Elfie Voices: Rethinking Health

Dropout: Rethinking Pharma's Next Growth Lever with Mohamed El-Zayat

23 min · 6. maj 2026
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What if the biggest threat to your blockbuster isn't a competing molecule — but the patient who quietly stops refilling after month two? In this episode, Grace McNamara sits down with Mohamed El-Zayat, Elfie's new Country Manager for Egypt and the Middle East and a 22-year pharma veteran (Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Merck) across marketing, global brand leadership, and patient access. Mohamed breaks down the three hidden competitors every chronic-disease brand faces — therapy dropout, the shrinking HCP-patient consult, and the post-prescription data blackout — and explains why a connected patient ecosystem, not another standalone app, is the strategic unlock. Inside the conversation: * Why adherence, not rival brands, is the real battleground in chronic care * How Elfie Care is positioned to be "the most significant launch in healthcare in the next 10 years" * Why longitudinal, patient-reported + wearable + lab data is pharma's next real-world evidence goldmine * The economics of replacing 65 fragmented PSP apps with one ecosystem spanning pharma, payers, ministries, HCPs, and pharmacies * What insurers, ministries of health, and brand teams should be asking now A sharp, strategic listen for pharma executives, patient access leaders, RWE teams, and payer innovators. Follow us: LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Elfie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/elfieco] Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Elfie.en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/elfie.en/] Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Elfie Global [https://www.facebook.com/elfie.global]

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