Ep. 30. Fatima Bhutto, The Hour of the Wolf

Ep. 32. Kai Spellmeier, Boy Friends

In today's episode I talk to Kai Spellmeier about his new novel Boy Friends [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/boy-friends-kai-spellmeier/7982020?ean=9781526693549&next=t] (Bloomsbury 2026). Kai Spellmeier is a German author currently living in England. He has published several books in Germany, including YA novels and non-fiction, and he has been blogging about books on Instagram for many years. Boy Friends is his English language debut. Book Recs: * Nina LaCour, Everything Leads to You * Cameron Sullivan, The Red Winter * Douglas Stewart, John of John  Follow the show on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/booksupclose]and subscribe to the Substack [https://booksupclose.substack.com/] for transcripts and more links. Please leave feedback here [https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ur7mk6rEMUevXdc1sJfq2-MtVOsMawJDpBA3aJ944dVUMkI4OTA3N0dBMUE2SDVJWlpaOE8zNlo4NC4u]. Get more from Kai at his Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/kaispellmeier/?hl=en-gb].  Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 31. Madeleine Dunnigan, Jean

In this episode I talk to Madeleine Dunnigan about her novel Jean [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/jean-madeleine-dunnigan/b88216b3b0a83992?ean=9781917092722&next=t] (2026) from Daunt. Madeleine Dunnigan is a writer and screenwriter from London. She was a Jill Davis Fellow on the MFA at New York University. While there she was awarded a Global Research Initiative Fellowship in Paris. Her first novel, Jean, was published by Daunt Books (UK) and W.W. Norton (US) in 2026 and will be translated into Spanish, German and Italian. Episode Notes: * Seán Hewitt, Open, Heaven (listen to my ep with him [https://zencastr.com/z/vhMtUJvj]); Philippe Besson, Lie With Me; Justin Torres, We the Animals Book Recs: * John McGahern, That They May Face the Rising Sun * Louise Kennedy, Trespasses * Madeleine Thien, Do Not Say We Have Nothing * Susanna Moore, In the Cut * Virginia Woolf, The Years * Octavia Butler's short stories and manifesto * Ocean Vuong, On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous * Yoko Ogawa, Hotel Iris Follow the show on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/booksupclose]and subscribe to the Substack [https://booksupclose.substack.com/] for transcripts and more links. Please leave feedback here [https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ur7mk6rEMUevXdc1sJfq2-MtVOsMawJDpBA3aJ944dVUMkI4OTA3N0dBMUE2SDVJWlpaOE8zNlo4NC4u]. Get more from Madeleine on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/madeleine.dunnigan/] and at her website madeleinedunnigan.com.  Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 30. Fatima Bhutto, The Hour of the Wolf

In this episode I talk to Fatima Bhutto about her book The Hour of the Wolf [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-hour-of-the-wolf-fatima-bhutto/9822d4c2aef1fdc2?ean=9781917092319&next=t](2026) from Daunt Books. Fatima Bhutto is the author of the novels The Runaways and the Women’s Prize for Fiction-longlisted The Shadow of the Crescent Moon, and the non-fiction New Kings of the World and Songs of Blood and Sword, which deals with her father’s murder and the Bhutto family’s history in Pakistani politics. Bhutto’s journalism and essays have appeared in the New Statesman, New York Times and Guardian, and elsewhere. Episode Notes: * Carmen Maria Machado, In the Dream House; Annie Ernaux, Simple Passion; Jill Ciment, Half a Life and Consent; Melissa Febos, 'In Defense of Navel Gazing'; Julie Myerson, The Lost Child. Book Recs: * Tareq Baconi, Fire in Every Direction and Hamas Contained * Helen Garner, This House of Grief * Mary Gaitskill, Veronica * Hiba Abu Nada, 'I Grant You Refuge' [https://proteanmag.com/2023/11/03/i-grant-you-refuge/] Follow the show on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/booksupclose]and subscribe to the Substack [https://booksupclose.substack.com/] for transcripts and more links. Please leave feedback here [https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ur7mk6rEMUevXdc1sJfq2-MtVOsMawJDpBA3aJ944dVUMkI4OTA3N0dBMUE2SDVJWlpaOE8zNlo4NC4u]. Follow Fatima on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/fbhutto/?hl=en] too. Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 29. Robert Douglas-Fairhurst, Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading

In this episode I talk to Robert Douglas-Fairhurst about his nonfiction book Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/look-closer-how-to-get-more-out-of-the-books-you-love-robert-douglas-fairhurst/7824593?ean=9781911717317&next=t] (2025). Robert Douglas-Fairhurst was born in 1968 and lives in Oxford, where he is a Professor of English Literature and a Fellow of Magdalen College. His most recent books are Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading (2025) and Metamorphosis: a Life in Pieces (2023). Previous books include The Turning Point: A Year that Changed Dickens and the World (2021) The Story of Alice: Lewis Carroll and the Secret History of Wonderland (2015) and Becoming Dickens: The Invention of a Novelist (2011). His other publications include Victorian Afterlives (2002), and editions of A Christmas Carol, Great Expectations, London Labour and the London Poor, The Water-Babies, and The Collected Peter Pan for Oxford World’s Classics, and A Tale of Two Cities for Norton. He is a regular reviewer and features writer for publications including the Times, Spectator, and Literary Review. He has worked as a historical consultant on BBC adaptations of Jane Eyre (2006), Emma (2009), and Great Expectations (2011), the 20-part BBC1/Red Planet series Dickensian (2015-16) and the Netflix feature films Enola Holmes (2019) and Enola Holmes 2 (2022). In 2015 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature. Follow the show on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/booksupclose] and subscribe to the Substack [https://booksupclose.substack.com/] for transcripts and more links. Please leave feedback here [https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ur7mk6rEMUevXdc1sJfq2-MtVOsMawJDpBA3aJ944dVUMkI4OTA3N0dBMUE2SDVJWlpaOE8zNlo4NC4u]. Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 28. Seth Insua, Human, Animal

In this episode I talk to Seth Insua about his novel Human, Animal [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/human-animal-seth-insua/7756277?ean=9780857308894&next=t] (2025) Seth Insua is an Anglo-Spanish writer and artist. He was born in Kent in 1989. He graduated from the University of Oxford with a First in English Language and Literature. His debut novel, Human, Animal, was published by VERVE Books in 2025 and Letras de Plata in Spanish the following year. It was selected for the BBC Radio 2 Book Club with Sara Cox, and shortlisted for both the inaugural New Adult Book Prize and the Book of the Year: Discover by the British Book Awards. He lives with his husband, David, between Newcastle upon Tyne and Madrid. Episode notes: * Susan Sontag, Against Interpretation * Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, 'Paranoid Reading and Reparative Reading...' * Roland Barthes, S/Z (the proairetic code) Book recs: * Saleem Haddad, Floodlines [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/floodlines-saleem-haddad/aea1107c861fc684?ean=9781787706132&next=t] (go back and listen to my interview with Saleem!) * Josh Silver, Fruit Fly [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/fruit-fly-savage-and-darkly-hilarious-juno-dawson-josh-silver/797f61b84ea7c825?ean=9781836431473&next=t] Follow the show on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/booksupclose] and subscribe to the Substack [https://booksupclose.substack.com/] for transcripts and more links. Find Seth at sethinsua.com or @sethinsua on Instagram. Please leave feedback here [https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=ur7mk6rEMUevXdc1sJfq2-MtVOsMawJDpBA3aJ944dVUMkI4OTA3N0dBMUE2SDVJWlpaOE8zNlo4NC4u]. Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].