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episode 247 – The Void, with Matt Freeman, part 2 artwork
247 – The Void, with Matt Freeman, part 2

We continue discussing Nostalgebraist’s “The Void” [https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/785766737747574784/the-void?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] in the context of how to relate to LLMs. If God imagines Claude hard enough, does Claude become real? LINKS The Void [https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/785766737747574784/the-void?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Audio reading of The Void [https://askwhocastsai.substack.com/p/the-void-by-nostalgebraist?utm_source=publication-search&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], from AskWho The referenced episode [https://www.thebayesianconspiracy.com/2023/02/182-the-birth-and-death-of-sydney-bing-ai/?utm_source=chatgpt.com&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] where the three of us spoke of Janus’s post “Simulators” Claude-Clark post – Simulacra Welfare: Meet Clark [https://gracekind.net/blog/simulacrawelfare/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], by Grace Kind Golden Gate Claude [https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Vox on Shrimp Welfare [https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/461008/shrimp-welfare-project-controversy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Kelsey Piper on UBI not helping Americans [https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/giving-people-money-helped-less-than?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Eneasz story collection “Dear Grom [https://amzn.to/40A01jW?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]” and his novel “What Lies Dreaming [https://amzn.to/2EJhOKZ?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]” Paid Bonus content for the week – The lads get sniped [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/p/247-bonus-sniped-by-dooflist?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] by DoofMovies.com [https://doofmovies.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] (patreon [https://www.patreon.com/posts/140109898?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], substack [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/p/247-bonus-sniped-by-dooflist?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]) 00:00:05 – The Void 01:32:08 – Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 01:35:41 – Miscellanea 01:41:45 – Thank the Supporter! [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/subscribe?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- Our Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], or if you prefer Our SubStack [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Hey look, we have a discord [https://discord.gg/Vwskrh7cZj?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]! What could possibly go wrong? We now partner with  [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]The Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], check them out. [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- LessWrong Sequence Posts [https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Less_Wrong/All_articles?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Discussed in this Episode: on hiatus, returning soon

01 okt 2025 - 1 h 43 min
episode 246 – The Void, with Matt Freeman, part 1 artwork
246 – The Void, with Matt Freeman, part 1

We discuss Nostalgebraist’s “The Void” [https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/785766737747574784/the-void?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] in the context of how to relate to LLMs. “When you talk to ChatGPT, who or what are you talking to?” LINKS The Void [https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/785766737747574784/the-void?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Audio reading of The Void [https://askwhocastsai.substack.com/p/the-void-by-nostalgebraist?utm_source=publication-search&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], from AskWho The referenced episode [https://www.thebayesianconspiracy.com/2023/02/182-the-birth-and-death-of-sydney-bing-ai/?utm_source=chatgpt.com&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] where the three of us spoke of Janus’s post “Simulators” The Measure of a Man [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Measure_Of_A_Man_(episode)?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] episode Darmok [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Darmok_(episode)?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] episode Kyle Fish on 80,000 Hours [https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/kyle-fish-ai-welfare-anthropic/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] podcast Contra Shrimp Welfare [https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MvjYziFxYj7oHbCJe/contra-shrimp-welfare?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] UBI Doesn’t Work [https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/giving-people-money-helped-less-than?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 00:00:05 – The Void 01:29:17 – Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 01:31:10 – Miscellanea 01:40:57 – Thank the Supporter! [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/subscribe?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- Our Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], or if you prefer Our SubStack [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Hey look, we have a discord [https://discord.gg/Vwskrh7cZj?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]! What could possibly go wrong? We now partner with  [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]The Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], check them out. [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- LessWrong Sequence Posts [https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Less_Wrong/All_articles?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Discussed in this Episode: on hiatus, returning soon

17 sep 2025 - 1 h 43 min
episode pre246 note artwork
pre246 note

Audio reading of The Void [https://askwhocastsai.substack.com/p/the-void-by-nostalgebraist?utm_source=publication-search&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], from AskWho

17 sep 2025 - 8 s
episode 245 – AI Welfare, with Rob Long and Rosie Campbell of Eleos artwork
245 – AI Welfare, with Rob Long and Rosie Campbell of Eleos

Do we need to be concerned for the welfare of AIs today? What about the near future? Eleos AI Research [https://eleosai.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] is asking exactly that. LINKS Eleos AI Research [https://eleosai.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] People for the Ethical Treatment of Reinforcement Learners [http://petrl.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Bees Can’t Suffer? [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/p/bayes-blast-45-bees-blast?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Lena [https://qntm.org/lena?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], by qntm When AI Seems Conscious [https://whenaiseemsconscious.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Experience Machines [https://experiencemachines.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], Rob’s substack The War on General Computation [http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/coming-war-general-computation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] WaPo on Blake Lemoine [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/google-ai-lamda-blake-lemoine/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Discordianism [https://discordianism.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Twitter for: Eleos [https://x.com/eleosai?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], Rob Long [https://x.com/rgblong?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], Rosie Campbell [https://x.com/RosieCampbell?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Apply for InkHaven [https://www.inkhaven.blog/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 00:00:05 – AI Welfare 01:22:33 – InkHaven [https://www.inkhaven.blog/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 01:27:49 – Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 01:31:55 – Thank the Supporter! [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/subscribe?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- Our Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], or if you prefer Our SubStack [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Hey look, we have a discord [https://discord.gg/Vwskrh7cZj?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]! What could possibly go wrong? We now partner with  [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]The Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], check them out. [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- LessWrong Sequence Posts [https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Less_Wrong/All_articles?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Discussed in this Episode: on hiatus, returning this summer

03 sep 2025 - 1 h 33 min
episode 244 – How and Why to Form a Church, with Andrew Willsen artwork
244 – How and Why to Form a Church, with Andrew Willsen

Andrew Willsen tells us how incorporating as a church allows you to navigate modernity, and gives us the basic steps to doing so. LINKS Andrew’s church substack – The Church of the Infinite Game [https://churchoftheinfinitegame.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] To incorporate in CA file ARTS-PB-501(c)(3) [https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/api/report/GetImageByNum/116008018253204183013248212220055208166233074153?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] CA Form FTB3500 booklet [https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/misc/3500-booklet.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] IRS document 1828 [https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] (see also the summary [https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-integrated-auxiliaries-and-conventions-or-associations-of-churches?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]) Nonprofit Compliance Checklist [https://calnonprofits.org/resources/nonprofit-compliance-checklist/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] The Ethical Cult Checklist [https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5e74e8349194e2f76b9ffcd1/5e754938d25345a72291f0a3_Ethical%20Cult%20Checklist.pdf?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] AI Anxiety Dinners [https://churchoftheinfinitegame.substack.com/p/ai-anxiety-dinners?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Eneasz’s follow-up post to Monogamy Police [https://deathisbad.substack.com/p/the-right-to-consent?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Paid Bonus content for the week – Andrew on the End of Capitalism [https://open.substack.com/pub/thebayesianconspiracy/p/bonus-244-andrew-on-the-end-of-capitalism?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] (patreon [https://www.patreon.com/posts/136806118?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], substack [https://open.substack.com/pub/thebayesianconspiracy/p/bonus-244-andrew-on-the-end-of-capitalism?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]) Paid Bonus content for the week – Mononormativity follow-up [https://open.substack.com/pub/thebayesianconspiracy/p/243-bonus-mononormativity-and-zoophilia?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] (patreon [https://www.patreon.com/posts/136806434?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], substack [https://open.substack.com/pub/thebayesianconspiracy/p/243-bonus-mononormativity-and-zoophilia?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]) 00:00:05 – Take Me To Church 01:09:35 – Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] 01:11:19 – Feedback & Follow-up on Monogamy Police 01:21:28 – Thank the Supporter! [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/subscribe?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- Our Patreon [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], or if you prefer Our SubStack [https://thebayesianconspiracy.substack.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Hey look, we have a discord [https://discord.gg/Vwskrh7cZj?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]! What could possibly go wrong? We now partner with  [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss]The Guild of the Rose [https://guildoftherose.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss], check them out. [https://www.patreon.com/BayesianConspiracy?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] ---------------------------------------- Rationality: From AI to Zombies, The Podcast [https://player.fm/series/rationality-from-ai-to-zombies?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] LessWrong Sequence Posts [https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Less_Wrong/All_articles?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss] Discussed in this Episode: on hiatus, returning this summer

20 aug 2025 - 1 h 23 min
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