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Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com The Glenn Show will be taking a pause in the month of June. In this brief episode, Glenn explains why. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe [https://glennloury.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com Video Links 0:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4] Intro 1:25 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=85s] The response to Glenn’s appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show 4:03 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=243s] Are institutions like the University of Austin the future of higher ed? 11:31 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=691s] Ground News ad 13:14 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=794s] When social justice musicology came for John’s syllabus 17:42 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=1062s] What role should social justice play in academic study? 28:40 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=1720s] John’s trip to the National Museum of African American History and Culture 35:50 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=2150s] Will the museum survive Trump’s assault on DEI? 44:47 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=2687s] Are Glenn and John complicit in anti-DEI overreach? 55:30 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUFgtdsJf4&t=3330s] The racial animus question in anti-DEI reform Recorded on May 21, 2025 Links and Readings Glenn’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbDXrZdvXMk] The [https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-barbarians-are-at-the-gates]Chronicle of Higher Education [https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-barbarians-are-at-the-gates]’s interview with Glenn [https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-barbarians-are-at-the-gates] Glenn’s forthcoming book, [https://www.amazon.com/Self-Censorship-Glenn-C-Loury/dp/1509567402]Self-Censorship [https://www.amazon.com/Self-Censorship-Glenn-C-Loury/dp/1509567402] Glenn’s memoir, [https://www.amazon.com/Late-Admissions-Confessions-Black-Conservative/dp/0393881342]Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative [https://www.amazon.com/Late-Admissions-Confessions-Black-Conservative/dp/0393881342] John’s conversation with actor Clifton Duncan [https://glennloury.substack.com/p/john-mcwhorter-and-clifton-duncan] The BBC’s 1973 production of George Bernard Shaw’s [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/06/when-buckley-met-baldwin/682586]Pygmalion, [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/06/when-buckley-met-baldwin/682586] starring Lynn Redgrave and James Villiers [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/06/when-buckley-met-baldwin/682586] Khalil Gibran Muhammad’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/Condemnation-Blackness-Making-America-Preface/dp/0674238141]The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America [https://www.amazon.com/Condemnation-Blackness-Making-America-Preface/dp/0674238141] Victor Herbert’s operetta, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcWovp1pF8&list=PLyHOr2lH0NV82z0Dm-P0-ch5wfiXYtHEq]Babes in Toyland [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcWovp1pF8&list=PLyHOr2lH0NV82z0Dm-P0-ch5wfiXYtHEq] John’s NYT piece on the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/17/opinion/black-history-museum-trump.html] Glenn’s conversation with Brown University student Alex Shieh [https://glennloury.substack.com/p/alex-shieh-bloat-at-brown-university] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe [https://glennloury.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com Video Links 0:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE] Intro 0:50 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=50s] Glenn takes a shot at defining “cryptocurrency” 5:28 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=328s] Yaya fills in the gaps 10:15 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=615s] Solving the double-spending problem 15:58 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=958s] The partisan divide on crypto 21:27 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=1287s] North Korea’s crypto hackers 26:29 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=1589s] How crypto protocols create value 33:23 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=2003s] The case of Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX 35:13 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=2113s] How stablecoins can open up global financial markets to nations with weak or unstable currency 36:32 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=2192s] Memecoins: Buyer beware 41:07 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=2467s] China’s use of digital currency to expand its surveillance apparatus 47:35 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyMjUq1gdE&t=2855s] Should a non-expert invest in crypto? Recorded May 15, 2025 Links and Readings Yaya and Emily Jin’s report, “China’s Digital Currency: Adding Financial Data to Digital Authoritarianism” [https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/chinas-digital-currency] Yaya podcast’s, [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designated-with-yaya-jata-fanusie/id1770788854]Designated [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designated-with-yaya-jata-fanusie/id1770788854] Yaya’s audio thriller, [https://www.jabbarilincoln.com/]The Jabbari Lincoln Files [https://www.jabbarilincoln.com/] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe [https://glennloury.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com Video Links 0:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ] Intro 1:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=60s] What is the “affirmative action myth”? 8:02 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=482s] Black progress before and after affirmative action 11:41 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=701s] Ground News ad 13:29 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=809s] How far does Jason’s critique of affirmative action extend? 17:03 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=1023s] Contesting The Shape of the River 26:37 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=1597s] Respectability, responsibility, and upward mobility 32:40 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=1960s] Is Jason blaming the victims? 35:54 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=2154s] Jason: No one’s buying the reparations argument 43:26 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu49u9FTGFQ&t=2606s] How do figures like Ibram X. Kendi and Nikole Hannah-Jones end up at the center of progressive discourse? Recorded May 7, 2025 Links and Readings Jason’s new book, [https://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Myth-Preferences-Succeed/dp/1541604555/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A6A3TKFRYMO3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.N82rXHXpZxUH3lpF_j8f8sxiTfgo3sE8myhQM0kKoHAoFEY5-ZOhDy8p-cKbe4VP3GldJlg-lwtN-vWAtg681jS1WYUSTtZf7GGbAGP6wqFHLS0E_lLalGjL7nr9sqiz6Oue53rhGte2xOtO_uWkVR5saFUTnMWJjpEZP7un6iB6LvAlGgWcKdWzkNLdBqD-ffGO1JYO1sW-s4FXAKYLdiBwjByiLXwE4KEIphkA8nA.yc843ldkxZ-cLplagTBFlrAvxzFgVbXmg5Vgy9FsMHY&dib_tag=se&keywords=jason+riley&qid=1746934249&sprefix=jason+riley%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-1]The Affirmative Action Myth: Why Blacks Don’t Need Racial Preferences to Succeed [https://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Myth-Preferences-Succeed/dp/1541604555/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A6A3TKFRYMO3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.N82rXHXpZxUH3lpF_j8f8sxiTfgo3sE8myhQM0kKoHAoFEY5-ZOhDy8p-cKbe4VP3GldJlg-lwtN-vWAtg681jS1WYUSTtZf7GGbAGP6wqFHLS0E_lLalGjL7nr9sqiz6Oue53rhGte2xOtO_uWkVR5saFUTnMWJjpEZP7un6iB6LvAlGgWcKdWzkNLdBqD-ffGO1JYO1sW-s4FXAKYLdiBwjByiLXwE4KEIphkA8nA.yc843ldkxZ-cLplagTBFlrAvxzFgVbXmg5Vgy9FsMHY&dib_tag=se&keywords=jason+riley&qid=1746934249&sprefix=jason+riley%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-1] Jason’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/Please-Stop-Helping-Us-Liberals/dp/1594038414/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A4IJKUC2I23W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.srkv-uuL6-PyO9zsV1aGNMDWJY2s7MDXiCyxK6yc8hIl4JmWSdSiwCf5fWcMUhze.gyPcjpGEevgUvaPCTV3w0xwElBg-IKeiRQWCVBPDhcw&dib_tag=se&keywords=Please+Stop+Helping+Us&qid=1747019235&sprefix=please+stop+helping+us%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1]Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed [https://www.amazon.com/Please-Stop-Helping-Us-Liberals/dp/1594038414/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A4IJKUC2I23W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.srkv-uuL6-PyO9zsV1aGNMDWJY2s7MDXiCyxK6yc8hIl4JmWSdSiwCf5fWcMUhze.gyPcjpGEevgUvaPCTV3w0xwElBg-IKeiRQWCVBPDhcw&dib_tag=se&keywords=Please+Stop+Helping+Us&qid=1747019235&sprefix=please+stop+helping+us%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1] Jason’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/False-Black-Power-Threats-Freedom/dp/1599475189/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CNXDBZF5H4PO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1XuKpSEB64zFZUi9Ao2IJk4brqykZ80Cqr1A0CiYJ8blvWMWqi980-C6s9zYrcq__3zMyswq2_T3KIhYiQtSVDw5ZFOsxklCgWDM_pVfWUeXAo-xuKYXvCqiCaQtnGDNkiOFzZUQ2XnvNoSNNxZ6QuJs9az_KYkX6SC-WOhcDVSUDbug315z6mYhpUiE2UFYjd9XxZ1oasIJubwRM_nMogV2DJA5tBWGnN10MSyhHLg.Vo3IPhRBg7C_C5oFBdXFxPrjIZVg0UGoXCLuQ4byO8E&dib_tag=se&keywords=False+Black+Power&qid=1747019264&sprefix=false+black+power%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1]False Black Power [https://www.amazon.com/False-Black-Power-Threats-Freedom/dp/1599475189/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CNXDBZF5H4PO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1XuKpSEB64zFZUi9Ao2IJk4brqykZ80Cqr1A0CiYJ8blvWMWqi980-C6s9zYrcq__3zMyswq2_T3KIhYiQtSVDw5ZFOsxklCgWDM_pVfWUeXAo-xuKYXvCqiCaQtnGDNkiOFzZUQ2XnvNoSNNxZ6QuJs9az_KYkX6SC-WOhcDVSUDbug315z6mYhpUiE2UFYjd9XxZ1oasIJubwRM_nMogV2DJA5tBWGnN10MSyhHLg.Vo3IPhRBg7C_C5oFBdXFxPrjIZVg0UGoXCLuQ4byO8E&dib_tag=se&keywords=False+Black+Power&qid=1747019264&sprefix=false+black+power%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1] Jason’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Biography-Thomas-Jason-Riley/dp/1541619684/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PFUTXZADU9ZV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5Xt6OQAPJ3thzU7qJeJhsPHCJb0AqK26Q34LGZzlMQQ.cUY_qacPn-U12udRkn4kUeBhqKrxsKpk3Md1LIxGF00&dib_tag=se&keywords=Maverick%3A+A+Biography+of+Thomas+Sowell&qid=1747019296&sprefix=maverick+a+biography+of+thomas+sowell%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1]Maverick: A Biography of Thomas Sowell [https://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Biography-Thomas-Jason-Riley/dp/1541619684/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PFUTXZADU9ZV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5Xt6OQAPJ3thzU7qJeJhsPHCJb0AqK26Q34LGZzlMQQ.cUY_qacPn-U12udRkn4kUeBhqKrxsKpk3Md1LIxGF00&dib_tag=se&keywords=Maverick%3A+A+Biography+of+Thomas+Sowell&qid=1747019296&sprefix=maverick+a+biography+of+thomas+sowell%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1] Derek Bok and William G. Bowen’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/Shape-River-Consequences-Considering-Anniversary/dp/0691182485/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TDVDP672NE9G&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8j4uxMKJfNQpvgA765NviAOPzCZC7TEl1bUvp4qD-u5zhuR3vU-I_caPRI8KxQjYF0YlhECQ1oMocVJSDiNFiAmzIATYniXx9OwraWfr9WeRovX4UOLkknGQYThtpypa2dTE0lT5InTS7FHG1ru2Iiaa6aib3ZTvgrEWe2qrEVnfSK55Gw45YubXYbKEtDMzDjI5xTNerWPo2alO2Ti08DgFbJGfLwZIlCAZU0V3CEQ.dr-ZsLZWAmkeVid_ZZO_U3kmzmYMSBJVSsGyrWo240U&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Shape+of+the+River&qid=1747019311&sprefix=maverick+a+biography+of+thomas+sowell%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-1]The Shape of the River: Long Term Consequences of Considering Race in College and University Admissions [https://www.amazon.com/Shape-River-Consequences-Considering-Anniversary/dp/0691182485/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TDVDP672NE9G&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8j4uxMKJfNQpvgA765NviAOPzCZC7TEl1bUvp4qD-u5zhuR3vU-I_caPRI8KxQjYF0YlhECQ1oMocVJSDiNFiAmzIATYniXx9OwraWfr9WeRovX4UOLkknGQYThtpypa2dTE0lT5InTS7FHG1ru2Iiaa6aib3ZTvgrEWe2qrEVnfSK55Gw45YubXYbKEtDMzDjI5xTNerWPo2alO2Ti08DgFbJGfLwZIlCAZU0V3CEQ.dr-ZsLZWAmkeVid_ZZO_U3kmzmYMSBJVSsGyrWo240U&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Shape+of+the+River&qid=1747019311&sprefix=maverick+a+biography+of+thomas+sowell%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-1] Melissa Kearney’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/Two-Parent-Privilege-Americans-Stopped-Getting/dp/022684160X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5OVIZY3WLLHA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dz5a4x6-iU2iMt7uHM2-GFO4f0nITcj6exfBYMcPdtovmmUJ4w1T8JjHlQRRUbCT.PR__Vy6rYQpjOymp53pgeX9zCkr__zeiSaBgSSMQP40&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Two-Parent+Privilege&qid=1747019396&sprefix=the+two-parent+privilege%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-1]The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind [https://www.amazon.com/Two-Parent-Privilege-Americans-Stopped-Getting/dp/022684160X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5OVIZY3WLLHA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dz5a4x6-iU2iMt7uHM2-GFO4f0nITcj6exfBYMcPdtovmmUJ4w1T8JjHlQRRUbCT.PR__Vy6rYQpjOymp53pgeX9zCkr__zeiSaBgSSMQP40&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Two-Parent+Privilege&qid=1747019396&sprefix=the+two-parent+privilege%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-1] An [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-IGtTLDrUKRlI3T_TjA3EMXLeMyW4Iwm]Amos & Andy [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-IGtTLDrUKRlI3T_TjA3EMXLeMyW4Iwm] YouTube playlist [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-IGtTLDrUKRlI3T_TjA3EMXLeMyW4Iwm] Julia [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Pc-J9ofgk]pilot episode [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Pc-J9ofgk] Ta-Nehisi Coates’s [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/]Atlantic [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/] essay, “The Case for Reparations” [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/] Ibram X. Kendi’s book, [https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509305/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UN3IRJF8TDGI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h9PqD6UpWiYNFlw2L59LzGznj7ElxOdop16H9IP31GJ2kH7vBe3Et57Hqb02R5n6mJoR1YAJPXlt1-KhvHWymXlOUCCZvuGlmCbYizNZWCQ2bqw3HHmdUh5E8W0noKI7aGSTMj7Lo_je6jsb2HylOvPjCu7EVmD7_QcEP7vG0fZholMOvQvehzpywPdsc6H0lAuMrWP9Y1_Ql6sgrKLkbCnyZ-cuPZoNi5cnOynkM0s.k_Xj6EEqflcnx12x3WjY0LbVfZmFEgg8IVXC2RlkOb4&dib_tag=se&keywords=How+to+Be+an+Antiracist&qid=1747019552&sprefix=the+two-parent+privilege%2Caps%2C212&sr=8-1]How to Be an Antiracist [https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509305/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UN3IRJF8TDGI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h9PqD6UpWiYNFlw2L59LzGznj7ElxOdop16H9IP31GJ2kH7vBe3Et57Hqb02R5n6mJoR1YAJPXlt1-KhvHWymXlOUCCZvuGlmCbYizNZWCQ2bqw3HHmdUh5E8W0noKI7aGSTMj7Lo_je6jsb2HylOvPjCu7EVmD7_QcEP7vG0fZholMOvQvehzpywPdsc6H0lAuMrWP9Y1_Ql6sgrKLkbCnyZ-cuPZoNi5cnOynkM0s.k_Xj6EEqflcnx12x3WjY0LbVfZmFEgg8IVXC2RlkOb4&dib_tag=se&keywords=How+to+Be+an+Antiracist&qid=1747019552&sprefix=the+two-parent+privilege%2Caps%2C212&sr=8-1] The NYT’s 1619 Project [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html] The Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites Project [https://woodsoncenter.org/how-we-help/1776-unites/] This is a public episode. 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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.com [https://glennloury.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_7] Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com In this installment of my monthly Q&A with John McWhorter, we tackle questions about elite universities and wealth, the value of DEI, Trump's expansion of executive power, The Great Gatsby, and ethics in higher education.
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