more content is not more valuable. [00:43:14]Kathy Walls: It's the value inside of that content. So if you could say it, no one wants to read hardly anymore. [00:43:20] So whenever you are dropping that PDF, it needs to be, under 10 pages and he's big print, because people don't, they want that quick answer. Yeah. The, if you don't want to do a PDF, make it a video, you can make it a video so they can just watch the video with your answers and put the little PDF underneath, whatever you want to do. [00:43:42] Just don't over-complicate it, it doesn't have to, I always tell people when you're starting a business, you don't need a logo. You don't need all that fancy stuff. Just get started. Yeah. I didn't even have anything for my.com or anything. I just threw up my picture with [00:44:00] stuff. And it was ugly, but it got done. [00:44:03] So that way people had a place to go. The same thing here, just with group funnels, just make it easy. Talk to your people and just put it out there, start talking. And then whenever you start getting that traffic in the end, you have that extra time think, go back and make it pretty if you want. [00:44:21]Martin Boeddeker: And one thing that I would like to add before we end this interview is  people will really feel about if you care, that's something that they feel like even be happy. [00:44:31]Yeah. What it's the English saying food in between the lines or something like they, they will feel it if you care, if you really want to have them. And that's when this reciprocity takes care of everything else, because you're really just want to have them on your email list. [00:44:47] And then you just want to send them things that you really believe are valuable to them and have them to solve their problem and create a better life and getting rid of. Pain like, like doing that. And then you figure [00:45:00] out like over time what's the products that are out there to have them. It can be GrooveFunnels, but it can be something completely unrelated. [00:45:08] And even if you're not making money, as long as you're helping people like this mindset  will people will appreciate this mindset. And this is what happened to me like during the last. Yeah, and I think it's happening to you as well. If you're just out there helping people without caring, if they sign up with your affiliate link or with somebody else's link, it's everybody's just so helpful. [00:45:29] And the people who do this consistently are the people who really stand out. [00:45:34]Kathy Walls: Not only that whenever you start helping people without asking for things in return, it turns and comes back to you. Tenfold, right? Yeah. I worked for Free whenever I was pulling from my e-comm to add to it. [00:45:47] I worked for free for almost a whole year. And, I had my e-comm on the side and I was, so I had income coming in, so that would be your job. So if you're in a nine to five right now [00:46:00] that would be your job, but help people for free and get known for being the helper, because then soon you'll be able to take those people and then you'll be able to. [00:46:12] Have an offer later, right? So it don't, you're not today. You're not going to come out of the Gates, a millionaire. No, you're just not. And if you're expecting that to happen, you're going you're in the wrong line of work. It's because it takes work online. Stuff takes work because we don't have that, brick and mortar and they're in our face. [00:46:32] They're not in our face. They don't walk into our store. They walk into our online store or online group, so building that know, like trust factor takes a little longer because you're not. Physically in their face. [00:46:47]Martin Boeddeker: And online has just one major advantage because the cost is so much lower compared to a brick and mortar store. [00:46:53] I've had brick [00:46:54] Kathy Walls: and mortars. I've had two BR Nope, three brick and mortars. And yeah, the [00:47:00] online thing is so much better. Not only that I can roll out of bed and. Have my coffee and then come in here and work. I don't have to leave to go to work. I absolutely love that. But you have to treat it like you are getting up and going to work and treat this. [00:47:17] Like you, you would your job, but once you do that, and once you start helping people and once you start. Getting in that groove of not expecting anything in return, it's going to start coming back in return. Yeah. [00:47:33] Martin Boeddeker: And personally, I love this message. Like I take screenshots away and I get really positive feedback and sometimes it's just. [00:47:40] For the filling to just look at these screenshots again, because you're,  you're making a difference. This is once you get to this point, everything becomes so much easier because it's not just about the money will follow. And it's really about this abundance mindset. [00:47:55] And this is something that I know personally, Mike Filsaime same as like he's doing [00:48:00] his living this, and that's why he's so successful. And most of the people, and especially in this new until the essay Groove. Group they really breathe this period and this translates to everything. And that's why currently it's such a great place to be [00:48:15] Kathy Walls: passion before profits. [00:48:17] It's the way I see it all the time. Be passionate and help people. And then the profits will come to you. I, can you remember, I remember my first dollar online. I remember. My first feedback online, I remember all of that because you're, I'm hitting my passion. I'm doing, I'm helping others. [00:48:41] So that's a feeling you'll never forget. And if you do forget, then you need to go back and read it and see it because. That's what keeps us going is the effects that we're having across the globe. You're across overseas, right? And here I am in central [00:49:00] us. And here we are chatting because that's the, what can happen online, right? [00:49:06]You can affect people all over the world and help people all over the world. So if you do it out of passion to help them. The profits are going to come later. [00:49:18] Martin Boeddeker: They'll come awesome. Kathy and I like if people want your hub and want to connect with you, what's the best place to find out more about what you do and where to find you. [00:49:31] Okay. [00:49:31]Kathy Walls: I'm on Facebook as Kathy walls, and then I have the group nation that's. In here. And then Kathy L walls.com. I'm building out that landing page as we speak, and it just tells a little bit more about me. [00:49:46] Martin Boeddeker: Okay, awesome. Thank you so much for this fantastic interview. We covered so much ground and I think people will learn a lot from this. [00:49:54] Kathy Walls: I hope you're doing great work. Martin [00:49:57] Martin Boeddeker: thank you. [00:50:00]

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