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The Joy of Having Nothing to Attain by Rev. Kattō Laura Phillips

38 min · 21. juni 2026
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Date: 2026/06/21. Speaker: Rev. Kattō Laura Phillips. At Clouds in Water Zen Center. Kattō started practicing Zen at Clouds in Water in 1997. When she moved to Stillwater, MN to focus on family life she joined a meditation community there called Zen Bridge. She later returned to Clouds for study, practice, and training on the path to becoming a priest and in 2022 received ordination from Sosan Flynn. In 2026 she received Dharma Transmission from Sosan. After having been a member of Zen Bridge for over 15 years she is now its guiding teacher. Kattō is a retired psychotherapist and draws on her 20 years of trauma-related work as she explores ways for people to build nurturing, respectful ways of connecting with vulnerability, authenticity, and curiosity.

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The Joy of Having Nothing to Attain by Rev. Kattō Laura Phillips

Date: 2026/06/21. Speaker: Rev. Kattō Laura Phillips. At Clouds in Water Zen Center. Kattō started practicing Zen at Clouds in Water in 1997. When she moved to Stillwater, MN to focus on family life she joined a meditation community there called Zen Bridge. She later returned to Clouds for study, practice, and training on the path to becoming a priest and in 2022 received ordination from Sosan Flynn. In 2026 she received Dharma Transmission from Sosan. After having been a member of Zen Bridge for over 15 years she is now its guiding teacher. Kattō is a retired psychotherapist and draws on her 20 years of trauma-related work as she explores ways for people to build nurturing, respectful ways of connecting with vulnerability, authenticity, and curiosity.

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