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From Party Chair to Party Critic: Why he’s still a Republican

46 min · 30. apr. 2026
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On this episode of "Deseret Voices [https://pages.deseret.com/podcasts/deseret-voices]," host McKay Coppins [https://www.deseret.com/authors/mckay-coppins/] explores the political evolution of MS NOW's Michael Steele [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-michael-steele-podcast/id1412905534], former chairman of the Republican National Committee [https://www.rnc.org/] (RNC). Steele traces his journey from a "Lincoln Republican" raised by Roosevelt Democrats to becoming one of the most prominent critics of the modern GOP.  Michael Steele offers [https://michaelsteelenetwork.com/about/] a candid look at his upbringing in segregated Washington, D.C., and explains how Ronald Reagan’s 1976 convention speech — a message of grace and self-reliance — originally anchored his faith in the party. The conversation delves into the "fictional" iconography of 1950s America often used in modern political messaging and provides an insider's view of how the Tea Party movement transformed from a fiscal uprising into a populist precursor to the current era.  Steele argues that while many of his peers have abandoned long-held principles for political convenience, he remains in the party to fight for its original moorings of civil liberty and constitutional self-governance. It is a compelling discussion on character, the "monetization of anger," and what it means to be a Republican when you no longer recognize the party’s leadership.  “Deseret Voices [https://pages.deseret.com/podcasts/deseret-voices]” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins [https://www.deseret.com/authors/mckay-coppins/] and Jane Clayson Johnson [https://www.deseret.com/authors/jane-clayson-johnson/], who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News [https://www.deseret.com/] podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews [https://www.youtube.com/@DeseretNews]), Instagram (@deseretnews [https://www.instagram.com/deseretnews/]), Facebook (@deseretnews [https://www.facebook.com/deseretnews]) and X (@deseret [https://x.com/Deseret]).

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