Life Biz and All That Jazz
What if your life didn't have to be written in permanent marker What if everything you thought you had to have figured out, the five year plan, the career ladder, the perfectly mapped out future could actually just be written in pencil? That's exactly where this conversation starts. And honestly? It doesn't stop there. This week I'm sitting down with Billy, author of Fumbling Forward, a book that is part memoir, part life manual, and completely real. Billy takes us through his journey from freelancing straight out of college, to navigating his first full time corporate role, to building a business, losing a business partner to embezzlement, and somewhere in the middle of all of it. Figuring out that life is a lot more like Mad Libs than any of us were ever taught. You fill in the blanks as you go. And that's not a failure. That's just life. This episode goes deep. We talk about what happens when your career becomes your entire identity — and the quiet, unsettling moment when it no longer fits. We talk about OCD and anxiety, being diagnosed as adults, and why both of us spent years pushing through life thinking the chaos in our heads was just normal. We talk about the reality gap that painful space between the life you have and the life you think you should have and the concept of living a values based life instead of a goal obsessed one. And yes, we talk about sobriety. Because it turns out Billy also stopped drinking around three years ago. What started as a hungover morning on his late dad's birthday turned into one of the most clarifying decisions of his life. We share what those first months really felt like, why the people who gave us the most grief about not drinking were often the ones who needed to look at their own relationship with alcohol, and how removing it changed everything sleep, clarity, creativity, and that ability to find joy in the smallest things again. We also get into careers, AI, the rising cost of university education, why most people end up working in something completely different to what they studied, and whether college is even necessary anymore in a world where you can learn almost anything from YouTube. We talk about tiny experiments the idea that you don't have to commit to the whole thing, you just have to take the smallest possible version of the step. Billy made 40 strangers press publish on their first ever article at a writing workshop. Not because it was perfect. Just to prove they could. There's something in this conversation for anyone who has ever felt like they're fumbling their way through life without a clear destination. Because maybe that's not a problem to fix. Maybe that's just what being human actually looks like. Connect with Billy 📖 Order Fumbling Forward: https://www.fumblingbook.com/ 🌐 Billy's website/socials: @fumblingbook (everywhere) @billyfrazr (personal) Connect with Jasmine 📸 Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifebizandallthatjazz [https://www.instagram.com/lifebizandallthatjazz] 📸 Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasminelisciottoofficial [https://www.instagram.com/jasminelisciottoofficial] 🎵 Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lifebizandallthatjazz [https://www.tiktok.com/@lifebizandallthatjazz] 🎵 Personal TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jasminelisciottoofficial [https://www.tiktok.com/@jasminelisciottoofficial] ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JasmineLisciotto [https://www.youtube.com/@JasmineLisciotto] Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a comment, and share it with someone who needs to hear it. You are not fumbling, you are becoming. Progress, not perfection. You are not broken, you are becoming.
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