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How to Grow Your Business Through Strategic Partnerships and Referrals with Marie Mack

36 min · 6. maj 2026
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Marie Mack showed up to one online networking event, and that's where Leslie met her. One time. The universe was paying attention. In this episode of A Category of One, Leslie sits down with Marie Mack, a business strategist, partnerships expert, and operations consultant who runs two complementary businesses entirely remotely. This conversation covers a lot of ground: how Marie went from blogging in 2014 to building a partnerships methodology, why she stopped copying what worked for other people, and what it actually looks like to show up as yourself in business when the platforms and strategies everyone else is using feel flat. Marie's two businesses reflect two sides of the same instinct. Powerful Online Partnerships (POP) helps consultants, coaches, speakers, and authors grow their visibility through strategic referral partnerships, not ad spend, not cold outreach. Her consulting firm works at the operations level inside larger companies, where she functions more like a chief of staff than a COO: getting the whole orchestra to play together. What runs underneath both is a specific kind of thinking: the belief that abundance is the operating system, not scarcity. That a referral you send out comes back. That the right collaboration doesn't cost you a lead; it multiplies them. In this episode: * Why Marie tried every business model that was working for others, and why none of them fit * What strategic partnerships actually are (and what they're not) * How referrals, list swaps, and podcast swaps work as a visibility strategy * The difference between a chief of staff and a COO, and why it matters * What it takes to be ready for partnerships, and the honest signs you're not yet Connect with Marie Mack: Website: https://powerfulonlinepartnerships.com/ [https://powerfulonlinepartnerships.com/] LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marie-mack/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/marie-mack/] Connect with Leslie Silverman: IG: https://www.instagram.com/lesliesilverman/ [https://www.instagram.com/lesliesilverman/] LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-silverman-hive180/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-silverman-hive180/] FB:  https://www.facebook.com/leslie.a.silverman [https://www.facebook.com/leslie.a.silverman] Website: https://lesliesilverman.com [https://lesliesilverman.com] Hive180 Branding Agency: https://hive180.com [https://hive180.com] Chapters: 00:00 Embracing Change: The Move to Idaho 04:57 The Power of Purging: Creating Space for New Beginnings 08:02 Building a Business Ecosystem: Marie's Entrepreneurial Journey 14:00 Finding Your Flow: The Importance of Intuition in Business 19:56 Powerful Online Partnerships: Collaborating for Success 26:53 Navigating Business Relationships: Referrals and Collaborations 31:45 Conducting Business: The Role of Operations in Success

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