Leo Pareja Unfiltered
➡️ Access ALL FREE business resources, episode blueprints, and exclusive content from past episodes: https://stan.store/leopareja Phil Jones was making more money than his school teachers at 15 running a car washing operation staffed by kids a year younger than him. He went on to build a $240 million real estate investment business with only five salespeople, converting at 95 to 100% through a referral network where he never had to cold call anyone. Leo sits down with the author of Exactly What to Say, one of the most listened-to nonfiction audiobooks of all time, to unpack why "always be closing" is backwards, how two words can direct someone's decision without them feeling told what to do, and why most agents are destroying their future business with every follow-up call they make. Phil also breaks down why your experience might be your most expensive liability, the framework that replaces beating yourself up with compounding improvement, and why the next decade belongs to people who master when and how they communicate, not just what they say. ➡️ Timestamps 00:00 Washing Cars at 14 and Out-Earning Teachers by 15 02:02 The Lesson That Shaped Everything Was Just Learning How to Ask 03:00 Leo Was Outselling Everyone at Outback Steakhouse Before He Knew Why 03:56 Why Always Be Closing Is Backwards and Curiosity Wins More Business 05:29 People Say the Wrong Thing Even When They Know Better and Here's Why 06:46 Commission Breath and the Only Safe Way to Enter Any Negotiation 07:41 Confidence Without Experience Isn't Confidence It's Arrogance 08:36 Every Human Being on the Planet Is a Lead If You Extend the Timeline 09:20 Most Follow-Up Calls Don't Add Value They Destroy the Relationship 10:34 Phil Demonstrates a Magic Word Live and Shows How Two Words Direct Decisions 13:07 Managing People Older Than You Taught Him You Never Get Respect From a Title 14:37 How He Built a $240 Million Business With Five Salespeople and 95% Conversion 16:26 The Number One Mistake He Sees Across 800 Industries and It's Not What You Think 17:35 The Line Between Persuasion and Manipulation and How to Know Which Side You're On 19:31 Words Are Not Descriptive They're Generative and Most People Are Brutal to Themselves 22:55 The LBs and NTs Framework That Replaces Right vs Wrong With Compounding Growth 24:46 His 72-Minute Audiobook Averages Seven Listens Per User and the Industry Average Is 0.25 26:25 The Conversations He Lost That Taught Him More Than the Ones He Won 28:20 Buyers Show Up Further in the Decision Now and Information Isn't the Edge Anymore 31:19 AI Is Making Average People Look Average Faster and Human Experience Is About to Be Premium 34:49 Moment Modality Message and Why Agents Are Making Calls Nobody Wants to Answer 38:22 Turn Off Your Smart Plans Because Most of Them Are Dumb ➡️ Connect With Phil M. Jones Instagram: https://instagram.com/philmjonesuk LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/philmjones YouTube: https://youtube.com/@philmjones Website: https://philmjones.com
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