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Why Soap Might Be the Problem: Eli Halliwell on Rethinking Clean

31 min · 23. juni 2026
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Imagine if "squeaky clean" was actually a sign your skin is in distress, not a sign of health. In this episode of Imagine If, host Janet Kraus sits down with Eli Halliwell, co-founder of Hairstory and founder of Sans Savon, to question one of the most basic assumptions in personal care: that soap is good for us. Eli explains how the same detergents used to clean dishes and laundry ended up in shampoo and body wash, stripping away the skin's natural oils and microbiome and triggering a cycle of dryness, irritation, and overuse of moisturizers and styling products to compensate. He breaks down the simple chemistry of amphiphilic molecules (the "oil-loving, water-loving" compounds behind every cleanser) and explains why foam is usually a red flag for over-stripping, not effective cleaning. It's a fascinating look at how questioning a 100-year-old assumption about hygiene can lead to a more sustainable, less wasteful approach to everyday self-care. In this episode: Why modern soap and shampoo may be over-cleaning your skin and hair The science of amphiphilic molecules and why foam isn't a sign of effective cleaning What the skin microbiome is and why stripping it causes irritation, dandruff, and eczema flare-ups How Sans Savon developed soap-free, non-foaming cleansers using micellar technology The role of upcycled ingredients (avocados, grapeseed oil, Christmas tree clippings) in sustainable formulation Why Sans Savon became a Public Benefit Corporation and partners with 1% for the Planet Eli's personal sustainability habits, from composting in Canada to letting go of fitness tracking Be part of the Bluedot Living community At Bluedot Living, we imagine if people were actually making progress on climate change—because they actually are. Each episode of Bluedot Living Podcast shares stories of people, policies, and projects that prove your choices matter, from micro decisions at home to macro shifts in law and industry. If you want to explore our recipes, products for your home and lifestyle, and read interesting stories, you can find us BluedotLiving.com For daily inspiration you can follow us @Bluedotliving on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bluedotliving/

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