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You Can't Run a Business on One Banana: AI Monoculture and Model Collapse | 013

18 min · 30. juni 2026
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When AI starts learning mostly from itself, where does anything genuinely new come from? Anthropic reported that more than 80 percent of Claude's code is now written by Claude, and a premier model vanished from the team's plans overnight. Lee Ann and Gretchen use the humble banana to explain AI monoculture and model collapse: almost every banana we eat is a Cavendish, a near genetic clone that one disease could wipe out. They get into the reflex to overtrust machines and undertrust humans, how quality quietly erodes from good to "it'll do", and what the AI itself said when asked how it avoids becoming a clone of a clone. The throughline: diversity is insurance you have to design in, across models, money, and the counsel you trust. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Two things that knocked us offside 02:29 Why Gretchen's mind went to bananas 02:43 The Cavendish problem: one banana, one disease 05:31 You can't run a business on one banana 06:44 Blind spots and the autocorrect bias 08:21 Overtrust the machine, undertrust the human 09:22 Running out of naive data: getting high on your own supply 10:12 Where the AI constitution fits in 11:56 Asking the AI to confront itself 14:00 Variance has to come from outside the loop 15:47 Diversity is insurance, never a guarantee ABOUT THE HOSTS: Lee Ann Del Carpio is CEO and Founder of Deeply Human and Founder of the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Co-Founder and Chief Strategy and Impact Officer of CDHL and author of Your Second Prime. WEBSITE: deeplyhumanleading.com [http://deeplyhumanleading.com] NEWSLETTER (The Deep Signal): https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738 [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738]

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episode You Can't Run a Business on One Banana: AI Monoculture and Model Collapse | 013 artwork

You Can't Run a Business on One Banana: AI Monoculture and Model Collapse | 013

When AI starts learning mostly from itself, where does anything genuinely new come from? Anthropic reported that more than 80 percent of Claude's code is now written by Claude, and a premier model vanished from the team's plans overnight. Lee Ann and Gretchen use the humble banana to explain AI monoculture and model collapse: almost every banana we eat is a Cavendish, a near genetic clone that one disease could wipe out. They get into the reflex to overtrust machines and undertrust humans, how quality quietly erodes from good to "it'll do", and what the AI itself said when asked how it avoids becoming a clone of a clone. The throughline: diversity is insurance you have to design in, across models, money, and the counsel you trust. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Two things that knocked us offside 02:29 Why Gretchen's mind went to bananas 02:43 The Cavendish problem: one banana, one disease 05:31 You can't run a business on one banana 06:44 Blind spots and the autocorrect bias 08:21 Overtrust the machine, undertrust the human 09:22 Running out of naive data: getting high on your own supply 10:12 Where the AI constitution fits in 11:56 Asking the AI to confront itself 14:00 Variance has to come from outside the loop 15:47 Diversity is insurance, never a guarantee ABOUT THE HOSTS: Lee Ann Del Carpio is CEO and Founder of Deeply Human and Founder of the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Co-Founder and Chief Strategy and Impact Officer of CDHL and author of Your Second Prime. WEBSITE: deeplyhumanleading.com [http://deeplyhumanleading.com] NEWSLETTER (The Deep Signal): https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738 [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738]

30. juni 202618 min
episode What Too Much AI Is Quietly Doing to Leaders | 012 artwork

What Too Much AI Is Quietly Doing to Leaders | 012

Everyone is racing to use AI faster. Almost no one is asking what the speed is doing to the people doing the thinking. Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard name the cognitive exhaustion that builds when leaders absorb too much, decide too often, and leave no margin for the thinking the moment requires. Not burnout.. Brain fry. Inside: the neuroscience of depletion, the move from generic to strategic to conscious use of AI, and why the future of leadership is more human, not less. CHAPTERS: 00:00 What too much AI is doing to us 02:15 Brain fry vs. burnout: the distinction 05:30 How AI-era decisions accelerate it 09:00 The neuroscience: PFC and amygdala 13:45 The recovery paradox 18:00 What it looks like in the room 21:30 Recovery as strategy, not self-care 24:00 The one move that actually helps * RELATED READING: Gretchen's article "The Seduction of Ease" [https://lifesciencedaily.news/hcp-burnout-leadership-life-sciences/](Life Science Daily) * NEWSLETTER: The Deep Signal [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738] * WEBSITE: Deeply Human Leading [www.deeplyhumanleading.com] #DeeplyHumanLeading #AILeadership #Leadership #FutureOfWork

23. juni 202628 min
episode What Does Your Body Know That AI Doesn't? | Deeply Human Leading Ep. 011 with Shannon Gomez artwork

What Does Your Body Know That AI Doesn't? | Deeply Human Leading Ep. 011 with Shannon Gomez

We ask AI before we ask ourselves, and somewhere in all that speed, we stop hearing what our own bodies are trying to tell us. In this episode of Deeply Human Leading, Lee Ann Del Carpio talks with Shannon Gomez, a licensed acupuncturist and Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner with more than two decades of experience, about what it means to stay human and embodied in an age where answers are always available. This is not a debate about whether AI is good or bad. It is about the one thing a machine cannot do for us: integrate what we are actually living. They explore the rise of "Dr. AI" and self-diagnosis, the difference between information and integration, the illusion of understanding that sets in when a fluent answer poses as wisdom, intuition as a built-in human capacity, and simple practices for returning to the body's own knowing. Guest: Shannon Gomez is a licensed acupuncturist, herbalist, and creator of the Rebel Deck, based in Phoenix, Arizona. Find her at goshannongo.com [http://goshannongo.com] and rebeldeck.com [http://rebeldeck.com]. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and introducing Shannon Gomez 03:30 Personal sovereignty and what acupuncture restores 05:24 Taking your power back 08:22 "Dr. ChatGPT": arriving with the diagnosis already done 10:40 Listening to the body's wisdom 13:19 Embracing both: Western, Eastern, and AI 13:54 Information vs. integration 16:25 What the body does best: integration 18:53 What's shifting in our collective nervous system 20:24 Drowning in competent answers, short on discernment 22:08 Epistemia: the illusion of understanding 24:15 Knowing how to ask, and correcting AI 25:49 Intuition as our superpower 28:13 Anchoring in your own knowing 29:54 Self-trust and tuning into the body 30:56 Where to find Shannon, and a Rebel Deck card pull 33:27 Closing: stay curious, stay human More at deeplyhumanleading.com [http://deeplyhumanleading.com]. Subscribe to The Deep Signal Newsletter [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738] Mentioned in this episode • Epistemia, the illusion of understanding — Emory University's Goizueta Business School (December 2025) • "AI can deliver information and insight, but it cannot deliver integration" — Erin Cutrone, Academy of Therapy Wisdom

17. juni 202634 min
episode "It's a Practice Run": What AI's Speed Is Doing to Leaders | 010 artwork

"It's a Practice Run": What AI's Speed Is Doing to Leaders | 010

The technology is accelerating faster than our leadership institutions know how to steward it. That is the signal underneath a week of AI headlines, and it is the question Lee Ann and Gretchen sit with here. Three stories crossed the feed that looked unrelated: a Pope calling for guardrails, a wave of layoffs framed as inevitable, and the head of Google DeepMind describing today's AI agents as a "practice run" for what comes next. What connects them is speed, arriving without the consent, governance, or preparation that a moment like this asks for. Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore what stewardship looks like when you don't control the global picture, why human-made work is about to become more valuable rather than less, the real cost of cutting a creative team for speed, and where agency begins. Their answer is smaller and more hopeful than the headlines suggest: it starts in your own home, your own team, the part of the system you influence. If this really is the practice run, the question worth holding is what kind of leaders we are practicing to become. Hosted by Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard. New episodes weekly. Newsletter: https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738 [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738] Web: https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com [https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com]

3. juni 202627 min
episode Learned Helplessness in the Age of AI: Why Leaders Are Disengaging (And How to Stop) | 009 artwork

Learned Helplessness in the Age of AI: Why Leaders Are Disengaging (And How to Stop) | 009

If technology is moving at a breathless pace and most organizations aren’t changing how they work, what does that mean for the humans inside them? In this episode, Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore what it takes to see clearly when the ground is shifting beneath every leader, every team, and every family trying to make sense of AI’s acceleration. Drawing on Ethan Mollick’s updated “The Shape of the Thing” article (March 2026), they examine why our first instinct in uncertainty, reaching for the spreadsheet and the stopgap measure, may be the very thing keeping us stuck. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Introduction 1:13 Seeing Headlines Without Locking In 2:28 The Shape of the Thing — Revisited 4:53 From Using AI to Directing It 6:11 Why Organizations Aren't Keeping Pace 7:13 Layers of Human Resistance 8:46 Changing Your Relationship With Uncertainty 10:41 Learned Helplessness at Scale 13:09 What AI Is Actually Unlocking 15:05 What Leaders Need to Become 17:47 Hold Uncertainty AND Be Unambiguous 19:20 Nervous System Regulation as Leadership 22:03 Practical First Steps to Ground Yourself 24:14 The Window to Shape AI Is Closing 26:10 Practicing Discernment — Start Somewhere 27:28 Privacy, Learning Partners & the Flywheel 29:12 Closing Reflection ABOUT YOUR HOSTS: Lee Ann Del Carpio is the CEO and Founder of Deeply Human, Inc. and co-founder of the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. With 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations, she helps leaders reawaken what only humans can bring: relational wisdom, discernment, and the ability to shape systems that serve life. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy & Impact Officer and co-founder of the Center for Deeply Human Leadership (CDHL). She has built 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers, generated $35M+ in strategic value, and co-authored a policy brief on AI and health equity with The Economist Impact Group. Author of Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck or Do We Suck at Aging? LINKS: 📬 Subscribe to The Deep Signal newsletter: https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738 [https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738] 🌐 Website: https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com [https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com] 🎵 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading [https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading] 🎙 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv [https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv]

19. maj 202631 min