A Pre-Fourth of July Pastrami Primer with Adam Chandler of The Wall Street Journal

A Pre-Fourth of July Pastrami Primer with Adam Chandler of The Wall Street Journal

If you like creative sandwich names, dueling regional pastrami styles, and glizzy banter, you’ll love this week’s episode with one very special guest. Liz and Jeffrey gear up for the Fourth of July with New York-based journalist and proud Texan, Adam Chandler, author and food columnist at The Wall Street Journal. No better expert could be better equipped to join our hosts as they answer listeners’ burning questions about Texas- versus New York-style pastrami, the Jewish history of the hot dog, and whether the tradition of sandwiches named after celebrities is alive and thriving, or ready to retire.  Exploring food trends at the intersection of business and culture, Adam is the author of Drive-Thru Dreams: A Journey into the Heart of America’s Fast-Food Kingdom, as well as 99% Perspiration: A New Working History of the American Way of Life. Order your copies of Adam’s books on his website, www.adamchandler.com [http://www.adamchandler.com], and read his musings on fast food, American life, and more on his Substack, The Crunchwrap.  Show Notes: The Great Nosh, [https://thegreatnosh.com/] the ultimate Jew-ish summer picnic Ten Restaurants That Changed America by Paul Freedman [https://www.kitchenartsandletters.com/products/ten-restaurants-that-changed-america-p?srsltid=AfmBOooypQQpWtxLqLMdiBhTh0QnxFk5WkR078NQoSxgbrMDV5lrBwoM] “The Time Rahm Emanuel Sliced Off his Finger at Arby’s” [https://www.eater.com/2010/3/22/6739591/the-time-rahm-emanuel-sliced-off-his-finger-at-arbys] from Eater The history of Schlotzky’s, [https://www.mashed.com/975825/untold-truth-of-schlotzskys/]the Texas deli chain Adam referenced  How Nathan’s Famous developed the kosher-style category, starting with hot dogs [https://www.jta.org/2023/09/26/ny/a-jewish-owned-hot-dog-empire-began-on-this-coney-island-street-corner] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Pasha Toub. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking? Submit your questions at tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [http://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline] or email podcast@gefilteria.com [podcast@gefilteria.com]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required.

Diasporic Foodways, Pickle Trends, and "Unusual" Family Traditions with Author Michael W. Twitty

Most Americans underestimate how much industry and tradition shape our Jewish and Southern food. This week, Liz and Jeffrey sit down with Michael W. Twitty, the renowned culinary historian and James Beard Award–winning author of The Cooking Gene and Koshersoul. The three dive into how industrialization transformed kosher foods from trusted community staples into mass-produced, low-quality products, and how that shift may be behind the decline of once-great Jewish delis. They also explore ways in which certain traditions are kept alive, the best foods for pickling, and so much more. A prolific writer and food justice advocate, his unique perspective on Black, Jewish, and Southern culinary crossovers adds a special flair to this lively discussion, especially during Pride and Juneteenth month. Learn more about Michael and purchase his all of books, including Koshersoul, here: https://michaelwtwitty.com/ [https://michaelwtwitty.com/] Show notes: Pre-order Queer Soup Night: The Cookbook: https://combospress.com/products/queer-soup-night-the-cookbook [https://combospress.com/products/queer-soup-night-the-cookbook] Information on the women-led Kosher Meat Riot of 1910: https://www.thejewishnews.com/community/the-jewish-women-behind-the-detroit-kosher-meat-riot-of-1910/article_47223202-21a0-11ef-b468-9749a64402cb.html [https://www.thejewishnews.com/community/the-jewish-women-behind-the-detroit-kosher-meat-riot-of-1910/article_47223202-21a0-11ef-b468-9749a64402cb.html] An illuminating article Michael wrote about Juneteenth for Atlas Obscura: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-of-juneteenth-food [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-of-juneteenth-food] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline] or email podcast@gefilteria.com [podcast@gefilteria.com]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia]

"What About P'tcha?" with Liz and Jeffrey

The one where Liz and Jeffrey answer the age-old question, "What about p'tcha?" This week, Liz and Jeffrey defend some of their hottest food takes, try an extra crunchy peanut snack, and explore the rich tradition of the gelatinous delicacy known as p'tcha, or gala. Show notes: The adult Jewish summer camp Liz mentioned (Trybal Gatherings): https://www.trybalgatherings.com [https://www.trybalgatherings.com/events] P'tcha recipe from friend-of-the-podcast, Darra Goldstein: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org/recipes/ptcha-calves-foot-aspic [https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org/recipes/ptcha-calves-foot-aspic] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline] or email podcast@gefilteria.com [podcast@gefilteria.com]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia] Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame]... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblFXWDlET3ZYNHE5dkdoS1cwTzZFNG5oS3NzQXxBQ3Jtc0tubFV0dDQxaWV6RzZBWW1nRmVQVFg3RFdCLU5RSUZmaHBpMzc0VUcxUFFBemVUbkpnNzIwV0YwbHBreTN6emhkVkgxNmF3UFFSUmRXb2xxaDgtQWcyZkdTc1lpUm1KN2lib0RRc3hrd29NdUJPQkdCTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fheebmedia.com%2Fpages%2Fbecomeamember&v=aY9OvkUm1Mw]

Gut Prep Before the Holiday with Shannon Sarna of The Nosher

Our favorite Jewish cooking experts are joined this week by cookbook author Shannon Sarna. Shannon has written several cookbooks about Jewish food, including Modern Jewish Baker: Challah, Babka, Bagels & More and Modern Jewish Comfort Food: 100 Fresh Recipes for Classic Dishes from Kugel to Kreplach. Shannon was also Founding Editor of The Nosher, the popular website dedicated to Jewish food. Listen in as the trio talks about matzo balls as big as a baby's head, getting kicked out of delis, and their favorite delis from outside of major Jewish food centers. Liz brings pickle-flavored sour straws and matzo granola for the group to share, and the reactions are... mixed. Show Notes: Deli recommendations from around the country: Zingerman’s Deli in Ann Arbor, Michigan: https://www.zingermansdeli.com/ [https://www.zingermansdeli.com/] Kenny & Ziggy’s in Houston, Texas: https://www.kennyandziggys.com/ [https://www.kennyandziggys.com/] Larder in Cleveland, Ohio: https://larderdb.com/ [https://larderdb.com/] Goldie’s Bagels in Columbia, Missouri: https://www.ordergoldies.com/ [https://www.ordergoldies.com/] Liz's Farmer's Cheese recipe for Shavuot: https://www.gefilteria.com/farmers-cheese [https://www.gefilteria.com/farmers-cheese] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia] Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame]... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblFXWDlET3ZYNHE5dkdoS1cwTzZFNG5oS3NzQXxBQ3Jtc0tubFV0dDQxaWV6RzZBWW1nRmVQVFg3RFdCLU5RSUZmaHBpMzc0VUcxUFFBemVUbkpnNzIwV0YwbHBreTN6emhkVkgxNmF3UFFSUmRXb2xxaDgtQWcyZkdTc1lpUm1KN2lib0RRc3hrd29NdUJPQkdCTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fheebmedia.com%2Fpages%2Fbecomeamember&v=aY9OvkUm1Mw]

Corned Moose Recipe from the Great Yukon Beyond with Liz and Jeffrey

In this extra-special solo episode, Jeffrey regales us with tales from his adventures at Bagel Fest West. Liz discovers the tiniest pink Himalayan salt packet ever to exist. The two unpack the makings of a great mock chopped liver, along with the reason why chefs decide to write a cookbook. And Jeffrey uncovers a corned moose recipe from a fan residing in the Great White North. Show Notes: Liz's Mock Chopped Liver Recipe: https://www.gefilteria.com/mushroom-mockchop [https://www.gefilteria.com/mushroom-mockchop] Jon's Corned Moose Recipe: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLqzYKSkd5ygCZ_qr7kWoqtlVA25zEZq/view?usp=sharing [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLqzYKSkd5ygCZ_qr7kWoqtlVA25zEZq/view?usp=sharing] New York Times article about private equity-backed bagel shops: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/dining/private-equity-bagel-business.html [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/dining/private-equity-bagel-business.html] More information about BagelFest: https://www.bagelfest.com/ [https://www.bagelfest.com/] LA Delis Jeffrey enjoyed during his trip for Bagel Fest West: Langer’s Deli: https://www.langersdeli.com/ [https://www.langersdeli.com/] The Nosh of Beverly Hills: https://www.thenosh.com/ [https://www.thenosh.com/] Factor’s Famous Deli: https://www.factorsdeli.com/ [https://www.factorsdeli.com/] Canter’s Deli: https://cantersdeli.com/ [https://cantersdeli.com/] Belle’s Bagels: https://www.bellesbagels.com/ [https://www.bellesbagels.com/] This episode is dedicated to Jim. May his memory always and forever be a blessing. This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital platform for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Catch episode highlights on Heeb Media's YouTube page! Follow: Instagram: @gefilteria Instagram: @heebmedia YouTube: @HeebMedia Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember]