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How to Export Wine to the US | The Three-Tier System Explained | Why Quality Is Not Enough | Paola Pavan

50 min · 23. juni 2026
episode How to Export Wine to the US | The Three-Tier System Explained | Why Quality Is Not Enough | Paola Pavan cover

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This podcast is sponsored by Dolia, the growth platform for beverage brands. Find out more here [https://getdolia.com]. Paola Pavan spent years running multi-million-dollar promotional campaigns for the Italian Trade Agency before going independent to help individual brands solve the part the institutions never could: actually selling in the US market. Today she runs OPC International, guiding European wine and spirits brands through the country's notoriously fragmented three-tier distribution system. In this episode, we cover how that system really works, why most brands compete inside their own distributor's portfolio before they ever compete in the open market, what it takes to create demand for a new product in a category with limited shelf space, and why some of the best-selling "Italian" wines in America are owned and run by American companies. Essential listening for anyone working on US market entry for a beverage brand. AGENDA: 03:33 US alcohol consumption trends vs Europe 04:24 Market size and the three-tier distribution system 06:23 Inside a distributor's portfolio: the Mionetto example 08:19 Strategy and execution: why quality alone isn't enough 09:01 Italy vs France vs the US: the competitive landscape 11:38 The "Italian" wines actually owned by American companies 12:15 Should a small producer even try? Access to capital in the US 14:55 The minimum viable presence playbook 16:13 Why brands still need to manage key accounts directly 18:25 Budget reality: Italian revenue vs US marketing spend 21:00 Creating demand without a distributor's help 24:39 Alternative entry paths and lucky breaks 27:26 The role and limits of consortia and trade agencies 31:20 Can social media build demand before distribution? 35:12 The export process, start to finish 39:25 Timeline and cost to enter the US market 40:11 Ready-to-drink: an underused opportunity for wineries 41:39 Why market entry strategy differs by country 42:44 Quickfire round

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