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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Podcast door Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

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Named Best Personal Finance Podcast by Bankrate.com and Kiplinger — and the only podcast the Plutus Awards retired from competition after winning twice — The Stacking Benjamins Show is personal finance that doesn’t put you to sleep.Hosts Joe Saul-Sehy (former 16-year financial advisor, ex-WXYZ-TV “Money Man”) and Josh “OG” Bannerman, CFP (Certified Financial Planner, Bannerman Wealth) sit around the card table in Joe’s mom’s half-finished basement in Texarkana and talk money with the smartest guests in personal finance, investing, and behavioral economics. As Fast Company wrote, the show “strikes a great balance of fun and functional.”Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday: expert guests, real headlines, listener questions, and Doug’s trivia. Topics include investing, retirement planning, budgeting, real estate, behavioral finance, taxes, and financial independence — for anyone who wants to be smarter about money without being talked down to.Subscribe to The 201 — the free newsletter that goes deeper than the show — at stackingbenjamins.com/201

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Why Uncertainty Is an Opportunity (and some Wall Street players don't want you to know that) SB1847

The five highest global uncertainty readings since the 1980s have all occurred in the last five years. And yet the answer Wall Street keeps selling -- products that promise upside without downside -- is mathematically impossible and provably underperforms over time. Simone Stolzoff, author of How to Not Know, spent years studying how people, companies, and investors navigate uncertainty well. His findings are the opposite of what the financial industry is selling you right now. What You'll Walk Away With * Why our tolerance for uncertainty is declining -- and the specific role smartphones and real-time data have played in making investors more anxious and worse at decision-making * The anchor framework: how certainty in some areas of your life makes it dramatically easier to hold uncertainty in others -- and what that means for how you build a financial plan * The Slack origin story -- how a gaming company at the peak of its success chose to shut down and pivot into the unknown, and what that teaches about staying open to what might emerge * Why Warren Buffett and the best venture capitalists actively seek uncertainty -- and how confusion between uncertainty and danger costs most investors real money * The kill criteria concept borrowed from mountain climbing -- and how pre-committing to rules before the emotion hits is the only reliable way to prevent catastrophic decisions * One-way doors versus two-way doors: the Jeff Bezos framework for knowing when to agonize over a decision and when to just act * Why buffer ETFs are mathematically required to underperform broad index funds over time -- and the one question that exposes every "downside protection" pitch instantly * OG's case for looking at your portfolio as rarely as possible -- and the surprising thing that happened when he checked his mortgage balance after months away * Why building a financial plan around your actual goals makes the daily market headlines genuinely irrelevant -- not as a coping strategy, but as a logical outcome * Kathy's story: what a special education teacher who maxed her Roth IRA every year from 1998 to 2024 has in her account today Why This Matters Now Markets will always be uncertain. Headlines will always be alarming. The question isn't how to make that stop -- it's how to build a life and a plan sturdy enough that it doesn't matter. This episode is the clearest case we've made for why your financial plan is more important than your portfolio, and why the two are not the same thing. From the Basement Simone Stolzoff joins Joe and OG to unpack the psychology of uncertainty -- including a couple who took a year apart to figure out if they wanted to stay married, a software engineer who programmed an app to make all his life decisions, and the monk who said not knowing is the most intimate thing of all. The Investment News headline about clients wanting "headline-proof portfolios" gives OG a full platform to explain why buffer ETFs are a product designed for the advisor's book of business, not your retirement. Doug arrives with Wild Bill Hickok trivia. Kathy from the community sends a note that should be required reading for every Gen X stacker who thinks they're behind. Resources Mentioned * How to Not Know: The Value of Uncertainty in a World That Demands Answers by Simone Stolzoff -- available wherever books are sold; early readers receive an invitation to an exclusive event with Michael Lewis * Simone Stolzoff -- simonestolzoff.com * Investment News -- "Advisors say more clients are seeking to headline-proof their portfolios" by Greg Greenberg; linked at stackingbenjamins.com * Stacking Benjamins Episode 1840 -- "Why 67% of Americans Fear Running Out of Money More Than Dying"; stackingbenjamins.com * Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vault * Stacking Benjamins Newsletter (The 201) -- stackingbenjamins.com/201 * Stacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

27 mei 2026 - 1 h 1 min
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How Much Should You Really Save Without Hating Your Life? SB1846

Everyone wants to know the magic savings number. Is it 10%? 15%? Half your paycheck while eating ketchup packets in the woods? In this Memorial Day basement hangout, Joe, OG, Doug, and Len Penzo cut through the personal finance nonsense and tackle the real question: How much should YOU actually save? Instead of guilt trips and impossible rules, the crew breaks down how real people build wealth while still enjoying life along the way. From automation tricks to lifestyle creep to using raises strategically, this episode is packed with practical ways to grow your savings without becoming financially miserable. Plus: * Why most savings advice completely falls apart in real life * The easiest way to increase your savings rate * How automation quietly builds wealth * Why your income matters more than coupon clipping * The surprising power of “future you” * Estate planning basics you absolutely should not ignore * Why beneficiary forms matter more than your will * Doug learns what “intestate” means… and thankfully it’s less gross than he thought Whether you’re just getting started or trying to level up your financial plan, this episode helps you stop chasing perfect numbers and start building momentum. Key Takeaways * Why there’s no “perfect” savings rate * How to increase savings without wrecking your lifestyle * The psychological mistake that keeps people from saving * Why small automated habits beat big dramatic changes * The best places to find extra money fast * How raises can supercharge wealth building * The truth about lifestyle creep * Estate planning basics everyone needs * What happens if your beneficiaries are outdated * Why trusts aren’t just for wealthy people  Resources Mentioned in This Episode Featured Tools, Guides & Resources * The Vault Budgeting App * Simplify budgeting, subscriptions, spending, and automation. * 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/vault * Benjamins After Dark (BAD) Groups * Meet other Stackers in your area for accountability, networking, and money conversations. * 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/BAD * Stacking Benjamins Basics Guide * Free guide covering financial basics, estate planning, tax planning, and more. * 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/basicsguide * Len Penzo’s Blog & Book * Len’s financial writing and his book True Money Stories. * 👉 lenpenzo.com * Retirement Calculators * The crew strongly recommends experimenting with retirement calculators to understand how compound growth changes your future savings needs. * AI Tools for Financial Organization * OG discusses using AI tools like Perplexity to: * Review leases * Analyze property tax appeals * Organize financial documents * Build research prompts Articles, Topics & Concepts Referenced * FIRE Movement (Financial Independence Retire Early) * Lifestyle Creep * Automation & Auto-Investing * 401(k) Auto-Increase Strategies * Estate Planning * Beneficiary Audits * Trusts vs. Wills * Probate Basics * Healthcare Directives * Durable Power of Attorney * Tax-Smart Retirement Withdrawals See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

25 mei 2026 - 1 h 6 min
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Where Are You Drawing the Line? How Smart Spenders Decide What to Cut and What to Keep (SB1845)

Prices are up. Budgets are tighter. And people are making some surprising choices about what stays and what goes. The woman skipping the new laptop and the graduation dress is still booked for a Disney cruise, a Bruno Mars concert, and a trip to Lake Erie. It turns out inflation doesn't just squeeze your wallet -- it forces a conversation about what you actually value. Joe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into where people are drawing the line, why experiences outlast stuff in the happiness research, and what each of them refuses to give up no matter what. What You'll Walk Away With * Why people cut the easy stuff first -- and why that strategy relieves anxiety without actually solving the budget problem * The research behind experiences vs. stuff: why the memory of a trip gets rosier over time while objects depreciate in more ways than one * Doc G's spending happiness continuum -- from stuff to experiences to becoming a better version of yourself, and why the last one costs the least * Why OG's DoorDash experiment was a two out of ten in year-to-date success -- and why four people pulling the rudder in the other direction matters * The "build from zero" budget reframe that feels more empowering than cutting from the top down * One roundtable member's rule that nothing is ever truly off the table when cash gets tight -- including the house and the private school * What each panelist will never go cheap on -- and one answer involving prescription medications that lands differently than you'd expect * The expenses that are dead to each of them -- and where Joe, OG, Paula, and Doc G land on first class flights and DoorDash * Why the client who cut all Christmas spending had the best holiday season of their life * Papa John's quarterly earnings data that tells you exactly how inflation is changing behavior at the menu level Why This Matters Now If you're in your 40s and you've started quietly trimming things -- streaming services, delivery apps, clothing budgets -- but haven't touched the bigger stuff, this episode names what's actually happening. The question isn't whether to cut. It's whether the things you're cutting are the ones that matter least. That's a values conversation, not a math conversation, and this roundtable is one of the better ones the basement has had. From the Basement Joe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into a Wall Street Journal piece on how Americans are changing their spending habits -- and the conversation quickly becomes about what money is actually for. OG reports that his attempt to eliminate DoorDash from the family budget has been going poorly. Doc G went to Bali in coach. The year-long trivia competition takes a dramatic turn as OG's precise mathematical reasoning leads everyone to the wrong answer -- and Doc G wins by going lower. Johnny Carson's guest host strategy turns out to be the missing variable nobody accounted for. Resources Mentioned * Wall Street Journal -- "Where Americans Are Drawing the Line on Price Increases" by Rachel Wolff; linked at stackingbenjamins.com * Afford Anything podcast -- Paula Pant; Joe joins most Tuesdays for listener Q&A * Earn and Invest podcast -- Doc G (Jordan Grumet); recent episode with Carrie Jorn Grimes on The Joy of Money * Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vault * Stacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

22 mei 2026 - 55 min
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How to Plan the Perfect Theme Park Trip Without Wasting Your Money or Your Day (SB1844)

Every family knows the feeling. You spend $1,000 to get everyone to the happiest place on Earth, and by 1:30 someone's crying, someone's sunburned, and somebody just paid $18 for a hotdog. Robert Niles from Theme Park Insider (the site that Robert jokes AI is pulling all its theme park data from) comes back to the basement to help you avoid that fate. This year he's also got strong opinions on which park is winning summer 2026, and it's not the one you'd expect. What You'll Walk Away With * Why the biggest theme park mistake families make has nothing to do with the park -- and everything to do with who's in the crew going with you * Which park Robert says is winning summer 2026 -- including a brand-new attraction that combines rollercoaster, dark ride, and water ride into one experience * The quick game: lightning lane passes, VIP tours, park hoppers, character breakfasts, fireworks packages, meal plans -- worth it, skip it, or depends? * Why Tokyo DisneySea is boss-level theme parking -- and the specific 10-minute window that determines whether you get on the top rides or wait four hours * The sleeper parks most families overlook -- including one with a water park included in the ticket price and another that Herschend hasn't bought yet * How to use the Theme Park Insider community to find the actual strategy for any park before you arrive -- written by real visitors, not AI * Why sit-down air-conditioned lunch in the middle of a hot park day might be the best $40 you spend all summer * The over-planning trap -- and why having a plan matters less than being willing to abandon it * What a Netflix show taught CNBC about health insurance deductibles -- and why one in four Gen Z adults still doesn't know what a deductible actually is * The HSA trap hiding inside high-deductible health plans -- and why choosing the cheaper plan can end up costing you far more Why This Matters Now Summer is when families spend real money on experiences that either become great memories or expensive regrets. A little planning separates the two more than most people think -- and the same principle applies to health insurance. Both conversations in this episode are about making sure the money you spend on your family actually delivers what you paid for. From the Basement Robert Niles from Theme Park Insider joins Joe and OG to kick off summer 2026 -- and Joe finally confesses that going to Dollywood last year changed his life. The headline segment tackles a CNBC piece inspired by the Netflix show Beef, which turns into a genuinely useful conversation about deductibles, HSAs, max-out-of-pocket numbers, and when the high-deductible plan is actually the wrong choice. Doug arrives with Formula Rossa trivia and a strongly worded editorial about what counts as a complete meal. The back porch features perhaps the best parenting post the basement has ever produced. Resources Mentioned * Theme Park Insider -- themeparkinsider.com; reviews, trip planning guides, and community discussion boards * Beef on Netflix -- referenced for the deductible explainer segment * CNBC health insurance article by Annie Nova -- linked at stackingbenjamins.com * Stacking Benjamins Newsletter (The 201) -- stackingbenjamins.com/201 * Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vault * Stacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

20 mei 2026 - 1 h 6 min
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Too Much of One Stock? How to Diversify Without Blowing Up Your Tax Bill (SB1843)

You wake up, check your portfolio, and realize one stock has quietly become your entire retirement plan. Maybe it came from an employee stock purchase plan. Maybe Grandma left you a pile of Apple shares. Maybe you bought NVIDIA in 2012 because you liked the graphics card and forgot about it. However you got here, the problem is the same: one company now owns you. Joe and OG walk through exactly how to unwind it -- slowly, tax-efficiently, and without making the emotional decisions that cost people the most money. What You'll Walk Away With * The four ways people end up with concentrated stock -- and which one has the easiest fix that most people skip entirely * Why inheriting stock is actually the best time to diversify -- and the step-up in basis rule that eliminates most of the tax bill * The conveyor belt strategy for employee stock purchase plans that keeps you collecting the discount without piling up company risk * Why "I'll just grow around it" almost never works -- and the math behind why your stock tends to outpace your ability to diversify around it * The question Joe asked every client in this situation: which outcome would upset you least -- and why that's the right starting point * RSUs as a paycheck, not a loyalty pledge -- and the mental reframe that makes it easier to sell * What the Merck/Vioxx story teaches about why the tax bill is almost never the real reason to hold concentrated stock * When a slow systematic sell makes sense versus ripping the Band-Aid -- and how to decide which one you can actually live with * The estate planning mistake that turns a free inheritance into a massive capital gains bill -- and why the $1 trick backfires every time * The insurance planning framework OG and Anna walk through: life, disability, long-term care, and property/casualty -- including the umbrella policy most people skip Why This Matters Now If you've spent years building something -- through your career, through conviction, through an inheritance -- the last thing you want is to lose it all because one company had a bad quarter. The diversification conversation feels complicated, but the framework is simpler than most people think. The hard part isn't knowing what to do. It's making the decision when the stock is moving and your emotions are loud. From the Basement Joe and OG dig into concentrated stock risk -- how people get there, what it actually costs them, and the five strategies for getting out without making it worse. OG and Anna return for episode two of their financial basics series with a full insurance planning walkthrough -- including the disability insurance gap most people don't know they have. Doug arrives with Mount St. Helens trivia and a dryer situation that may or may not involve auto parts. Stacker Molly's car repair HSA story gets a full investigation and a satisfying resolution. Resources Mentioned * Stacking Benjamins Basics Guide -- season one and season two workbooks free at stackingbenjamins.com/basicsguide * Stacking Benjamins Newsletter (The 201) -- stackingbenjamins.com/201 * Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vault * Stacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement * Yahoo Finance / CNBC insider trading tracker -- referenced for monitoring executive stock sales See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

18 mei 2026 - 1 h 5 min
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