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Building a Skills-First Economy: Dr. Ahmed Alzahrani and Anton Stepanenko on Designing a Future-Ready Workforce

52 min · 17. feb. 2026
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The Middle East is undergoing one of the most ambitious workforce transformations in the world. As economies diversify, technology accelerates change, and new industries emerge, the question is no longer if jobs will evolve, but how people can be prepared to thrive in what comes next. In this episode of Flavors of Ambition, we speak with Dr. Ahmed Alzahrani, Deputy Minister for Skills and Training at Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Human Resources and Social Development, about what it takes to build a future-ready workforce across the region. Drawing on his background in behavioral economics, Dr. Ahmed brings a refreshingly human lens to the conversation, challenging long-held assumptions about education, careers, and what truly prepares people for the future of work. He shares why the old rules no longer apply and what needs to change next. Joined by BCG Partner and Director, Education, Employment and Welfare, Anton Stepanenko, the conversation explores how AI, personalization, and lifelong learning are reshaping the labor market. Together, they unpack what it means to move from qualification-based hiring to skills-based systems, and why adaptability has become the most valuable skill of all. We also dive into Saudi Arabia’s role as a sandbox for bold talent reforms and what that means for the region and beyond. If you want to understand how the Middle East is reimagining human capital, building systems that match talent to opportunity, and preparing people for the future of work, this episode is for you. Links: Dr. Ahmed Alzahrani on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalzahrani/?originalSubdomain=sa] Anton Stepanenko on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/anton-stepanenko-b8b8a33/] BCG Middle East [https://www.bcg.com/middle-east] Email Flavors of Ambition: flavorsofambition@bcg.com

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