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Discover how to support at-risk employees through early intervention and better leadership conversations. This episode tackles one of the most difficult leadership realities: how to respond when someone in your team is struggling with their mental health or at risk. Steve Phillip shares practical ways leaders can act earlier, handle difficult conversations, and avoid unintended harm. The conversation challenges the gap between policy and culture, showing why checklists and training alone are not enough. You will hear a clear, usable framework for opening conversations, how to balance performance with care, and what leaders often miss when it matters most. CHAPTERS 00:00:00: Why early intervention matters 00:02:40: The leadership gap in mental health support 00:08:10: Where organisations get it wrong 00:11:00: Culture vs policy in real situations00:15:00: Handling difficult conversations safely 00:18:30: The TED framework in practice 00:21:00: Why men present later 00:23:00: Monthly check-ins that actually work 00:24:30: Connection in hybrid teams 00:27:00: A message of hope for leaders RESOURCES MENTIONED * The Jordan Legacy: Suicide prevention resources and training * Samaritans (116 123): 24/7 support line * Mind UK: Mental health guidance and support KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR LEADERS * Intervene earlier: do not wait for visible crisis signals * Use simple open questions to create real dialogue * Treat every policy through a ‘do no harm’ lens * Balance performance conversations with active support * Build regular, informal check-ins beyond appraisals KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR COACHES * Use the TED framework to model difficult conversations * Help leaders rehearse high-risk scenarios safely * Challenge ‘tick-box wellbeing’ thinking in organisations * Encourage monthly check-in structures in teams GUEST BIOGRAPHY Steve Phillip is the founder of The Jordan Legacy, a community interest company focused on practical suicide prevention. Following the loss of his son in 2019, he now works with organisations to improve early intervention, leadership capability, and mental health awareness. Thank you for watching/ listening. #ad Editing my podcast used to be the most time-consuming part of my week. I now use Descript to edit my audio and video by simply deleting words from a transcript. It allows me to create my YouTube Shorts and TikTok clips in a fraction of the time. If you want to try it for your own projects, you can sign up here: https://get.descript.com/LevelUp Using this link costs you nothing extra, but the small commission I receive helps support the work I do on my podcast and articles. Paid plans start at around £12 / $16 per month (billed annually) for the Hobbyist tier. Music, jingles, and images - attribution. Podcast Background Track: https://pixabay.com/users/poorartistt-45918667/ [https://pixabay.com/users/poorartistt-45918667/] Guitar Jingle: https://pixabay.com/music/introoutro-guitar-intro-ident-151972/ [https://pixabay.com/music/introoutro-guitar-intro-ident-151972/] Images: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/ [https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/] & https://www.perplexity.ai/ [https://www.perplexity.ai/] Disclaimer. LevelUp and the podcast host do not endorse, verify, or take responsibility for any products, services, views, or claims presented by guests during podcast episodes. Any opinions or statements made by podcast guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of LevelUp or its representatives. © 2026 LevelUp. This episode is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International. To view a copy of this license, visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/
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