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$600K Ecom Deal Acquisition + Why Most Buyers Can't Get a SBA Loan to Buy An Online Business with Jared Johnson

38 min · 8. juli 2026
episode $600K Ecom Deal Acquisition + Why Most Buyers Can't Get a SBA Loan to Buy An Online Business with Jared Johnson cover

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Finding a great business is only half the battle. The harder part? Convincing a lender that you're the person who should own it. That's where most acquisitions quietly fall apart. In this episode, Jaryd is joined by Jared W. Johnson, the top individual SBA loan producer in the United States, who's helped fund more than $800 million worth of business acquisitions. But this isn't just another conversation about lending. Jared has been on both sides of the table. He recently acquired a $600,000 eCommerce business himself. What caught his attention wasn't perfect systems or polished financials. It was the opposite. A business with outdated processes, inventory tracked entirely from memory, and obvious operational gaps that most buyers would see as red flags. He saw upside. Together, Jaryd and Jared unpack how the deal came together, why the business was relocated across states, how a 3PL simplified operations, and why keeping one long-term employee became one of the smartest decisions they made after the acquisition. They also pull back the curtain on how lenders really think. Why do buyers with strong incomes still get declined? What makes someone trustworthy in the eyes of a bank? Does your personal spending matter? And when a business has valuable assets like an email list, loyal customers, strong SEO, or a large social following, how much weight do lenders actually give them? Whether you're preparing to buy your first business or looking to finance your next acquisition, this episode gives you a clearer picture of what separates buyers who get approved from those who don't. The best deals don't always go to the highest bidder. They usually go to the buyer who's prepared. 🎧 Hit play and discover what lenders are really looking for before they ever approve a business acquisition loan.   Episode Highlights 04:14 - Inside Jared's $600K eCommerce Acquisition: Why He Bought a Business Most Buyers Would Walk Away From 12:36 - From California to Texas: How They Relocated the Business, Switched to a 3PL, and Kept Operations Running Smoothly 21:42 - The Top Reasons SBA Loans Get Declined - Even When the Business Looks Like a Great Deal 24:26 - How to Make Lenders Believe You're Ready to Buy Your First Business (Even Without Owning One Before) 27:45 - The "Leaky Bucket" Test: Why Your Personal Finances Can Make or Break an SBA Approval 31:09 - How Banks Really Value Email Lists, SEO, Social Media, and Other Intangible Business Assets 36:18 - The Simple Move That Can Turn a "Maybe" Into a Loan Approval When You're Short on Experience   Key Takeaways ➄ The best acquisitions often hide behind messy operations. What looks inefficient to most buyers can become an opportunity with the right systems and execution. ➄ Lenders don't just evaluate the business - they evaluate the buyer. Your experience, preparation, and financial discipline all influence loan approval. ➄ First-time buyers can still secure SBA financing by demonstrating industry knowledge, a clear plan, and the ability to operate the business successfully. ➄ Retaining experienced employees can be one of the smartest post-acquisition decisions. Institutional knowledge is often more valuable than documented processes. ➄ Your personal finances matter. Lenders view your spending habits, savings, and cash reserves as indicators of how you'll manage a business. ➄ Email lists, SEO, customer databases, and social media add value - but lenders focus on how they support consistent cash flow, not just their size. ➄ Buying the business is only the beginning. Long-term success comes from continuously improving operations, learning the business, and investing in the right people.   About Jared Johnson Jared W. Johnson is the biggest individual SBA producers in the United States, having closed over $800 million in SBA loans across his 15+ year career, the majority being M&A and business acquisition deals. As VP and Senior Business Development Officer at First Internet Bank, he's a two-time Coleman Publishing SBA BDO of the Year. He's also a business owner himself, having personally acquired and exited a manufacturing company. He hosts the Before You Buy or Sell a Business podcast.   Connect with Jared Johnson ➄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredwjohnson/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredwjohnson/]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence]   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. 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episode $600K Ecom Deal Acquisition + Why Most Buyers Can't Get a SBA Loan to Buy An Online Business with Jared Johnson artwork

$600K Ecom Deal Acquisition + Why Most Buyers Can't Get a SBA Loan to Buy An Online Business with Jared Johnson

Finding a great business is only half the battle. The harder part? Convincing a lender that you're the person who should own it. That's where most acquisitions quietly fall apart. In this episode, Jaryd is joined by Jared W. Johnson, the top individual SBA loan producer in the United States, who's helped fund more than $800 million worth of business acquisitions. But this isn't just another conversation about lending. Jared has been on both sides of the table. He recently acquired a $600,000 eCommerce business himself. What caught his attention wasn't perfect systems or polished financials. It was the opposite. A business with outdated processes, inventory tracked entirely from memory, and obvious operational gaps that most buyers would see as red flags. He saw upside. Together, Jaryd and Jared unpack how the deal came together, why the business was relocated across states, how a 3PL simplified operations, and why keeping one long-term employee became one of the smartest decisions they made after the acquisition. They also pull back the curtain on how lenders really think. Why do buyers with strong incomes still get declined? What makes someone trustworthy in the eyes of a bank? Does your personal spending matter? And when a business has valuable assets like an email list, loyal customers, strong SEO, or a large social following, how much weight do lenders actually give them? Whether you're preparing to buy your first business or looking to finance your next acquisition, this episode gives you a clearer picture of what separates buyers who get approved from those who don't. The best deals don't always go to the highest bidder. They usually go to the buyer who's prepared. 🎧 Hit play and discover what lenders are really looking for before they ever approve a business acquisition loan.   Episode Highlights 04:14 - Inside Jared's $600K eCommerce Acquisition: Why He Bought a Business Most Buyers Would Walk Away From 12:36 - From California to Texas: How They Relocated the Business, Switched to a 3PL, and Kept Operations Running Smoothly 21:42 - The Top Reasons SBA Loans Get Declined - Even When the Business Looks Like a Great Deal 24:26 - How to Make Lenders Believe You're Ready to Buy Your First Business (Even Without Owning One Before) 27:45 - The "Leaky Bucket" Test: Why Your Personal Finances Can Make or Break an SBA Approval 31:09 - How Banks Really Value Email Lists, SEO, Social Media, and Other Intangible Business Assets 36:18 - The Simple Move That Can Turn a "Maybe" Into a Loan Approval When You're Short on Experience   Key Takeaways ➄ The best acquisitions often hide behind messy operations. What looks inefficient to most buyers can become an opportunity with the right systems and execution. ➄ Lenders don't just evaluate the business - they evaluate the buyer. Your experience, preparation, and financial discipline all influence loan approval. ➄ First-time buyers can still secure SBA financing by demonstrating industry knowledge, a clear plan, and the ability to operate the business successfully. ➄ Retaining experienced employees can be one of the smartest post-acquisition decisions. Institutional knowledge is often more valuable than documented processes. ➄ Your personal finances matter. Lenders view your spending habits, savings, and cash reserves as indicators of how you'll manage a business. ➄ Email lists, SEO, customer databases, and social media add value - but lenders focus on how they support consistent cash flow, not just their size. ➄ Buying the business is only the beginning. Long-term success comes from continuously improving operations, learning the business, and investing in the right people.   About Jared Johnson Jared W. Johnson is the biggest individual SBA producers in the United States, having closed over $800 million in SBA loans across his 15+ year career, the majority being M&A and business acquisition deals. As VP and Senior Business Development Officer at First Internet Bank, he's a two-time Coleman Publishing SBA BDO of the Year. He's also a business owner himself, having personally acquired and exited a manufacturing company. He hosts the Before You Buy or Sell a Business podcast.   Connect with Jared Johnson ➄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredwjohnson/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredwjohnson/]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence]   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

8. juli 202638 min
episode Flippa's New CEO: Why AI Is Actually the BEST Reason to Buy an Online Business Right Now with Tony Xu artwork

Flippa's New CEO: Why AI Is Actually the BEST Reason to Buy an Online Business Right Now with Tony Xu

Everyone evaluating a business purchase today fixates on the same thing. Can this survive AI? Wrong lens. Wrong era. Wrong way to size up a deal. Tony Xu ran product and engineering at Flippa for five years before taking over as CEO. He's sat behind the scenes of thousands of transactions, tracked which categories exploded and which quietly faded, and seen firsthand what happens once AI actually touches a working business. And he'll say something most of the doom content circulating right now won't. AI isn't hunting your business down. It's clearing out the grunt work inside it. Photo editing. Listing copy. Animation that used to demand a full production team. Rough drafts of ad creative. Tasks that used to consume a founder's entire week now take minutes. Treating that as a threat misses what it really is. A head start. But here's the part almost nobody admits out loud. Nothing essential has changed. Who you reach. What people remember about your brand. Whether your customers stick around. Claude can write your listing copy. It can't earn you a decade-long relationship that gets your product onto a shelf. It's not handling your cash flow. It's not securing your credit line. It's not the reason someone buys from you twice. The businesses pulling ahead right now aren't the ones hiding from AI. They're run by people who know precisely where its usefulness ends and the real value begins. In this episode, Jaryd talks with Tony about what's really moving inside Flippa's marketplace. Why $250K to $5M has become the sweet spot for the sharpest buyers. How specialist operators are walking into neglected businesses and multiplying category growth in a matter of months. The difference between a roll-up play and a specialist play. And why chasing "AI-proof" is precisely the wrong instinct to bring into diligence. They also break down the two warning signs that should end a deal immediately. How a buyer's own comfort with AI can cut a year-long ramp-up down to half that. And why the businesses that seem the most behind the curve might actually be the cheapest assets on the whole platform. The buyers nervous about AI aren't wrong to be paying attention. They're just tracking the wrong risk. Tony isn't. 🎧 Hit play. Straight from the person who built the platform. No hype, no scare tactics, just where the real opportunity is sitting.   Episode Highlights 02:55 - Inheriting the Throne: Taking Over as Flippa CEO After Eight Years of Blake's Leadership 04:05 - The Globalization of Flippa: Why 60% of European Businesses Are Now Being Bought by Americans 05:26 - Multi-Currency, AI Translation, and 158 Payment Options: The Infrastructure Behind Flippa's Cross-Border Boom 06:59 - From Sub-$10K Domains to $250K-$5M Deals: How the Sweet Spot of Flippa Acquisitions Has Shifted Over a Decade 08:49 - Why E-Commerce Remains the Gold Standard for First-Time Buyers and How to Pick the Right Vertical 11:30 - The 450,000-Buyer Marketplace: How AI Recommendations and Watchlists Make an Overwhelming Number of Listings Feel Personal 14:55 - From the Serbian DJ's 140-Business Roll-Up to Specialist Buyers Who Bring Their Own Distribution Network 22:10 - Tony's Contrarian Take on AI: Why It's Not a Strategy, Just an Operational Tool Everyone Will Eventually Use 26:40 - The K-Shaped Productivity Curve: Why AI Makes the Best Operators Two to Three Times More Effective 29:40 - What AI Still Can't Touch: Why Distribution, Brand, and Customer Trust Remain the Real Choke Points of Value 36:43 - Tony's First-Time Buyer Checklist: Distribution, Brand Personality, and Operational Soundness Before You Sign Anything 38:25 - The Two Dealbreakers: Regulatory Red Flags and Why You Need a Real Handover Plan With the Founder 40:49 - Flippa's New AI-Powered P&L Builder and Data Room: What's Coming Next for Sellers and Buyers   Key Takeaways ➄ AI isn't a strategy. It's just the next operational tool everyone adopts within months, the same way FBA and 3PLs did. Whatever edge it gives you today gets competed away fast. ➄ The best operators are now two to three times more productive than they were a year ago. AI doesn't replace the founder, it supercharges them. That turns a twelve-month turnaround into six. ➄ Nobody's handing Claude their ad budget and walking away. Distribution, customer trust, cash on the balance sheet, the real choke points of value are still completely untouched by AI. That gap is where the money is. ➄ Specialists beat generalists every time. Flippa's fastest-growing categories are led by people with niche expertise, not just capital. Find the vertical your skills can supercharge. ➄ You don't have to love the product to love the deal. Plenty of buyers acquire businesses they have zero personal interest in because they're hooked on the operations, the numbers, and the upside. ➄ Two things kill a deal fast: regulatory landmines and no handover plan. No license compliance or no founder transition period are both deal-breakers worth walking away from. ➄ AI is a tailwind for content, a wash for e-commerce, and a coin flip for SaaS. It all comes down to execution speed. Ship faster, cut churn, win. Sit still, and AI just made your competitor's job easier too.   About Tony Xu Tony Xu is the CEO of Flippa - the world's #1 marketplace for buying and selling online businesses. With a background spanning economics, accounting, and a CPA qualification, Tony spent years as Flippa's Head of Product and Engineering, architecting the platform tools that have powered hundreds of thousands of digital business transactions. He's led the development of game-changing innovations including LaurenAI (Flippa's AI-powered deal sourcing engine), the Buyer Directory, and Flippa's AI-driven valuation tools - making institutional-grade M&A accessible to everyday entrepreneurs.   Connect with Tony Xu ➄ Flippa.com [http://flippa.com] (affiliate link, not for Eden) ➄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-x-62037498/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-x-62037498/]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

1. juli 202642 min
episode Why Most SEO Agencies Are Lying to You About AI and What to Do Before It's Too Late with Steve Wiideman artwork

Why Most SEO Agencies Are Lying to You About AI and What to Do Before It's Too Late with Steve Wiideman

Most people trying to win at SEO are asking the wrong question. How do I get my traffic back? Wrong question. Wrong game. Wrong decade. Steve Wiideman has thirty years in this industry. He's seen every update, every panic, every agency pivot. And he'll tell you something most people charging you monthly retainers will never admit. The traffic isn't coming back. AI overviews are eating clicks before you even show up. Agentic commerce means people are buying inside ChatGPT and YouTube without ever touching your website. Zero-click isn't coming. It's here. It's done. It's the new normal. And most agencies are still selling you 2019 with a new logo. But here's the thing nobody's saying out loud. The fundamentals never broke. The shortcuts did. Content farms. AI-generated blog factories. Link blasters. Agencies who promised more content meant more traffic. Google's March update didn't come out of nowhere. It was a warning that had been building for years. And it landed hard. In this episode, Jaryd sits down with Steve to talk about what's actually happening. Why the businesses winning right now stopped chasing rankings entirely. How one sentence in a Google Maps review took a brand new burger joint to number one in two days. What agentic commerce means for your revenue model. And why single-source dependency on Google is the single biggest risk any online business is carrying right now. They also get into why twenty real brand fans beat an entire link-building team. How to build content in a shrinking-click world. And the mindset shift separating businesses that are growing from the ones watching their dashboards collapse. The agencies lying to you about AI aren't villains. They just don't know what else to sell you. Steve does. 🎧 Hit play. Thirty years of SEO truth. No fluff. No spin. Just the conversation your agency should have been having with you a long time ago.   Episode Highlights 03:01 - Why Google's Latest Updates Actually Confirm That Nothing Fundamental Has Changed About Great SEO 05:53 - The Zero-Click Reality: Why Your Lost Traffic Isn't Coming Back and What to Do Instead 07:49 - EEAT, AI Content, and the March Update: What Google Is Really Saying to Content Site Owners Right Now 08:53 - The Multimodal Content Approach: How Smart Brands Are Scaling Blogs Beyond Just Written Articles 13:21 - Why Blasting Your Brand Across Every Platform Is a Trap and the Two to Three Platform Rule That Actually Works 17:50 - The Hard Truth About Traffic: Why Chasing Old Click Numbers Is the Wrong Game Entirely 24:26 - Agentic Commerce and the Future of Google: How People Will Buy Without Ever Visiting Your Website Again   Key Takeaways ➄ The traffic isn't coming back. Full stop. The businesses winning right now accepted that early and stopped wasting energy trying to recapture something that no longer exists. They moved on. You should too. ➄ SEO was never about gaming Google. It was always about people. If ten results show up in a search, the brand that earns the click, delivers something real, and gets remembered wins. That hasn't changed. It never will. ➄ Seventy percent or more of your traffic from one source isn't a business. It's a bet. And right now that bet is paying out less than it ever has. Single-source dependency on Google is the biggest hidden risk sitting inside most content businesses today. ➄ One authentic sentence in a Google Maps review took a brand new restaurant to number one in two days. That's not luck. That's semantic triples working exactly as intended. What other platforms say about you in real conversations on real pages matters more than most people realize - to Google and to every LLM pulling citations. ➄ Publishing great content and moving on is the old game. The new game is lighting a fire around every piece you create. Get it in front of real people fast. The speed of early engagement signals more than most SEOs will ever tell you. ➄ People are already buying inside ChatGPT and YouTube without ever visiting a website. Agentic commerce isn't coming. It's here. And if your business isn't set up to sell where your customers already are, you're invisible at the moment that matters most. ➄ Traffic was never the point. Revenue was. Clicks don't pay bills. Customers do. The fastest mindset shift any online business owner can make right now is stopping the obsession with the dashboard and starting to measure what actually matters - people buying, returning, and telling others.   About Steve Wiideman Steve Wiideman - known as "SEO Steve" - is the founder of Wiideman Consulting Group and co-author of SEO: Strategy & Skills, a college textbook used at universities across the US. With nearly 30 years in search, he's helped brands like Disney, Skechers, Public Storage, and Honda dominate organic traffic. A practitioner, scientist, and adjunct professor at UCSD and CSUF, Steve specialises in multi-location and e-commerce SEO and is one of the most trusted voices on navigating SEO in the era of AI search.   Connect with Steve Wiideman ➄ https://www.wiideman.com/ [https://www.wiideman.com/] ➄ https://www.stevewiideman.com/ [https://www.stevewiideman.com/] ➄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/seoexpert/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/seoexpert/]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

24. juni 202641 min
episode What Investment Bankers Know About Buying Businesses That Regular Buyers Will Never Figure Out Exists with Kyle Brown artwork

What Investment Bankers Know About Buying Businesses That Regular Buyers Will Never Figure Out Exists with Kyle Brown

Most people buying businesses are looking for the obvious. The obvious growth. The obvious profit. The obvious opportunity. That's exactly why they miss the best deals. Kyle Brown spent years in investment banking and private equity evaluating acquisitions before ever buying a business himself. And what he learned was simple: The businesses that look the safest aren't always the best investments. And the businesses that look broken aren't always broken. When Kyle came across an ecommerce business that was barely breaking even, most buyers would have walked away. Declining performance. Frustrated owners. Uncertain future. On paper, it looked risky. But Kyle wasn't looking at the same things everyone else was. In this episode, Jaryd sits down with Kyle to unpack how investment bankers evaluate opportunities, how private equity investors think about risk, and how to value a business when traditional formulas stop working. They discuss why so many buyers become obsessed with multiples, how distressed businesses can create outsized returns, and the operational changes that helped turn a struggling acquisition back into a profitable company. But perhaps the biggest lesson is this: Buying a business isn't about finding perfection. It's about seeing something everyone else has missed. Most buyers never learn how to do that. Kyle did. 🎧 Hit play to discover what investment bankers know about buying businesses that regular buyers will never figure out exists.   Episode Highlights 03:36 - How a Kid From an 800-Person Farming-Town High School Broke Into Investment Banking and Private Equity 07:03 - The $1M-$3M EBITDA Businesses His Family Office Targeted — And Why HVAC Became Their Favorite Acquisition Category 08:29 - The 25-Year-Old Who Took Over a Newly Acquired Ecommerce Business Just 30 Days After the Seller Walked Away 12:12 - How an 8-Year-Old Relationship Led to an Off-Market Acquisition Opportunity Nobody Else Saw 16:09 - The Break-Even Business Dilemma: How He Valued a 7-Figure Revenue Company When EBITDA Was Essentially Zero 20:14 - Why a Business That Once Generated $500K+ in Earnings Could Suddenly Be Worth Just 1x SDE 26:00 - The Turnaround Strategy: How Adding Customer Service, Sales Processes, and Accountability Took the Business Back to Profitability 30:14 - Why He Refuses to Build a Fund, Raise Millions, or Chase a Big Exit Despite Having the Background to Do It   Key Takeaways ➄ The best acquisition opportunities rarely look perfect. Kyle bought a business that was essentially breaking even because he focused on what it could become, not just what it looked like on closing day. ➄ Investment bankers don't just analyze numbers - they analyze risk. Revenue, profit, and multiples matter, but understanding why a business is struggling is often far more valuable than the financial statements themselves. ➄ A declining business gets discounted twice. First through lower earnings, and then through a lower valuation multiple. That's why turnarounds can create outsized returns for buyers who know how to fix the underlying problems. ➄ Relationships create opportunities that search never will. Kyle wasn't actively looking to buy a business when the deal appeared. An eight-year relationship and a consulting conversation led to an off-market acquisition most buyers would never have seen. ➄ You cannot improve a business you don't understand. Before hiring people or changing processes, Kyle answered customer calls himself, learned the products, and got into the weeds of the operation. The best operators understand the front lines before they build systems. ➄ Most struggling businesses don't need a miracle. They need execution. Answering the phone, following up with customers, building a sales process, improving accountability, and fixing neglected marketing channels can have a bigger impact than any growth hack. ➄ Buying a business can feel like buying yourself a job at first. The goal isn't to avoid work on day one. The goal is to build systems, people, and processes that eventually give you the freedom to work on the business instead of being trapped inside it. ➄ Not every acquisition needs to lead to a fund, a roll-up, or a massive exit. Sometimes the smartest strategy is to buy a good business, improve it, enjoy the cash flow, and let future opportunities emerge naturally rather than forcing the next deal.   About Kyle Brown Kyle Brown is a Michigan State graduate who spent 5+ years in investment banking and private equity in Chicago before making the leap to operator. He ran an eCommerce HVAC distribution portfolio company from 2017–2020, discovered his passion for the business, and went on to acquire and exit industrial and eCommerce distribution businesses. Today he's the CEO of 1877ForParts.com — a niche HVAC parts eCommerce distributor with over 1 million parts in stock, applying institutional deal discipline to real-world small business ownership.   Connect with Kyle Brown ➄ 1877ForParts: https://www.1877forparts.com/ [https://www.1877forparts.com/]  ➄ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msukylebrown/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/msukylebrown/]  ➄ X: https://x.com/MSUKyleBrown [https://x.com/MSUKyleBrown]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

17. juni 202637 min
episode Can AI Replace Your M&A Lawyer? The Truth About Legal Risk in the Age of AI with Eric Hsu artwork

Can AI Replace Your M&A Lawyer? The Truth About Legal Risk in the Age of AI with Eric Hsu

Most people think the biggest risk in buying a business is overpaying. It's not. It's signing an LOI you don't fully understand. Moving fast because someone on the internet told you speed wins. Then finding yourself thirty, forty thousand dollars deep into a deal that was never going to close the way you structured it. Eric Hsu has seen it happen more times than he can count. Over 160 closed deals as an M&A attorney who exclusively represents buyers. And the pattern almost always starts at the LOI - that document most first-time buyers treat like a formality. AI can hand you twenty questions to ask a seller. It can flag risk, validate numbers, model theory. It's genuinely useful. And genuinely dangerous when you don't know what you're actually looking at. Because AI can't read why a seller gets vague about their Google Ads account in a way that means something. It can't tell you that annual subscription revenue the seller just collected isn't really theirs yet - and your client inherits every obligation to fulfil it. It doesn't understand deal psychology. It can't sit across from someone who built their business over thirty years and feel where the resistance is coming from. That's pattern recognition. That's what 160 closed deals actually buys you. In this episode, Jaryd and Eric pull apart exactly where AI helps, where it quietly misleads you, and where it has no business making the call. You'll learn: * Why the LOI is the single most expensive legal mistake first-time buyers make - and what stress-testing one actually looks like before you sign * The working capital trap that kills deals mid-diligence and leaves buyers choosing between injecting $100K cash or walking away with nothing * How SBA lending rules have shifted since mid-2025 - and why brokers now favour cash buyers who show up lender-ready from day one * What AI genuinely cannot replicate: pattern recognition, human behaviour, and the deal empathy that holds negotiations together * The holdco structure Eric recommends for portfolio buyers - when to set it up, why before your first SBA close, and what it actually costs * Why integrity issues during diligence are non-negotiable walk-aways - and the dating analogy that explains exactly why The glue of the deal is the relationship. The trust. The ability to get both sides on a call and actually work something out. AI can model the numbers. It can't do that. 🎧 Hit play - the most expensive legal mistake in your deal is the one you didn't know you were making.   Episode Highlights 03:32 - The Single Biggest Legal Mistake First-Time Buyers Make That Costs Them the Most Money 07:20 - The Working Capital Trap: How Buyers End Up $100K Apart From Sellers Halfway Through a Deal 13:43 - Why the Cheapest Time to Ask Questions Is Before the LOI - And How Most Buyers Get This Completely Backwards 19:50 - What AI Cannot Replicate in an M&A Deal: Pattern Recognition, Human Behaviour and Deal Empathy 23:30 - HoldCo Structures Explained: How to Set Up Your Portfolio the Right Way Before Your First SBA Close 35:39 - The Google Ads Red Flag: How a Seller Called Declining Traffic "Stable" and What It Really Meant 41:29 - Deal Psychology: Why the Glue of Every Deal Is the Relationship, Not the Data   Key Takeaways ➄ The LOI is not a formality - it's the foundation. Everything that goes wrong mid-deal or at closing can almost always be traced back to something that wasn't properly thought through before that document was signed. ➄ Speed without preparation isn't a competitive advantage. It's how you become the buyer who gets the door slammed in their face after wasting thirty thousand dollars in sunk costs. ➄ Working capital is not a detail to sort out later. If you don't align on it at LOI, you'll be renegotiating it under pressure - and that's when deals die or buyers get burned. ➄ AI is a tool, not a practitioner. It can hand you a checklist. It cannot tell you how this deal is going to play out, why the seller is hesitating, or what that vague answer about the Google Ads account actually means. ➄ Seller integrity during diligence is the single clearest signal you'll get. If they're not being straight with you when they want the money, they won't be straighter after they have it. ➄ Set up your HoldCo before your first SBA close if you plan to buy more than one business. Restructuring ownership after the fact means going back to the bank for permission. Getting it right once upfront costs less than fixing it later. ➄ The relationship is the deal. You cannot negotiate working capital, resolve diligence issues, or survive a hard conversation with data alone. Trust is built human to human - and no amount of AI can replace what happens when both sides get on a phone call and actually work it out together.   About Eric Hsu Eric Hsu is a business acquisition attorney and the founder of Clear Focus Law and SMB Law Group, specializing in M&A for small and medium-sized businesses. Recognized as a Rising Star in Mergers & Acquisitions by Super Lawyers, Eric works exclusively on the buyer's side, helping self-funded entrepreneurs negotiate, structure, and close deals - including SBA-financed acquisitions. With clients across the US, he's known for transparent pricing, deep SBA expertise, and helping corporate professionals achieve freedom through acquisition.   Connect with Eric Hsu ➄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawyer4smbs/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawyer4smbs/]   ➄ https://lawyer4smbs.com/ [https://lawyer4smbs.com/]   ➄ https://buyersblackbook.com/ [https://buyersblackbook.com/]    Resource Links ➄ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause] ➄ FREE Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/ [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/]➄ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com [https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/] ➄ Online Business Due Diligence Services - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/duediligence   Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use) đŸ”„ ➄ Empire Flippers - https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE [https://bit.ly/3RtyMkE] ➄ Flippa - https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5 [https://bit.ly/3wGa8r5] ➄ Motion Invest - https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO [https://bit.ly/3YmJAmO]➄ Investors Club - https://bit.ly/3ZpgioRhttps://bit.ly/3ZpgioR [https://bit.ly/3ZpgioR]   *This post may contain affiliate links, so we may earn a small commission when you make a purchase through links on our site/posts at no additional cost to you. 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10. juni 202642 min