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The Directors: Byrd and Chapman speak about avoiding catastrophism and using bridge funding to keep labs open

54 min · 24. april 2026
episode The Directors: Byrd and Chapman speak about avoiding catastrophism and using bridge funding to keep labs open cover

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In recent months, several directors of cancer centers, appearing on The Directors segment of The Cancer Letter Podcast, mentioned that their institutions are increasingly providing small grants—typically in the range of $50,000—to scientists to enable them to keep their labs open. Andrew Chapman, director of the Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center at Jefferson, said he and other officials at Jefferson designed a bridge funding mechanism that applies to oncology as well as to other therapeutic areas. John Byrd, director of UPMC Hillman Cancer Center, said bridge funding at his institution was started by Kathryn Schmitz [https://hillmanresearch.upmc.edu/researchers/kathryn-schmitz-75f2f776-3a0b-6923-6dde-5a8aa5cb], who served as the interim director before he started his job last November. Chapman and Byrd appeared together on The Directors, a monthly podcast series that focuses on the problems that keep directors of cancer centers up at night. The extent of reliance on bridge funding at NCI grantee institutions hasn’t been studied systematically, but in recent months, it has come up regularly on The Directors. As cancer centers strategize amid this time of uncertainty, many are tapping into their resources to keep their labs and federally-funded programs going—in essence becoming short-term lenders to the government and placing a bet that the money will soon begin to flow. This may be a sound strategy if the problem is limited to temporary constriction of federal funds—and assuming that Congress will continue to provide robust funding to NIH and NCI. A transcript of this episode is available: https://cancerletter.com/podcastc/20260424_1/ [https://cancerletter.com/podcastc/20260424_1/]

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episode The Cancer History Project debuts first de novo book; meanwhile, FDA snafus continue cover

The Cancer History Project debuts first de novo book; meanwhile, FDA snafus continue

In last week’s issue of The Cancer Letter, the cover story featured something special: The first de novo book published by The Cancer History Project. The book, “Backwater to Blockbuster:  St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital,” co-written by Charles J. Sherr and William E. Evans, chronicles the previously untold story of St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital and its rise to becoming a global leader in pediatric cancer research. In this week’s episode of The Cancer Letter Podcast, Paul Goldberg, editor and publisher of The Cancer Letter, talked about serving as an editor for the book. “I said, ‘Well, if you want, the Cancer History Project, which publishes books, could make this our first de novo book project,’” Paul said that he told Sherr and Evans at the time. “‘And if you want to work with an editor, I have one for you: Me.”’ “And so, in my spare time, I became an editor for this book.” The book is available at no charge on the Cancer History Project website [https://cancerhistoryproject.com/primary-source/backwater-to-blockbuster-st-jude-children-research-hospital/]. “And it's fun because it's kind of a story about the time the Giants walked the earth—giants like Chuck and Bill—by the way. And the cool thing is that there's only one way that the Cancer History Project can publish a book, which is to make it free,” Paul said. In other news, FDA has authorized fruit-flavored vaping products while easing enforcement against illicit products awaiting premarket review, a move critics argue opens the door for major tobacco companies to expand into the flavored vape market. This authorization was the final straw for former FDA Commissioner Marty Makary, who resigned as a result. In this week’s episode, Jacquelyn Cobb, associate editor of The Cancer Letter, and Sara Willa Ernst, reporter, join Paul to talk more about these stories. “It was definitely something new, but it wasn't causing too much alarm among the cancer researchers that I was talking to,” Sara said. “But then a few days later, what we thought was a story turned out to be a different story—which, this is our life in the news and working in journalism. But FDA essentially said, ‘Hey, we're taking a different approach when it comes to enforcement. So, we will be cracking down pretty much on the black market, but one subsection of the black market and not another subject section of the black market.’ Particularly, they will no longer be prioritizing enforcement for black market products that have a pending pre-market application. And so, the experts that we talked to, whether that was a legal expert or other kinds of cancer researchers, they were saying that the way that it might shake out is that the major tobacco companies such as JUUL, that pretty much aren't on the market right now, they kind of have a pathway to be able to put their own products on the shelf without FDA giving them a hassle.” Stories mentioned in this podcast include: * “Backwater to Blockbuster” chronicles the previously untold story of the explosive growth of St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. In a conversation with Deborah Doroshow, co-authors Chuck Sherr and Bill Evans discuss their collaborative writing process [https://cancerletter.com/podcastc/20260515_1/] * FDA clears fruit-flavored vapes, relaxes enforcement on black-market products with pending premarket applications [https://cancerletter.com/clinical/20260515_2/] * After a year-long reign over tumult at FDA, Makary heads for the exit [https://cancerletter.com/regulatory-news/20260515_3/] A transcript of this podcast is available: https://cancerletter.com/podcastc/20260520-vapes-and-FDA/

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